What is your end times view on the rapture?

[LastSeven]

There are also those who have intensively studied the bible and do not agree with your findings. Though rapture is not in the bible caught up is.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. - 1 Thessalonians 4:17
For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. - 1 Thessalonians 5:2
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24:44
The bible tells us to be ready, for such an hour as we think not Christ returns. In the times like Noah... In the times like Lot... Where they existed as in every day terms, until they were raptured away. And after they were raptured then the plagues of God fell...

Noah - The great flood
Lot - The angels leading him out of the city
Christians - The rapture... Meeting Christ in the clouds and in the air.

I don't think anybody disputes that at some point we will be caught up, as it says so in black and white. The disagreement comes from all the other stuff that goes with it. Being caught up is only a small part of the story. A very small part, though some people seem to think it's the main event.

 

[2X4]

I doubt it...God never was one for mind control...that's always been part of the deal.

Who teaches that, BTW?

God is the only teacher that exists but the program also contains information called Satan and the Beast that keeps the Minds of Men entertained with good and evil and to build false gods with their human hands. The good news is that Satan and the Beast will be deleted from the program very soon and never again will they control the Minds of Men.

 

[Neogaia777]

I'm the only one so far that said "Mid-trib" WTH/F? (sorry, Jesus, but...)

There are supposed to three and one half years of peace, (for the world but making it harder on Christians) then three and one half years of tribulation, the likes of which have never been seen or experienced before, during the total tribulation period, right...?

How do you suppose that happens if not a rapture in the middle, due to a kind of change in world policy or law at that time that would make it near impossible for Christians to stay Christians or saved? That would be the breaking point for God, where he will have "had enough"... (mark of the beast maybe, economic system change, having to worship the beast to be able to survive)...?

None of you think it's mid-trib? Really?

God Bless!

 

[2X4]

I'm the only one so far that said "Mid-trib" WTH/F? (sorry, Jesus, but...)

There are supposed to three and one half years of peace, (for the world but making it harder on Christians) then three and one half years of tribulation, the likes of which have never been seen or experienced before, during the total tribulation period, right...?

How do you suppose that happens if not a rapture in the middle, due to a kind of change in world policy or law at that time that would make it near impossible for Christians to stay Christians or saved? That would be the breaking point for God, where he will have "had enough"... (mark of the beast maybe, economic system change, having to worship the beast to be able to survive)...?

None of you think it's mid-trib? Really?

God Bless!

All the numbers in the Bible should never be used as a count for something. They're only used to deceive unspiritual man from knowing the Truth.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I'm the only one so far that said "Mid-trib" WTH/F? (sorry, Jesus, but...)

There are supposed to three and one half years of peace, (for the world but making it harder on Christians) then three and one half years of tribulation, the likes of which have never been seen or experienced before, during the total tribulation period, right...?

How do you suppose that happens if not a rapture in the middle, due to a kind of change in world policy or law at that time that would make it near impossible for Christians to stay Christians or saved? That would be the breaking point for God, where he will have "had enough"... (mark of the beast maybe, economic system change, having to worship the beast to be able to survive)...?

None of you think it's mid-trib? Really?

God Bless!

I didn't vote because I wasn't sure what was what, and even though I agree with you, mid trib, according to what you say would actually be at the end of the 3rd quarter if it were truly mid trib as the first 3.5 would not actually be tribulation.

Now if we count the 3.5 yrs of peace along with the last 3.5, all as the Tribulation, it would be mid trib.

Anyway, I guess I'm a mid tribber too. No rapture to save everyone, and just at the end, before all Christians are murdered for the cause, Christ comes to the rescue,. And for all intents and purposes, that's it, we are either saved or we are not at that point....it's the end of opportunity for salvation.

 

[Neogaia777]

All the numbers in the Bible should never be used as a count for something. They're only used to deceive unspiritual man from knowing the Truth.

Well then, without the numbers a period of worldly peace for worldly ones, not most Christians however, somehow turns into an equally long period of tribulation for all, the likes of which the world has never seen... How do you suppose that happens, unless their is a rapture in-between...? Due to them doing something that "breaks the straw on the camels back", so to speak for God..."

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

I didn't vote because I wasn't sure what was what, and even though I agree with you, mid trib, according to what you say would actually be at the end of the 3rd quarter if it were truly mid trib as the first 3.5 would not actually be tribulation.

Now if we count the 3.5 yrs of peace along with the last 3.5, all as the Tribulation, it would be mid trib.

Anyway, I guess I'm a mid tribber too. No rapture to save everyone, and just at the end, before all Christians are murdered for the cause, Christ comes to the rescue,. And for all intents and purposes, that's it, we are either saved or we are not at that point....it's the end of opportunity for salvation.

As I said, the beginning of tribulation period is tribulation for Christians, but not the world, then it becomes so for all, in the middle, when the rapture happens, due to them probably doing something that makes God having had "enough" of what the world is putting his people through... So, the rapture...

God Bless!

