Unbiblical "Christian" platitudes that Christians need to stop saying

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4. I'm committed to Christ

That's like saying you're committed to never cheat on your spouse. But what that really means is, "Though I want to cheat on you, I won't do it 'cause I'm committed." Commitment isn't even an issue if you love God or your spouse or anyone.

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23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
 
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1. God will use you.

Oh, so we're nothing more than pawns on a chessboard. Slaves are used. Prostitutes are used. Children are not. We're not slaves or prostitutes, we're children of God. Love does not use others.

Ask Joseph if God used his evil brothers. We are slaves, either to satan or God, either to unrighteousness or righteousness, to either sin or to Christ. Once you get over the idol of free will, you're happy to be a slave to Christ, and desire to be a slave to righteouness, and free will becomes miserable.

2. Love your spouse more than God

The only way to love God more than your spouse is to love God through your spouse. Jesus says as much as we do unto others, we do unto him, and vice versa. If you think you need to have private prayer time when your spouse needs help with the kids or something else, that’s not prayer. That’s sin.

I agree in that we should love God more than our spouses, however I disagree with the notion of using a spouse as a medium to love God. Although I do agree that part of loving God can done through loving others if we are loving as the Spirit wills in God pleasing and honoring ways as Christ Himself loves. As for prayer time per above, it's not sin, it's called sacrifice and the door swings both ways in a good healthy relationship.

3. God can't bless you until you get that sin out of your life.

Do you ever drive 5 miles over the speed limit? Is that a sin? Yes it is, you're breaking the law. You sin so many times in one day you don't even realize it.

I agree in that God blesses whomever He wants to bless, but what man considers blessing from God, may turn out to be his own undoing. What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world but looses his soul? We see it happen time and time again, people who gain power, wealth, and fame, only to be ruined by it. Now spiritual blessings from God, the riches of Christ, they are gifts from God for Him to give as He pleases, and since all Christians deal with sins throughout the course of their life, it would be crazy nonsense to think God cannot bless us until we take the initiative, in fact, God blessed us while we were yet sinners, He loved us first, not because of anything in us worth loving, but because of His mercy His pleasure and for His glory. I'll not argue whether breaking a man made law is a sin or not, that's a discussion in and of itself.

4. I'm committed to Christ

That's like saying you're committed to never cheat on your spouse. But what that really means is, "Though I want to cheat on you, I won't do it 'cause I'm committed." Commitment isn't even an issue if you love God or your spouse or anyone.

I think the issue is a bit more complicated. People get married and make commitments in their vows without any intention of ever cheating, they may be married for many years, faithfully committed, until one day long after the honeymoon and feelings are not quite the same, temptation comes at an opportune time. Being committed to Christ, basically means following Him as Lord and master. Many of us have discovered after years of following Him, that Christ is faithful and we are not. Christ is a Covenant keeper, while we are Covenant breakers. It's not as though the intention from the start is to be unfaithful, but the valley's of life, the ways of the world, have a way of dragging the most Godly of Christians down. We are only as committed as Christ is committed to us, and He is faithful, so all glory and boasting is in Christ, not in our performance or lack of.

5. Lord, I want to do whatever pleases you. I want to decrease; you must increase.

Imagine if you married someone who spoke like that. "I want to do whatever you want to do dear. It's not about me, it's all about you." That would be fun for about a week. "I just want to be used by you. I just want others to know how much I am committed to you." Then your heart would break.

Those desires are not natural, they are from God, in ourselves we desire to please ourselves and look out for number one. I am puzzled by what you're arguing against on this point, because we are called to "take up our cross", the greatest example of prayer in Scripture has these words: "Thy will be done". If a Christian does not desire to do whatever pleases God, that should give pause, it should not be consider faith, because without faith it is impossible to please God.

6. God has unfinished business in my life.

What were some of Jesus's last words? "It is finished." As far as he's concerned, there's no past, present, or future. For him, it's already done.

Except the Spirit of God in a believer works through believers to do the will of God and that may be part of a bigger plan which we are not aware of. Think for just a minute about everything that had to happen for you to be saved. Are these variables, causes and effects leading to your salvation without importance or not necessary? Never mind the command to go ye to all nations and baptize... Our lives are unfinished until the appointed time God has decided, which all part of His greatest plan for His creation. Jesus last words have to do with salvation accomplished, but the Scriptures do not end there, neither did the unfolding of salvation of God's people throughout history in time. So far as the knowledge of God in eternity is concerned, everything was finished before anything ever started. So there you go, if you are still breathing, God is not finished with you here on earth.

