When does the end times begin?

keras · Jul 30, 2018

The Times said:
Extinction Level Event just like Noah's Days.
2 Peter 3 said what Jesus said.

Actually, most people will survive the Lord's Day of wrath.
We Christians are told what to do: Call upon the Name of the Lord and you will be saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21
Also be proactive: Isaiah 26:20-21

BABerean2 · Jul 30, 2018

keras said:
Yes, there is now a convergence of signs for that.
What will happen at the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, as the Lord destroys His enemies, is not the end, but a new beginning!

Yes.
The initial flash from an explosion of the suns surface, Isaiah 30:26a, consists of the full range of wave emissions; from light waves to microwaves. It will be, in fact be a massive Electro-Magnetic Pulse that will strike all the side of the earth facing the sun, without any warning; 8 minutes after the explosion, travelling at the speed of light.
The effects of an EMP are well known, we can replicate then in a small way with ground or satellite based generators, but also by a nuke EMP, that our enemies have and threaten to use to basically destroy our civilization.

So, the end times will begin with the Islamic peoples commencing their attack upon Israel. Psalms 83 They are well prepared with 1000's of rockets and Iran will prepare to fire a salvo of nuke missiles.
This EMP strike, accurately instigated by the Lord, onto armed nukes, will cause them to explode on the launch pad; destroying them and all the surrounding areas: Exactly as Psalms 7:10 says. Jeremiah 49:35-37 confirms it....I shall bring disaster upon Elam, [Iran] in My fierce anger....
And Zephaniah 2:4 gives us the information this will happen at mid-day Middle Eastern time.
Therefore; by looking at a globe map of the world, it can be seen that all of Europe, Africa, India, Western Russia and Eastern America, will be affected. They will all lose electric supply and communications.

But the main mass of ejected superheated hydrogen plasma will take 24 hours to arrive, travelling at 3.5 million mph. That will again strike the Middle East, wiping out all life, Zechariah 1:14-18, except a small number of Christian Jews, who will hide underground. Isaiah 29:4, Romans 9:27
This strike will kill millions, but as the earth rotates and moves along its orbital track and we will see it coming, most will survive by diving for cover, just as Isaiah 2:21 and Revelation 6:15-16, +, says.

So you see all of the above as a natural event, instead of a supernatural event?

Do any supernatural events occur after the above?
If so, what are they, and when do they occur?

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LittleLambofJesus · Jul 30, 2018

keras said:
Actually, most people will survive the Lord's Day of wrath.
We Christians are told what to do: Call upon the Name of the Lord and you will be saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21
Also be proactive: Isaiah 26:20-21

The Lord will always have a remnant.......

Daniel 12:1
`And at that time stand up doth Michael, the great head, who is standing up for the sons of thy people, and there hath been a time of distress, such as hath not been since there hath been a nation till that time,
and at that time do thy people escape, every one, who is found written in Scroll.

Romans 9:27
Isaiah yet cries-out over the Israel "if-ever may be the number of the sons of Israel as the sand of the sea, the Remnant shall be being Saved".

The Times · Jul 30, 2018

keras said:
Actually, most people will survive the Lord's Day of wrath

Isaiah 13:13
Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

When God removes earth from her place, it is speaking of being moved from its habitable Zone. In so much if God didn't hasten his return and call it a day, the Last Day, then no flesh would remain alive. but for the sake of the ELECT he will hasten his return.

Habitable Zone
In astronomy and astrobiology, the circumstellar habitable zone (CHZ), or simply the habitable zone, is the range of orbits around a star within which a planetary surfacecan support liquid water given sufficient atmospheric pressure.[1][2][3][4][5] The bounds of the CHZ are based on Earth's position in the Solar System and the amount of radiant energy it receives from the Sun. Due to the importance of liquid water to Earth's biosphere, the nature of the CHZ and the objects within it may be instrumental in determining the scope and distribution of Earth-like extraterrestrial life and intelligence.

keras said:
Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21
Also be proactive: Isaiah 26:20-21

Joel 2:3
Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes. Before them the land is like the garden of Eden, behind them, a desert waste— nothing escapes them.