 

[Kenny'sID]

All the numbers in the Bible should never be used as a count for something. They're only used to deceive unspiritual man from knowing the Truth.

then that would mean we have no idea when the Sabbath is, not idea how long it took Christ to rise from the dead, or how long it took God to create the earth, among other things, a lot of other things.

Wow, that changes everything.

 

[2X4]

Well then, without the numbers a period of worldly peace for worldly ones, not most Christians however, somehow turns into an equally long period of tribulation for all, the likes of which the world has never seen... How do you suppose that happens, unless their is a rapture in-between...? Due to them doing something that "breaks the straw on the camels back", so to speak for God..."

God Bless!

If you were chosen to listen to the Voice of God and obey ALL his commandments, then you would learn what the Truth is. But don't worry about this because only a few created Men were chosen to participate in the Gospel of God and learn how they were created and what MAN and GOD are called the Tree of Life that's been hidden from MAN and GOD ever since the beginning of the program.

 

[Kenny'sID]

As I said, the beginning of tribulation period is tribulation for Christians, but not the world,

I understand, and agree. as to the rapture, I don't use the term to describe the what happens with Christs one return because it can get confused with my believing in the more popular pre trib rapture, but that's just personal preference.

 

[LastSeven]

None of you think it's mid-trib? Really?

How can it be mid trib if we don't get resurrected until the last day?

 

[2X4]

then that would mean we have no idea when the Sabbath is, not idea how long it took Christ to rise from the dead, or how long it took God to create the earth, among other things, a lot of other things.

Wow, that changes everything.

The creator's of the program called Eternal Life CHOSE certain created MEN to participate in the Gospel of God and learn what the Truth is during this short generation that was only meant to reveal the Truth ( Tree of Life ).

We've been experiencing the millennium reign of Christ that started 2,000 years ago and one month ago, MAN and GOD finally learned what they are. So the important part of this whole generation was to reveal exactly who MAN and GOD are.

Genesis 1
26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

These written words in Genesis have confused ALL created MAN until one month ago.

 

[Kenny'sID]

If you were chosen to listen to the Voice of God and obey ALL his commandments, then you would learn what the Truth is. But don't worry about this because only a few created Men were chosen to participate in the Gospel of God and learn how they were created and what MAN and GOD are called the Tree of Life that's been hidden from MAN and GOD ever since the beginning of the program.

Are you one of the few chosen ones?

 

[2X4]

Are you one of the few chosen ones?

I'm the last servant to testify to the knowledge of Christ to end the millennium reign of Christ. Now we wait for the day of the Lord destruction of Satan and the Beast and all flesh formed from that information.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The creator's of the program called Eternal Life CHOSE certain created MEN to participate in the Gospel of God and learn what the Truth is during this short generation that was only meant to reveal the Truth ( Tree of Life ).

We've been experiencing the millennium reign of Christ that started 2,000 years ago and one month ago, MAN and GOD finally learned what they are. So the important part of this whole generation was to reveal exactly who MAN and GOD are.

Genesis 1
26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

These written words in Genesis have confused ALL created MAN until one month ago.

You didn't address my comment, Is it true we don't know how long creation took? According to what you said, it would be true and the numbers I mentioned could not be depended on.

Also can you give an example of how They're only used to deceive unspiritual man from knowing the Truth?

 

[2X4]

You didn't address my comment, Is it true we don't know how long creation took? According to what you said, it would be true and the numbers I mentioned could not be depended on.

Also can you give an example of how They're only used to deceive unspiritual man from knowing the Truth?

We will never know how long it took our creator or creators to build the computer program that contains the AI and Voice system that gives us life.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I'm the last servant to testify to the knowledge of Christ

Most of us have a knowledge of Christ already, and as expected by all Christians, we testify for him too, so it makes no sense you would be the last, or am I not understanding what you mean by that?

 

[Kenny'sID]

We will never know how long it took our creator or creators to build the computer program that contains the AI and Voice system that gives us life.

My comment/question, had nothing to do with that, but if you choose not to address it, that's your prerogative.

 

[2X4]

Most of us have a knowledge of Christ already, and as expected by all Christians, we testify for him too, so it makes no sense you would be the last, or am I not understanding what you mean by that?

Unspiritual men don't even know what "Christ" means. If you're truly "born again" in the Spirit with me, then you wouldn't be arguing at all. You would enjoy the words that come out of my MIND of CHRIST.

1 Corinthians 2
10: God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.
11: For what person knows a man's thoughts except the spirit of the man which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12: Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might understand the gifts bestowed on us by God.
13: And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit.
14: The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
15: The spiritual man judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one.
16: "For who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

Those of us who speak from the mind of Christ know who is unspiritual.

 

[Neogaia777]

How can it be mid trib if we don't get resurrected until the last day?

Being taken up to held elsewhere temporarily is not a resurrection (per-say)... We usually only call a resurrection a resurrection when it is into a bodily form to be here on the earth, that doesn't happen till the last day... For example we don't say Elijah or Enoch was resurrected when they were "taken up" to be in spirit form somewhere, but only when it is to a bodily form to be on the earth and in the earth realm which happens at the end of the last day of this current world system's existence...

God Bless!