7. We will be careful to give you all the glory God.

God actually wants to share his glory. Moses' face was shining with glory when he came down from Sinai. Paul says that if we share in Jesus's sufferings, we will share in his glory.

God did not create man to worship man period. Romans chapter 1 makes that abundantly clear. I would be careful about that notion of sharing the Glory of God as though God were our glory tree to shake some glory from to share with others.
 
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Its amazing how much people read into OP that is not there. Its like they read the OP with preconceived notion glasses on or they have some beef to promote. Your point is very well made. That there are phrases that carry implications, and that there is more likely a better way to phrase something other than the typical christianesse way of phrasing somethings.

I wont bother to correct other postings because I know that all that will do is fuel more criticisms. Nice OP.
 
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Religion has sold us a bunch of lies about the love of God. We have been told that God is envious, distrustful, needy, angry, distant, and that He keeps a record of wrongs.

Over all, that's not the message. How many churches have you been to?
I've been to about a dozen denominations.
 
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Romans 5:8
John 3:16-17
Mark 10:35-45
The Scripture - the Word of God is written TO and FOR believers in Covenant with God ONLY.

Read it in this context.

God does not nor does He instruct nor command His holy people to love swine. Not even God cast His Pearl, Jesus Christ, to swine. The original command is in Leviticus 19:18

Leviticus 19:17-18 (KJV)
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Look at the language: brother, neighbor, children of THY people. Even Jesus was Promised to Israel - not the world (Deut. 18:15).

When God settled the Hebrew people after delivering them from the bondage of Egypt He made encampments to surround the Tabernacle. Three tribes to the West, 3 to the North, 3 to the East, and 3 to the South.

A brother was a member of the same tribe.
A neighbor was a member of any of the other eleven tribes.
Children of thy people is a member of ANY TRIBE.

Jesus only re-iterated and taught what was in the Hebrew Scripture and God never commanded Israel to love the heathens that surrounded her. As a matter of fact He commanded Israel to not mingle with the nations (Goyim) nor learn their ways.

Romans was written to the Church (believers) at Rome (Rom. 1:7). All epistles are written TO THE CHURCH...
John and Mark are written to the Hebrews and to Hellenized "Jews: (Hebrews)

Alexander the Great brought Greek culture to Israel and the middle east, west, wherever he conquered.

The religion was Hebrew/Judaic, and the government was Roman.

All three clashed in perfect timing when Jesus was sent.

OK. That's enough.

Are you His princess?

Receive or reject. There is no medium.
 
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Its amazing how much people read into OP that is not there. Its like they read the OP with preconceived notion glasses on or they have some beef to promote. Your point is very well made. That there are phrases that carry implications, and that there is more likely a better way to phrase something other than the typical christianesse way of phrasing somethings.

I wont bother to correct other postings because I know that all that will do is fuel more criticisms. Nice OP.
It's not a useful post.

Isaiah 42:8 says

I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols. (esv)

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. (Kjv)

According to that verse, does God want to share his glory?

Is it really helpful to suggest we shouldn't want the Lord to increase while we decrease? John the Baptist wished it.

I personally have never been taught by anyone that I should love my wife more than God. I've been in church my whole life.

Those few things alone are problematic. And the things said in following posts are cause for concern also.
 
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It's not a useful post.

Isaiah 42:8 says

I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols. (esv)

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. (Kjv)

According to that verse, does God want to share his glory?

Is it really helpful to suggest we shouldn't want the Lord to increase while we decrease? John the Baptist wished it.

I personally have never been taught by anyone that I should love my wife more than God. I've been in church my whole life.

Those few things alone are problematic. And the things said in following posts are cause for concern also.

It is to me.
 
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6. God has unfinished business in my life.

Philippians 1:6: And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.
 
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So your god, having the ability just stands by and watches, rape, murder and all sorts of atrocities and does not care to stop it.
Do you wish God would send swift judgment on all sins? Use the ten commandments as your standard for a moment. Or the sermon on the mount. Or the list at the end of Romans chapter 1.

Those are emotional strings you're trying to pull. But all sin is an offense to God. Has God ever stood back and allowed you to sin?
 
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4. I'm committed to Christ

That's like saying you're committed to never cheat on your spouse. But what that really means is, "Though I want to cheat on you, I won't do it 'cause I'm committed." Commitment isn't even an issue if you love God or your spouse or anyone.