Behind them refers to before the Extinction Level Event. Behind refers to after the Extinction Level Event. (Zephaniah 1:2-3)

Isaiah 26:20 are chambers like the Noah's Ark provided by the Angelic hosts to weather the torching of Earth. After they come out of their chambers the earth resembles Joel 2:3, a pitch black barren land covered with a thick greenhouse canopy of clouds and continually raining and quaking. The earth will disclose her dead and the smell of death is everywhere in the atmosphere.

The reeling to and fro like a drunkard of the planet is a misalignment event of planet earth, being pushed out of its habitable zone.

The earth will not recover at this point, it is a case where two stars/suns collide. For example a binary star with its primary star. These stars will revolve around each other until they collide, when they collide they produce the neutron burst, which I have come to believe is the brilliant coming of the Lord, that will erase this reality and to vaporize everything in a nano second, merging our immaterial souls within God's soul repository with our new heavenly bodies.

The colliding of two stars colliding is the time the Seventh Trumpet is sounded by Jesus Christ.

keras · Jul 30, 2018

BABerean2 said:
So you see all of the above as a natural event, instead of a supernatural event?

Do any supernatural events occur after the above?
If so, what are they, and when do they occur?

Yes, this forthcoming CME will be seen as a natural event by secular people, they will continue on in their denial of God and when the Anti-Christ rises to power, they will worship him. Revelation 13:11-17
Noah's flood, the destruction of Sodom, etc, were all natural events, but as we know; the Lord set them up. Look at Deuteronomy 32:22 and 34-43; the Lord will use what He has ready in His storehouse, His Creation- in this case the sun, to fulfil His purposes.

None of the 7 Trumpet and 7 Bowl events are supernatural and even the at the Gog/Magog attack upon the Christian nation of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, the Lord uses natural means to wipe them out.

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 30, 2018

keras said:
Yes, this forthcoming CME will be seen as a natural event by secular people, they will continue on in their denial of God and when the Anti-Christ rises to power, they will worship him. Revelation 13:11-17..............

Thou hast been watching too many end time movies.....

The Times · Jul 30, 2018

The aftermath of Noah's Days resulted in a new world, bound by constraints, age limit of 120 years apllied. The Extinction Level Event of the last day will ushur in the new earth and the new Heaven (singular), with the passing of the old. There will be no constraints and the age limit will be unlimited.

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 30, 2018

The Times said:
The aftermath of Noah's Days resulted in a new world, bound by constraints, age limit of 120 years apllied. The Extinction Level Event of the last day will ushur in the new earth and the new Heaven (singular), with the passing of the old. There will be no constraints and the age limit will be unlimited.

That is what Revelation 22 appears to be saying......

Revelation 22:5
And night not is being there and need not they are having of a lamp and light of sun.
That Lord the God shall be lighting them, and they shall reigning into the Ages of the Ages.

Tutorman · Jul 30, 2018

The Times said:
It was what?

It happaned

keras · Jul 30, 2018

The Times said:
The reeling to and fro like a drunkard of the planet is a misalignment event of planet earth, being pushed out of its habitable zone.
The earth will not recover at this point,

This theory is not correct, as the earth will continue to be a place for human habitation. Psalms 79:69
Isaiah 13:13 tells us that the earths orbit will be changed. Nothing more than that.
I believe this massive strike by a multi billion ton mass from the sun, will just hit us with a glancing blow. Otherwise we would all be burned to death.
So, as the earth moves at 66,000 mph along its track around the sun, a push from this CME pressure wave will speed up our orbit by a few days.

This is confirmed by the time periods as given in Revelation; 1260 days, 42 months, 3 1/2 years. They are all about the final period before Jesus Returns. But they don't correlate in our current 365.24 year.
Therefore the year after the Sixth Seal CME strike, our year will be speeded up to 360 days, making those 3 different times perfectly correct.

keras · Jul 30, 2018

Tutorman said:
It happaned

Not good enough, if you have any proofs of what the prophesies say, having happened, you must provide it.
Otherwise, one liner, misspelled comments are just so much useless dross.

Tutorman · Jul 30, 2018

I just do not believe all the future nonsense.

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 30, 2018

keras said:
Not good enough, if you have any proofs of what the prophesies say, having happened, you must provide it.
Otherwise, one liner, misspelled comments are just so much useless dross.

I have heard that word somewhere.....ah yes, Ezekiel 22 ...........

