Are dragons basically Satan?

faroukfarouk · Aug 24, 2017

Mskriskris said:
Aren't those holidays with pagan roots popularized by the Catholic Church?

The Incarnation (John 1.14) is a great, Scriptural doctrine, anyway; you certainly don't have to be R. Catholic in order to appreciate it.

toberebornn · Aug 24, 2017

I would say: no. Don't risk it. While fictionalized dragons can be cool, it's best not to expose your children to that. I would also reccomend staying away from snakes and goats.

I was a horse/unicorn kid. Maybe try exposing them to that?

Instrument150 · Aug 24, 2017

hengesthorsa said:
Dragons are not Satan. They are fantasy creatures like unicorns. They're used in fiction, myth, and legend in various ways.

They are also used in the bible. Good night

actionsub · Aug 24, 2017

Quid est Veritas? said:
Good point. The Bronze Serpent is a prefiguration of Christ, and Jesus told us to be as wise as Serpents. So the Snake can also be interpreted as a Christian symbol if you wish.

The medical profession has used the bronze snake lifted up on a pole as a symbol of the healing arts for centuries.

Bible Highlighter · Aug 24, 2017

I do not think God would compare our adversary to a fictional creature. God is not the author of confusion. There is nothing more satan would like to do than to get you to believe in the fact that he was fictional himself. Believing that he is compared to a fictional creature is just one step in that direction. People need to realize that the Bible refers to dragons as a real animal.

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RaymondG · Aug 24, 2017

Instrument150 said:
It boggles my mind to even try to consider what the purpose is of such a thing.

It to show us what happens when anger festers inside us and we then let it explode. When we learn this lesson, this insect will go extinct.

parousia70 · Aug 24, 2017

Amazing Horse said:
Might aswell hang all around your house pentagrams and goat heads where you are at it , because they are just symbols not Satan .

Got any photographs of deceased relatives?
I have one hanging on my wall of my grandmother with me as an infant on her lap.

Should I get rid of that picture since having it on my wall is pretty much that same as fashioning and worshiping a graven image, right? (Leviticus 26:1)

parousia70 · Aug 24, 2017

toberebornn said:
I would say: no. Don't risk it. While fictionalized dragons can be cool, it's best not to expose your children to that. I would also reccomend staying away from snakes and goats.

So don't take your kids to the petting zoo if they have goats?

Quid est Veritas? · Aug 24, 2017

actionsub said:
The medical profession has used the bronze snake lifted up on a pole as a symbol of the healing arts for centuries.

Actually, that is the Rod of Asclepius. It was the symbol of the ancient cult of this god of healing, which was related to snakes. The Hipoocratic Oath starts: "By Apollo the Healer and Asclepius..."

It may be derived from the treatment of the parasitic worm Dracunculus Medenensis, which entailed dragging it out of the subcutaneous tissue by means of a stick. Alternately, it may have simply been derived from Asclepius' association with snakes, who were present in his sanctuaries and said to aid in healing.

Regardless, this medical symbol is derived from the Greco-Roman medical tradition and is of pagan origin. It predates the Christianisation of the Empire, and likely was strengthened and survived due to the erroneous connection to the Biblical Brazen Serpent Nehusthan.

Incidentally, especcially in the US, some medical organisations use a double snake over a staff with wings. This is the Caduceus, and is a symbol of Hermes. This is actually a symbol of Merchants and was mistakenly applied to the US army medical corps in 1902 by an uneducated top brass officer, to the chagrin and embarrassment of many, subsequently spreading to civilian usage. It is profoundly inappropriate, as Hermes was related to making money and was a psychopomp, taking the dead to Hades.

Bible Highlighter · Aug 24, 2017

parousia70 said:
So don't take your kids to the petting zoo if they have goats?

Yeah, I do not see any problems of a person owning goats or in their pictorial display of goats if they like this animal. However, if they copied satanists by putting a white goat head everywhere and had pentagrams put up, then that would be a problem in my book.

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Amazing Horse · Aug 24, 2017

parousia70 said:
Got any photographs of deceased relatives?
I have one hanging on my wall of my grandmother with me as an infant on her lap.

Should I get rid of that picture since having it on my wall is pretty much that same as fashioning and worshiping a graven image, right? (Leviticus 26:1)

If you wanted to be perfect then yes , however as long as you don't pray to it or it does not remind you of bad things then keep it .

My mom for example has hears from 1st haircut of her daughter hanging as diploma wrapped with plasting thing i don't know how to call it , but it's preserved from air i believe . And it's hanging on wall like some pagan practice but whatever i asked if she could remove it and explain to her but she don't want to , so i'm not gonna beat her up for that just answering the question.

Anyway anything we do is like garbage in God's eyes , we shall live by faith in Christ , we can't save ourselfes anyways .

Instrument150 · Aug 24, 2017

RaymondG said:
It to show us what happens when anger festers inside us and we then let it explode. When we learn this lesson, this insect will go extinct.

Are you trying to be funny or do you really mean that? No argument here btw, i think it's a brilliant theory.

toberebornn · Aug 24, 2017

parousia70 said:
So don't take your kids to the petting zoo if they have goats?