Marriage vows contain commitments to all the opposites that exist in life, sickness and health, for richer and poorer.
Honestly, the fun parts are easy enough in marriage, but there are times when marriage is a cross too. It takes commitment to honor your vows during those times when things aren't going so good, when your suave husband is a slob, when that sweet little angel sharpens up her tongue and drills it incessantly into your brain.
It takes commitment to smile and say yes dear in the bad parts. Unfortunately, life doesn't come with a fast forward.

Christ defines the cross too. If there are not times when you really, really, really do not want to be there with him, every chance is that you are not there with him in the first place.
For sure there were times when the yoke is light, people leaving all their commitments behind and following him, letting the dead bury their dead as it were.

But man, it takes some kind of imagination to understand how that cross weighing you down is anything but crushingly heavy.

There is a lot of work involved in becoming a spiritual being. A lot of the path involves becoming a beast of burden. Those who freely follow can freely leave, and it takes commitment to carry on with that load.
 
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1. God will use you.

Nothing wrong with that. I spend eight hours a day being used by a heathen at my job. It would be nice think that life has some kind of godly purpose.

2. Love your spouse more than God

That's one of life's unexpected ironies. Married couples often put their children first, ahead of each other, and the children suffer for it. They often put each other first, ahead of God, and the spouse suffers for it. Unless the priorities are right, everything on that list suffers. Giving something a higher priority doesn't always help that item.

3. God can't bless you until you get that sin out of your life.

It would probably be more correct to say that God won't bless you until you get that sin out of your life. It's not a requirement for perfection. It's just a statement that you don't get to rebel against God and have his blessings, too.

4. I'm committed to Christ

...Commitment isn't even an issue if you love God or your spouse or anyone.

Commitment is always an issue. A tree does not need to be strong if the wind never blows, but the wind is going to blow, so it had better be strong. You wouldn't want to have to live your life with the hope of extreme luck that temptation never comes your way, because you or your spouse have no commitment to resist it.

5. Lord, I want to do whatever pleases you. I want to decrease; you must increase.

Imagine if you married someone who spoke like that.

My wife talks like that a lot. She's a joy to live with.

6. God has unfinished business in my life.

What were some of Jesus's last words? "It is finished."

Jesus was finished. You're not.

7. We will be careful to give you all the glory God.

If God did it, then let God get the credit. We've certainly had our fill of self-aggrandizing miracle workers.

Religion has sold us a bunch of lies about the love of God.

I think you're in the business of selling us a few more.
 
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Do you wish God would send swift judgment on all sins?
He could just erase sin from existence. And yes, I'd rather be a robot-like being, without free will, living in paradise than a miserable being, with free will, living in a fallen world.
 
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He could just erase sin from existence. And yes, I'd rather be a robot-like being, without free will, living in paradise than a miserable being, with free will, living in a fallen world.

That makes no sense. First, because if you were a robot, you couldn't enjoy it.

And second, it makes no sense to wish for a state of not being able to wish for things.
 
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Romans 6:15-18

15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
 
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That makes no sense. First, because if you were a robot, you couldn't enjoy it.
How so? An omnipotent God could certainly separate the existence of will from the ability to experience enjoyment.

And second, it makes no sense to wish for a state of not being able to wish for things.
I'm not following. I'm currently able to wish for things. Therefore I wish that I wouldn't be able to wish for things in exchange for living eternally in a Paradise-like world instead of a fallen one.
 
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Do you wish God would send swift judgment on all sins? Use the ten commandments as your standard for a moment. Or the sermon on the mount. Or the list at the end of Romans chapter 1.

Those are emotional strings you're trying to pull. But all sin is an offense to God. Has God ever stood back and allowed you to sin?

No, I am stating facts. If your god is all sovereign and he stands by and allows such great evil that makes him no better than the devil. It is no different in society where is a crime is being commit, like rape or murder and you are more than able to stop and do nothing, that person would be looked up as evil.
 
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Say what you will. You may agree with me, you may not. But these are things that Christians need to stop saying.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion.

It doesn't matter whether it's your heart or not, to put people down with these words. It doesn't matter how genuine you are. It doesn't matter how you are wanting it to come across. What matters is how the other person receives it.

Was this the rule of thumb Jesus followed when he called the Pharisees "white-washed tombs full of dead men's bones," or "brood of vipers," or "sons of hell," or "hypocrites"? How about when Jesus says that he came not to bring peace but a sword and that his truth would divide families and bring people into conflict with each other? (Matthew 10:34-36) Was the reception of his listeners his prime interest when he said these things? It doesn't look like it to me. What about Paul's remarks to the Corinthian church where he castigated them for allowing sin in their midst (1 Corinthians 5)? He even judged the sinning member of their church and cast him out. Was he guided in his words only or primarily by how his audience would receive them? It doesn't seem so to me...

