Is the New Age movement Satanic?

thesunisout · Apr 6, 2017

PuerAzaelis said:
Whether it is or not the real question is what need is it fulfilling that the church is not?

People want an experience, the church isn't offering experiences..it is offering the way of salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord.

RaymondG · Apr 6, 2017

thesunisout said:
It is absolutely Satanic and you are talking to someone who was in the New Age for nearly a decade. There is a supernatural power behind the belief systems that people practice, and it isn't from God.

Think of the New Age as paganism 2.0. It is an amalgam of many different religions and belief systems, a spiritual salad bar if you like. Belief in God is not widespread, and most do not believe in the existence of evil.

The new age books are written mostly by gurus who are either possessed or receiving information from demons claiming to be good spirits, aliens or the like. When you listen to them and put what they say into practice you are opening spiritual doors for the enemy to come and start doing things to you supernaturally.

I am still experiencing the consequences of being in the new age, 7 years after I got saved. Spiritual things can happen to you that are very hard to deal with mentally, physically and emotionally. Once the door opens you will never be able to close it unless God Himself closes it.

As someone who is speaking from experience and not theory, do not read those books, do not even entertain the thought of it. You will be tempted and the enemy knows how to lure you. Keep that door closed because if you don't, you may regret it later.

Excellent response....it is rare that you get an opinion from an insider. When you were practicing your form of "new age," was their any drugs involved at any point, or any diagnosed mental or emotional issues before or after you stopped?

Also, would you mind sharing the effects that were not removed after getting saved?

thesunisout · Apr 6, 2017

RaymondG said:
Excellent response....it is rare that you get an opinion from an insider. When you were practicing your form of "new age," was their any drugs involved at any point, or any diagnosed mental or emotional issues before or after you stopped?

Also, would you mind sharing the effects that were not removed after getting saved?

Drugs weren't part of my practice but I would take drugs occasionally. No diagnosed issues beyond what anyone experiences in this life.

I don't want to get into detail about what happened, because someone might investigate it. It is kind of like a Celebrate Recovery meeting where you aren't supposed to talk about specifics because it might trigger someone.

Today, the effects I am dealing with effect me on every level. It may be a thorn in the flesh to humble me. The Lord gives me grace to live with it but it is very unpleasant.

Greg J. · Apr 6, 2017

The desire for some sort of spiritual satisfaction (e.g., peace) is because we are partially separated from God. Filling it with anything other than God himself is harmful (and could be called "deception").

I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. (John 14:18, 1984 NIV)

Anyone looking for a belief system or church they like is looking for the wrong thing. We were designed to be connected to God and are completed when believe in Him. The only thing that will work and satisfy is the living person Jesus Christ. The beginning of that is the commitment to accept Jesus as our Lord over all our life (and death). The Holy Spirit then dwells within us and moves us forward.

Jesus is all we need:

Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. “All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. (John 14:23-26, 1984 NIV)

There is an overwhelming amount of Christian "spirituality" discussed in books that has God as the basis, enough to satisfy anyone for whom Jesus is their goal.

RaymondG · Apr 6, 2017

thesunisout said:
Drugs weren't part of my practice but I would take drugs occasionally. No diagnosed issues beyond what anyone experiences in this life.

I don't want to get into detail about what happened, because someone might investigate it. It is kind of like a Celebrate Recovery meeting where you aren't supposed to talk about specifics because it might trigger someone. Let's just say I opened a supernatural door, and it gave me power.

Today, the effects I am dealing with are an intense pressure which weighs on me in every aspect; mentally, emotionally, spiritually and physically. It may be a thorn in the flesh to humble me. I have learned to live with it but it is very unpleasant.

Although I didnt ask to describe any "new age" experiences, I think I know what you are talking about. I Think it is a gift to have this "door" opened By God when we are ready, called and prepared... but could seem to be a curse if forced prematurely. I pray God gives you the desires of your heart.

Thanks for the input. Good luck to you on your journey to heaven.

thesunisout · Apr 6, 2017

RaymondG said:
Although I didnt ask to describe any "new age" experiences, I think I know what you are talking about. I Think it is a gift to have this "door" opened By God when we are ready, called and prepared... but could seem to be a curse if forced prematurely. I pray God gives you the desires of your heart.

Thanks for the input. Good luck to you on your journey to heaven.

