Do Their Friends Matter?

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Suppose you meet someone, go on a few dates, and get along well. Then you meet their friends, and find them to be lacking, for want of a better description. Your prospective significant other seems fine, but you find their closest friends to be conceited, immature, or what have you.

How much will that influence your interest in a relationship with a person?
 

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Suppose you meet someone, go on a few dates, and get along well. Then you meet their friends, and find them to be lacking, for want of a better description. Your prospective significant other seems fine, but you find their closest friends to be conceited, immature, or what have you.

How much will that influence your interest in a relationship with a person?
I would pray to God to help me see the truth of his character.
 
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Suppose you meet someone, go on a few dates, and get along well. Then you meet their friends, and find them to be lacking, for want of a better description. Your prospective significant other seems fine, but you find their closest friends to be conceited, immature, or what have you.

How much will that influence your interest in a relationship with a person?

I wouldn't judge anybody. I would just want to hear the back story of how they all became friends. I think if you're looking down on that person's friends, you probably shouldn't be dating that person. Sometimes peoples' friends are the only family they have.
 
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I've seen where birds of a feather flock together and so forth, but I've also seen cases in which it would be a grave error to assume a person is like their friends. I have been thinking over this question, and I think what I'd like to see is that the person is consistent.

If she plays at being a woman of upstanding character, but then acts like her friends who aren't of upstanding character because she's around them, that's a red flag. If she maintains her character regardless of who she's around, that's a good sign.

I don't think people act perfectly consistent in every aspect of their lives, from what I've seen. My sense of humor isn't sinful (99.99...% of the time), but it does lean toward more adult aspects of life. It makes sense to censor that around my 2-year old niece, and my dad, who is very straight-laced. It's not that they're ignorant of my humor--okay, maybe my niece is--but my dad at least doesn't appreciate it.

Consequently, I expect some variation in a person, but if they lie to one group to cover their actions with another, or show any kind of truly two-faced behavior, that's going to pluck my feathers. It's not so much their friends who are important, but who they are when they're with their friends, and without them.
 
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Let's not be quick to judge. There are times you can't always find ideal friends.

If you're living in a poor neighborhood, or the dangerous part of the city or "gangland", you'll only have few choices. You'd be lucky to find a friend who isn't in a gang. You wouldn't care if he's a slob or gets drunk every Friday.

And in dangerous places or in unfairly disadvantaged position (like when I worked in the Middle East where Christians are a minority), you need to have as much friends as possible as part of your "survival strategy". You don't have the luxury of being choosy.

Ideally, I would only have carefully selected 2 or 3 close friends with good moral principles when my life used to be nice and safe and dandy. But I don't have that life anymore.

Right now, I have friends who are fornicators, gays, drunkards, and thieves and I'm not even any of those. I'm the odd man out! Simply got no choice!
 
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Hmmm.... that is an interesting and complex question. After all, her friends don't need to be your friends and vice versa but at the end of the day you need to trust her when she is with her friends. I have friends that my family etc don't necessarily like for a variety of reasons so they would prefer not to be around them but that doesn't mean that they think I would change behaviour or act inappropriately in their company.

At the end of the day, only you can decide how important a partners friendships are. And I really believe it is about trust. As a single person, I get to meet the partners of my friends. I don't like all of them. Some I do, some I don't. It really isn't important to me as I am a friend of one and it is only a bonus if I like their husband/partner. On the flip side, even if we don't get along, they still trust their wife/girlfriend/partner in my company.

I am not sure if this helps, but I do hope find a resolution.
 
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It will make me take a step back and observe a bit more. These are his closest friends for some reason. We don't tend to spend large amounts of time with people who are very different than we are.

Agreed. And even if that person isn't "like" their friends. If their friends are not good people in my opinion (as your question assumes), I would have to consider why she considers them closest friends.

And even if that person isn't like her closest friends, We tend to turn into the people we spend the most time with. It is very important to surround ourselves with people who will have positive influence for that reason. So I would have to consider the effect her closest friends will have on changing her from the person I know and love/respect
 
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Agreed. And even if that person isn't "like" their friends. If their friends are not good people in my opinion (as your question assumes), I would have to consider why she considers them closest friends.

And even if that person isn't like her closest friends, We tend to turn into the people we spend the most time with. It is very important to surround ourselves with people who will have positive influence for that reason. So I would have to consider the effect her closest friends will have on changing her from the person I know and love/respect

I would wonder more if I am getting the fascade and not the real face of this person. That could become a real issue if that fascade stays up until after you get married.
 
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I would wonder more if I am getting the fascade and not the real face of this person. That could become a real issue if that fascade stays up until after you get married.

Definitely.
My concerns would be in this order

First, am I getting a facade?

Second, does she feel that the lifestyle/behavior/attitude/whatever of her friends is acceptable for them and just not her?

and if I come to the conclusion that I am not (or determine it is not possible to conclude):

Third, do I think she has a strength of character that can resist negative influence of them.

I say this because I have friends who are not Christian. But they know me and I am pretty blunt about what I consider to be acceptable behavior. So while they might have crude sense of humor, language, etc. I don't, they know I don't, and they know that I won't.
What they do is their business, but I don't tolerate it, get entertainment from it, etc.
I don't take pleasure in their sin, I guess you could say. Of course I don't know if you would call us "close friends" either. so... my point might be moot.
 
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