Pffft no, that's not what I meant lol. I mean cartoons with goats and stuff in them. (I looove goats so much, they're the cutest farm animals imonext to chickens and cows). I just reccomend not to. If I had kids I would be careful and stuff. For example; the cartoon Mr. Pickles seems like a cute show at first glance, but its actually an Adult Swim show. Wew. I made the mistake of watching that one night when I stayed up late.

RaymondG · Aug 24, 2017

Instrument150 said:
Are you trying to be funny or do you really mean that? No argument here btw, i think it's a brilliant theory.

I believe what I said. Everything outside started from a thought/word inside. The greatest demonstration, I believe, was in Genesis.

MonstersvsMartyrs · Aug 24, 2017

Unicorns are also used symbolically in the Bible, sometimes as a symbol of good and sometimes as a symbol of evil.

MonstersvsMartyrs · Aug 24, 2017

RaymondG said:
Why start a discussion about this? Why are others opinions necessary? If you have a funny feeling about a few dragons in the house....remove them.
I have funny feelings about mice in the house, and I would not think about creating a post before removing one if I see it there.

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

Proverbs 11:14
Where there is no guidance, a people falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety.

I would be careful not to be too legalistic about this. Taking away a childs toys can be traumatic for them and cause them to become bitter and actually cause them to turn away from God, which is exactly what you are trying not to do. I have heard about kids whose parents took away their pokemon because they thought it was evil turned away from Christ because that anger stayed with them and they blamed it on God. The parents deeply regret it now.

GeorgeJ · Aug 24, 2017

Quid est Veritas? said:
Actually, that is the Rod of Asclepius. It was the symbol of the ancient cult of this god of healing, which was related to snakes. The Hipoocratic Oath starts: "By Apollo the Healer and Asclepius..."

It may be derived from the treatment of the parasitic worm Dracunculus Medenensis, which entailed dragging it out of the subcutaneous tissue by means of a stick. Alternately, it may have simply been derived from Asclepius' association with snakes, who were present in his sanctuaries and said to aid in healing.

Regardless, this medical symbol is derived from the Greco-Roman medical tradition and is of pagan origin. It predates the Christianisation of the Empire, and likely was strengthened and survived due to the erroneous connection to the Biblical Brazen Serpent Nehusthan.

Incidentally, especcially in the US, some medical organisations use a double snake over a staff with wings. This is the Caduceus, and is a symbol of Hermes. This is actually a symbol of Merchants and was mistakenly applied to the US army medical corps in 1902 by an uneducated top brass officer, to the chagrin and embarrassment of many, subsequently spreading to civilian usage. It is profoundly inappropriate, as Hermes was related to making money and was a psychopomp, taking the dead to Hades.

Numbers 21:
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

A symbol of healing if there ever was one.......

RaymondG · Aug 24, 2017

MonstersvsMartyrs said:
Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

Proverbs 11:14
Where there is no guidance, a people falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety.

I would be careful not to be too legalistic about this. Taking away a childs toys can be traumatic for them and cause them to become bitter and actually cause them to turn away from God, which is exactly what you are trying not to do. I have heard about kids whose parents took away their pokemon because they thought it was evil turned away from Christ because that anger stayed with them and they blamed it on God. The parents deeply regret it now.

The only advice he needs, is the one God puts in his heart. Not yours or mine. Anything done not in faith is sin. So how can you tell another man it is ok to do something he doesnt feel good about doing?

This isnt a life or death issue, or a hell and heaven issue. This is akin to asking whether I should wear a green shirt or a white one. I have no problem with either color....so it is up to YOU which one you feel better wearing.

Dont try to destroy families or mess up children for life. Trying to make this bigger than it is doesnt make you appear more holy. you should read your own post as if it were written for yourself.....i believe it was.

MonstersvsMartyrs · Aug 24, 2017

RaymondG said:
The only advice he needs, is the one God puts in his heart. Not yours or mine. Anything done not in faith is sin. So how can you tell another man it is ok to do something he doesnt feel good about doing?

This isnt a life or death issue, or a hell and heaven issue. This is akin to asking whether I should wear a green shirt or a white one. I have no problem with either color....so it is up to YOU which one you feel better wearing.

Dont try to destroy families or mess up children for life. Trying to make this bigger than it is doesnt make you appear more holy. you should read your own post as if it were written for yourself.....i believe it was.

Im sorry if I offended anyone and I certainly didnt mean to try to appear more holy. I was just giving a friendly piece of advice, because thats what the OP asked for. My mother threw away my coin collecrion when I was little because she thought it was cursed by a witch. It may be a small thing now, but I still remember that it hurt. I dont want somebody else to go through that experience.

Instrument150 · Aug 24, 2017

MonstersvsMartyrs said:
Im sorry if I offended anyone and I certainly didnt mean to try to appear more holy. I was just giving a friendly piece of advice, because thats what the OP asked for. My mother threw away my coin collecrion when I was little because she thought it was cursed by a witch. It may be a small thing now, but I still remember that it hurt. I dont want somebody else to go through that experience.

Yeah, so the next time someone asks for advice on a public forum, ignore them. You should be ashamed of yourself

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