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you here. God bless

RaymondG · Apr 6, 2017

thesunisout said:
I'll have to respectfully disagree with you here. God bless

I know I know...... Since coming out of religion, I've started seeing positive in almost everything....you know.. everything working together for the good to them that love the Lord? "Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."??? Hey, do you find that since you've come into your version of christianity, that you've become more judgmental, or at least can spot darkness and negativity better? Maybe I should take a few steps back....there has to be some justifiable occasions to pick up stones and Throw them. Be Patient with me....God is not through.

John Hyperspace · Apr 6, 2017

To my mind, the only thing more "satanic" than unjust judgment, and false accusations; is to misapply scripture to support unjust judgment and false accusation. Judgment is not to be taken lightly, and passed without consideration with the utmost gravity.

A lot of people equate "satanic" with non-Christian ideology but of all the people in the bible, Simon Peter was called "satan" by Jesus (Matthew 16:23); and Peter wasn't reading a "new age" book at the time. Of all the people in the bible, it was the Pharisees who Jesus called children of the devil and they were corrupting the Word of God, and using their (mis)understanding of it to condemn the guiltless (Matthew 12:7).

What I am advising is that we take judgment very seriously, and do not engage in judgment either quickly, nor without full knowledge and understanding of the thing in which we speak and judge. So it's written, Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD.

archer75 · Apr 6, 2017

The term "New Age" is basically just marketing. Doesn't mean much in itself.

Most of the stuff under that name is, as a poster above said, nothing but fluff.

BTW, there are many forms of meditation. It is generally not about "emptying" the mind, but developing the skill of concentration.

If you ask me, you'll find actually satanic materials all over the place, but not under any new age heading. But that's for another thread.

writewords · Apr 6, 2017

Ultimately, yes, it is. Any religion, faith void of the biblical Jesus Christ is a false religion and henceforth satanic. Bad news, stay away.

Winken · Apr 6, 2017

Bee_Brian said:
Is the New Age movement Satanic?

I ask because I'm genuinely curious about New Age books in general. However, I am a Christian first before anything else, so I want to know... Anything and everything related to New Age. Is it Satanic? Or is it something that's safe to participate it?

Thanks in advance.

Yes. Don't mess with it. Ignore anyone who says it is ok.

Alithis · Apr 6, 2017

geiroffenberg said:
New age is hard to pin down to one set of doctrines, so noone can say it is satanic or not. Also waht christians call new age is raraly what people who calls them selfes new age means. Lot of confusion.
There are streams that is in line with the words of jesus, some of it literally buildt upon the words of jesus, honors god as the only creator, and there are others that probably communicates with fallen spirits.

the koeran dude said it is satanic because it tries to bypass the mind. This is not true at all. Most spiritual teaching buildt upon a eastern philosopic system sees the mind as a gateway for the spirit - exactly like jesus would say "the eye of the mind is the lamp of the body, you either keep it single, and it releases light and your whole body will be filled with light, or you keep it double minded and it blocks the light, and oh how gret the darkness then will be" kinda thing. It sounds very "new agey" but it is actually god in flesh teaching here. The opint in most eastern spirituality when it comes to the mind is to keep it pure filled with awareness (watching) rather than cosntanctly inner dialog/monologue....whjat we call obsessive thinking.
This "watching wa also taught very clearly by jesus many places, as he even told them that real un felshy powerful spiritual prayer is called "watch and pray" (for the spirit is willing)...and another place, this i tell you all "watch".
And rememebr judaism was not from the west! Jesus was not a westerner, and abraham literally came from these parts of the east....the "new age" parts....thats our father of faith, so we need to be craeful of what we call satanic....korean dude from asia......

that's just what new age spirits would say.
I can say according to the word of God that those who walk in the spirit of this world serve the demonic and those that are unrepentant are deceived

RaymondG · Apr 6, 2017

Winken said:
Yes. Don't mess with it. Ignore anyone who says it is ok.

What if an atheist Told him the same thing about Christianity......told him to ignore anyone who says it was ok......and gave just as much background and reasoning as you just did. Would you advise him to blindly do what he said? Or does this only apply to your instructions?

Winken · Apr 6, 2017

RaymondG said:
What if an atheist Told him the same thing about Christianity......told him to ignore anyone who says it was ok......and gave just as much background and reasoning as you just did. Would you advise him to blindly do what he said? Or does this only apply to your instructions?

An authentic Christian will respond that the atheist is misinformed at the least. The AC will never tell anyone to ignore Jesus Christ. No amount of background or reasoning could ever convince an AC to ignore Christianity; it will convince the AC that he or she is being called upon to witness to that person concerning authentic Christianity. "My" instructions are Biblical. The Holy Spirit is the one who provides that understanding.