1. God will use you.

Oh, so we're nothing more than pawns on a chessboard. Slaves are used. Prostitutes are used. Children are not. We're not slaves or prostitutes, we're children of God. Love does not use others.

2 Timothy 2:21
21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.


Romans 1:1
1 Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God


Colossians 1:7
7 as you also learned from Epaphras, our dear fellow servant, who is a faithful minister of Christ on your behalf,


James 1:1
1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings.


2 Peter 1:1
1 Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:


Jude 1:1
1 Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ:


Matthew 4:10
10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.' "


John 12:26
26 If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor.


2. Love your spouse more than God

The only way to love God more than your spouse is to love God through your spouse. Jesus says as much as we do unto others, we do unto him, and vice versa. If you think you need to have private prayer time when your spouse needs help with the kids or something else, that’s not prayer. That’s sin.

Certainly, a man ought not to neglect his wife and children and/or try to spiritualize doing so. But I have seen many instances where a man has set aside a regular time each day to meet with God, a time that doesn't intrude significantly upon his responsibilities to his family, but which is often interrupted by wife and kids. I think it is entirely right that a man in this situation should put his foot down and insist that he be left undisturbed in his private time with God. A man who allows such a vital time to be dismantled by his family does so ultimately to their detriment.

Matthew 6:33
33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness...


3. God can't bless you until you get that sin out of your life.

Do you ever drive 5 miles over the speed limit? Is that a sin? Yes it is, you're breaking the law. You sin so many times in one day you don't even realize it.

Isaiah 59:2
2 But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear.


4. I'm committed to Christ

That's like saying you're committed to never cheat on your spouse. But what that really means is, "Though I want to cheat on you, I won't do it 'cause I'm committed." Commitment isn't even an issue if you love God or your spouse or anyone.

This is one big non sequitur. It does not follow that because a person claims a commitment to Christ that they are necessarily implying a desire to otherwise. That may be they way you think about commitment but how you think is not necessarily how everyone else thinks.

It is evident, it seems to me, that love engenders commitment so that when a person says "I am committed to Christ," what they are saying is that they love him. This is certainly true in my case.

5. Lord, I want to do whatever pleases you. I want to decrease; you must increase.

Imagine if you married someone who spoke like that. "I want to do whatever you want to do dear. It's not about me, it's all about you." That would be fun for about a week. "I just want to be used by you. I just want others to know how much I am committed to you." Then your heart would break.

But God is not a human and He's not your spouse. He created you. And He sustains your existence moment-by-moment. Your relationship to your Creator, then, is not perfectly parallel to the one you may have with your spouse. In some very important ways it differs widely. And so, it is appropriate - necessary, even - to take the lower place before your God, to pursue His will and way above and before your own. It is what you were made to do.

Philippians 1:21
21 For to me, to live is Christ...


James 4:6-7, 10
6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: "God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble."
7 Therefore submit to God...

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.


Romans 12:1
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.


1 Peter 5:6
6 Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time,


Matthew 16:24-25
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.


6. God has unfinished business in my life.

What were some of Jesus's last words? "It is finished." As far as he's concerned, there's no past, present, or future. For him, it's already done.

Ephesians 4:15
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head--Christ--

1 Peter 2:2
2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,

2 Peter 3:18
18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...


A person who says God is not finished with them is obviously speaking from their perspective, not God's. And from our perspective, it is true that every believer always has more growing to do in their knowledge and experience of their Maker.

7. We will be careful to give you all the glory God.

God actually wants to share his glory. Moses' face was shining with glory when he came down from Sinai. Paul says that if we share in Jesus's sufferings, we will share in his glory.

1 Corinthians 1:27-31
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.
30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God--and righteousness and sanctification and redemption--
31 that, as it is written, "He who glories, let him glory in the Lord."


1 Corinthians 10:31
31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.


1 Peter 4:11
11 If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.


Description is not prescription. What happened to Moses on Mount Sinai was unique to him. No where does Scripture suggest that we ought to expect our faces to shine with God's glory as Moses' face once did.

In what way will we share in God's glory? He is the Creator of the Universe. Will we share in his glory as Creator? No. He was the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Will we share in his glory as our Saviour? No. He is the eternal, infinite, necessarily-existent Ground of All Reality. Will we as finite and contingent beings share in his glory as the Source of Everything? No. So, in what way, then, will we share in God's glory? And what does it mean to share in His glory?
 
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