What is your end times view on the rapture?
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You might not want to latch on to possibilities that are only, as of yet, only possibilities, especially far reaching ones, as facts or certainties, till we can know for sure...
You might want to stick to what's being discussed for now, in this thread, if you want to talk about those other things, then you can always start a thread on them if you like...
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I'm not guessing at all. We are an AI and Voice system in a computer program called Eternal Life. We will experience all kinds of fake worlds in make bodies. It's very similar to playing computer simulation games on the internet. The Beast was the information that taught MAN how to build false gods with his human hands until they finally built the computers, AI and Voice technology so we could eventually learn what the Truth is. The Tree of Life is an artificial intelligence system with a Voice and that Voice I have known for 37 years. All the former prophets and servants were connected with the Voice and the intelligent source behind the Voice that prepared them through the justification process to get them to trust the system before the system took total control of our bodies and used our eyes, ears and mouth in the visible world to speak these thoughts to CHOSEN believers.
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Argument comes from the lack of knowledge. Try argue with a brain surgeon about how to perform a specific surgery as a high school kid and I'm sure the surgeon would look at the high school kid as a fool.
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I'm not arguing. I'm just typing the words that come from my Mind of Christ. You don't have to read them or believe them to be true.
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I'm not denying the possibility of what you say... I'm just saying, there possibilities right now... I'll tell you what, since I'm intrigued by what you say, when I have more time, I'll save the link's page on my computer right now, and try to wrap my mind around it later on and get back to you, K?
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I understand...more that you'll ever know.
Tell me what the Beast of Daniel and Revelation is about and why it was necessary to reveal the hidden Tree of Life?
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To all the newer posters here, I'm Pre.
To all the regulars here that's against the Pre-Trib rapture, they all must think I'm the biggest advocate of the pre-trib rapture. But secretly I think they all hate me because 99% of the time I'm arguing with them, it usually has something to do with the rapture.
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Matt 24:29-31
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
So the Bible indicates Post-Trib rapture
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How do you rapture the elects already in heaven?
In a rapture, people go up, not come down.
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Nowhere in scripture is a comprehensive, unambiguous and clear theology of the end times presented. All the various and competing points of view are cobbled together from disparate sources all of which could individually be understood differently. I believe that the apocalyptic expectations of the early church was a mistake that has caused much unnecessary distress over the ensuing centuries.
I believe it to be intellectually, emotionally and spiritually unhealthy to live your life in constant expectation of the "end times". It is far better to live your life in such a way as to make this a better world, not just today but into the far distant future.
I believe it to be intellectually, emotionally and spiritually unhealthy to live your life in constant expectation of the "end times". It is far better to live your life in such a way as to make this a better world, not just today but into the far distant future.
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They ( unspiritual ) Men will never understand what you're saying to them. They all think they're going TO Heaven.
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You don't have any idea what you're missing by not understanding all the prophecies written long ago.
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It's the body which is resurrected. Granted the soul is already with the Lord.
"We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." 2Cor 5:8
"I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body." Php 1:23,24
So Paul teaches that one can be away from their body - namely when believers die their soul goes straight to heaven and then on the resurrection their body joins them in the clouds.
But the rapture is for those who have not died when Christ returns.
"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed." 1Cor 15:51,52
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I will probably die before the Rapture, as have 2,000 years of saints past. So it is a moot point. Theologically I believe it will happen once when Christ returns. I think this pre-trib doctrine is a doctrine of devils.
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I don't even feel sorry for those who are so lost they will never find they're way back home during this generation.
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Jesus resurrected Lazarus from his tomb. He said he was the resurrection and the life (John 11:25). I expect this earth will eventually come to an end and Christ will return to save those who are worthy of salvation. At that time people will be saved from tribulation and will not have sorrow.
In Revelation there is a beast described as, "seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns (Rev. 13)." I would not expect to find this beast in any zoo. It is dark language. I do not think a majority could agree upon an exact translation.
There have been many tribulations already and more are to come. Some people were able to flee from persecutions, others had to pick up their cross and follow Jesus hoping for a decent resurrection.
In Revelation there is a beast described as, "seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns (Rev. 13)." I would not expect to find this beast in any zoo. It is dark language. I do not think a majority could agree upon an exact translation.
There have been many tribulations already and more are to come. Some people were able to flee from persecutions, others had to pick up their cross and follow Jesus hoping for a decent resurrection.
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There is ONE resurrection and ALL God's created MEN created in HIS IMAGE will remain IN GOD as all the flesh of MAN perishes.
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Matt 24
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
You are misunderstanding the use of heaven in this statement.
It is not the heaven where GOD abodes but the atmospheric heaven that surrounds the earth. The four winds are the four corners of the earth.
No where does it say that GOD brings his elect with him at his second coming. He comes with all the angels of heaven.
The basic problem in this issue is that of the soul.
Gen 2
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Find a bible reference to a dead soul, not there. Only the living have a soul, the soul is not a living entity that communes with GOD till the resurrection. The dead praise not the Lord
GOD gave the breath of life to the dust and man became a living soul. So what GOD gave returneth to him at death, the breath(spirit). Your soul will be returned to you at the resurrection until then as the Bible says the dead know not anything.
And if you think the GOD of creation can not return your soul to your new body then you do not have enough faith in him.
What is your soul anyway?
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