RaymondG · Apr 6, 2017

Winken said:
An authentic Christian will respond that the atheist is misinformed at the least. The AC will never tell anyone to ignore Jesus Christ. No amount of background or reasoning could ever convince an AC to ignore Christianity; it will convince the AC that he or she is being called upon to witness to that person concerning authentic Christianity. "My" instructions are Biblical. The Holy Spirit is the one who provides that understanding.

Ok so maybe it is best to lead people to the guidance of the holy spirit instead of telling them to take your word for it and ignore everyone else's word. That is a practice that should not be encouraged. ACs wouldn't be asking these questions by your definition..... So if your statement is put into practice, one would be in danger of following anything or anyone that sounds good or authoritative at the time. New age movement is not defined in the bible. You have an opinion and told someone to follow it and ignore everyone else's. No scriptures, no whys, no details of how long you been in newage before you came out...nothing. just take my word for it and ignore everyone else. This is not about you being right or wrong. Your advice should apply in every situation. Blindly taking someone's word and ignore others should not be encouraged.

Winken · Apr 6, 2017

RaymondG said:
Ok so maybe it is best to lead people to the guidance of the holy spirit instead of telling them to take your word for it and ignore everyone else's word. That is a practice that should not be encouraged. ACs wouldn't be asking these questions by your definition..... So if your statement is put into practice, one would be in danger of following anything or anyone that sounds good or authoritative at the time. New age movement is not defined in the bible. You have an opinion and told someone to follow it and ignore everyone else's. No scriptures, no whys, no details of how long you been in newage before you came out...nothing. just take my word for it and ignore everyone else. This is not about you being right or wrong. Your advice should apply in every situation. Blindly taking someone's word and ignore others should not be encouraged.

It's not MY word. It is Biblical. I have no "word."

I lived through the "New Age" movement. I saw its destruction, which continues today.

Past my bedtime! Be blessed in Him!

friend of · Apr 7, 2017

RaymondG said:
oh ok, so a lot of what they are saying overlaps but when they start making us feel good about ourselves and thinking about loving everyone regardless of race or religion.....we know they are taking attention off of Jesus?

That's... kind of facetious, but kinda what I was getting at, yes. The reason being is-

RaymondG said:
I've heard some of the good things they say......I never felt the urge to forget about Jesus.

Right, but you already have solidified faith in Christ. Remember though, not everyone identifies as Christian. Some are seekers that can be led astray by man-inspired spirituality, resulting in not forming a relationship with Jesus, who is actually God, if they find that New Age ideas can suffice them in this present life. That's what I was getting at and that's what makes it dangerous.

Alithis · Apr 7, 2017

hengesthorsa said:
Buddhism is basically a program for self-improvement and mental discipline. Its core is the teachings of a man - who always said he was only a man - as preserved by his students. It's as much "from Satan" as Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing" is. If you think it is from satan, please cite evidence.

I do not know much about Wicca, but I think it is amazingly stupid to have a religion with a mispronounced Old English word for its name. Further, it is pretty silly that some of its adherents claim it is about or at least contains teachings about feminine power and so on...when that OE noun is grammatically masculine.

Exactly. and man operates out of the desire of the flesh and of the mind..fully influenced by the spirit of this world, the spirit of anti christ.
So there is no difference what painted mask you put on it.

Brian Mcnamee · Apr 7, 2017

Bee_Brian said:
Is the New Age movement Satanic?

I ask because I'm genuinely curious about New Age books in general. However, I am a Christian first before anything else, so I want to know... Anything and everything related to New Age. Is it Satanic? Or is it something that's safe to participate it?

Thanks in advance.

If you look at the various philosophy of new age thinking and compare it to the Bible you should run from that stuff. On the surface some seemingly overlapping virtues are brought forward. But at the heart of it is demoting Jesus from God creator ,savior and judge of the living and the dead to him being just an enlightened master. As Satan told Eve in the garden the day you eat of it you shall not die but be as Gods knowing good and evil.
You are part of the infinite and part of the divine. You grow through emptying yourself and meditation which is putting you in an altered state of consciousness. The Bible meditating is thinking seriously about something and listening for Gods voice through the passages you are studying.

Here is a good video documenting the Satanic or Luciferian ideas that are put into all kinds of different organizations. A common leader with a common goal is certain. The new age is just one of many groups who belong to the same master. This is an eye opener and well worth the time. It is over 2 hours long but documents the very agenda for the final 1 world government to rise for the 7 year tribulation. People are being prepped and the new age is totally on board.

lastofall · Apr 7, 2017

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