Christian Nudists

Darkhorse said:

Usually, Coppertone or other quality name-brands, with an SPF of 50 or so.

Generic sunscreen has sometimes proven disappointing, as has expired sunscreen. Check the expiration date.

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listed said:

Interesting read.

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listed said:

Interesting read.

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DennisTate said:

What he says about the fulfillment of the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel regarding the Era of Moshiach / Millennium are profoundly encouraging.....

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Dave-W said:

Genesis 1 and 2.

After that, the bible sees a certain shame in being naked. That seems to be a result of the fall (Gen 3)

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Superhero Sam said:

Isaiah was naked. exception to rule?

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Dave-W said:

No. It was to symbolize the shame of the entire nation.

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Superhero Sam said:

safe to say he was in a shameful state. meaning otherwise nudity would be sin then.

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dayhiker said:

The shame for Israel was that they couldn't protect their women from being raped. From being marched off naked and being sold as slaves, probably even sex slaves. This is my understanding of the shame the prophets are talking about.

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Dave-W said:

No Sam. Shame and sin are not the same thing.

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Superhero Sam said:

So Bonehoffer executed naked was in a shameful state, even tho it was forced

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Dave-W said:

Yes. But no sin

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We still live in a fallen world, surrounded by lust, immorality, and perversion. The innocence of Eden is gone. Naturist philosophy ignores the results of the fall. Even in “asexual” contexts, public displays of nudity dishonor God by pretending an innocence that no longer exists.

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Dave-W said:

Not with your doctor?

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SinnerInTheHands said:

"Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame." [Revelation 16:15]

"Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings." [Genesis 3:7]

"Then Noah began farming and planted a vineyard. He drank of the wine and became drunk, and uncovered himself inside his tent. Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it upon both their shoulders and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were turned away, so that they did not see their father’s nakedness. When Noah awoke from his wine, he knew what his youngest son had done to him. So he said, 'Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants he shall be to his brothers.'" [Genesis 9:20-25]

"And you shall not go up by steps to My altar, so that your nakedness will not be exposed on it." [Exodus 20:26]

"Your nakedness will be uncovered, Your shame also will be exposed." [Isaiah 47:3]

"Therefore, O harlot, hear the word of the Lord. Thus says the Lord God, 'Because your lewdness was poured out and your nakedness uncovered through your harlotries with your lovers and with all your detestable idols, and because of the blood of your sons which you gave to idols, therefore, behold, I will gather all your lovers with whom you took pleasure, even all those whom you loved and all those whom you hated. So I will gather them against you from every direction and expose your nakedness to them that they may see all your nakedness.'" [Ezekiel 16:35-40]

"And when He came out onto the land, He was met by a man from the city who was possessed with demons; and who had not put on any clothing for a long time, and was not living in a house, but in the tombs." [Luke 8:27]

"Because you say, 'I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,' and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked." [Revelation 3:17]
You can't use "Judge not, lest ye be judged" to try and excuse your own sinfulness.

"For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves." [1 Corinthians 15:12-13
Yep, that's exactly why I said "I'm not calling for violence. I'm saying Calvin and Knox would most likely have gotten pretty angry." in post #220 [found here].

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dayhiker said:

From my reason of the prophets nudity in that time period was because army after army marched thru Israel. Either Egypt marching north to Assyria and later Babylon or Assyria or Babylon marching south to attach Egypt. Dan. 10 or 11 has a pretty good summery of that history in the form of a prophesy. Now when one of these armies marched thru a country they didn't stop at the local dinner and by a meal! Or the local brothel and pay a prostitute. They broke the front door down of every home and took all their food and raped the women why they were stopping by. If they wanted to raise some money, they took women and boys to sell as slaves. It wasn't a pretty sight. So to limit the damage towns welcomed the invading armies and had their doors all unlocked and welcomed the invading army as liberators. Yet these armies still weren't that nice! The shame for Israel was that they couldn't protect their women from being raped. From being marched off naked and being sold as slaves, probably even sex slaves. This is my understanding of the shame the prophets are talking about. The first calling of honorable men back they was to protect their family and they failed ever few years. Israel couldn't not stand up in any way to these big armies from the north or south.
So the shame of being nude that they prophets are talking about has no similarity to being topless at the beach. Being nude at a clothes optional party in no way compares in my mind to what shame men are feeling from having their women stolen, raped and marched off nude to the slave market.

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Superhero Sam said:

there is sin to nudity.

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Dave-W said:

All of your arguments are based on this statement.

Can you give chapter and verse, to prove this belief?

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Dave-W said:

Sam, ya gotta stop believing everything you read on the internet. Do some study for yourself.

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