Ezekiel 22:
17 Then the word of Yahweh came to me: 18 “Son of man! the people of Israel have become dross to Me; all of them are the copper, tin, iron and lead left inside a furnace.
They are but the dross of silver.
19 Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: ‘Because you have all become dross, I will gather you into Jerusalem.

20 As silver, copper, iron, lead and tin are gathered into a furnace to be melted with a fiery blast, so will I gather you in My anger and my wrath and put you inside the city and melt you.
21 I will gather you and I will blow on you with My fiery wrath, and you will be melted inside Her.
22 As silver is melted in a furnace, so you will be melted inside Her, and you will know that I the Lord have poured out my wrath on you.’ ”

What better day to gather the Jews into the "furnace" but on the feast of the Passover:

http://www.bible.ca/pre-destruction70AD-george-holford-1805AD.htm

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover; and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah !

At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival.
How suitable and how kind, then, was the prophetic admonition of our LORD, and how clearly he into futurity when he said "Let not them that are in the countries enter into Jerusalem." Luke xxi. 21.

BABerean2 · Jul 30, 2018

keras said:
So, as the earth moves at 66,000 mph along its track around the sun, a push from this CME pressure wave will speed up our orbit by a few days.

Do you understand that a force pushing us away from the sun would produce a larger orbit and would make our year longer?

The orbital period of Mercury is 88 days, while that of Jupiter is about 12 years.

Do you know that the physics of what you are suggesting can be calculated?

https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/

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keras · Jul 30, 2018

BABerean2 said:
Do you understand that a force pushing us away from the sun would produce a larger orbit and would make our year longer?

I didn't say the CME force would push us away from the sun, but it will strike the edge and push the earth sideways. Not a change of orbital track, but speeding up of it.
I guess that a shift of track would be very dramatic and damaging to the earth, but a simple speeding up would result in hardly any effects.
There is the probability that this has happened before, but a slowing down. Ancient records do say there was a 360 day year, then when Comet Typhon passed closely to the earth, causing havoc, its gravitational effect pulled the earth back, making the year 365.24 days. It took until virtually the modern era to reset our calendar accurately!

BABerean2 said:
Do you know that the physics of what you are suggesting can be calculated?

You can't, because we have no concept of the magnitude of this forthcoming CME. It will be waaay off the scale!

The Times · Jul 30, 2018

Tutorman said:
It happaned

When?

The Times · Jul 30, 2018

keras said:
but a simple speeding up would result in hardly any effects.

One very finite change in speed of the Earth's directional velocity, is like throwing an object onto a head on vehicle travelling at that differential speed. Humanity will be primordial soup.

Earth exhibiting a to and fro motion is the death of the planet and all life rendered dead. Depending on where the minimum gyration is occurring, life may still be permissive albeit not sustaining as sudden changes of inertial movement to the body overtime results in internal bleeding out of every single blood vessel and capillaries in the body.

Least those days be shortened by God that is by Him calling it a day (Last Day), no flesh would remain alive.

jgr · Jul 30, 2018

The Times said:
One very finite change in speed of the Earth's directional velocity, is like throwing an object onto a head on vehicle travelling at that differential speed. Humanity will be primordial soup.

Earth exhibiting a to and fro motion is the death of the planet and all life rendered dead. Depending on where the minimum gyration is occurring, life may still be permissive albeit not sustaining as sudden changes of inertial movement to the body overtime results in internal bleeding out of every single blood vessel and capillaries in the body.

Least those days be shortened by God that is by Him calling it a day (Last Day), no flesh would remain alive.

In Psalms 18, phenomena similar to Isaiah 13 occurred in David's time, but heaven and earth survived. What is different about Isaiah 13? Will heaven and earth be re-subjected to such phenomena again?

keras · Jul 30, 2018

I understand why people prefer to deny the possibility/ probability of a dramatic, world changing event. This 'head in the sand' attitude is of no help when what is plainly prophesied; does happen.
Isaiah 13:9-13 is quite clear, in the context of the Day of the Lord's wrath: the earth will move from its place..... I do not see this as a sudden change, just over the 2-3 days of the CME strike, then it goes on into outer space.

Yet, life will go on and all that is prophesied to take place before Jesus Returns, will happen, then Jesus will reign for 1000 years.

Tutorman · Jul 30, 2018

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When?

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