Alex Jones..... what do you think of him (conspiracy stuff included)?

NothingIsImpossible · Nov 9, 2016

Many of you who know me (or my old account from before) know I used to be a heavy conspiracy nut. I was into the NWO, FEMA camps, building underground bunkers (prepping)...etc. So I know who Alex Jones is.

Obviously after I got out of that stuff I stopped caring about Alex Jones. I'll quickly add conspiracy stuff I believe is done by the devil to draw us away from God. The devil knows human weakness. One of them is fear. Conspiracy stuff makes you live in constant fear. Which God says we should not do but instead have trust, faith, hope...etc in Him instead. For me I left God way behind and obsessed with conspiracy stuff for a long time before seeing the light.

Likewise I feel Alex Jones is the same thing. Not saying hes the devil himself, but I think hes just a pawn of the devil to prey on christians who are maybe not in their full armor of God just yet. As in they may be move easily fooled into following him. To me hes heres to misdirect us and guide us down a road of fear and confusion. With the goal of drawing us away from God. And sadly I know MANY, a good chunk of christians are into him. They talk about him all the time.

And because of his lure, they fail to realize 99% of the time hes full of deceit. For example after 9/11 (like in 2002) he had talked about the NWO was about to take over. FEMA was setting up camps to take us too right away as soon as martial law was going to be started. At the time he said it would happen VERY SOON. Like within weeks if not just a few months. He told people to prep for it. As time went on he made all sorts of wild accusations and comments. None of which ever came true.

Its sort of like as time goes on he looks for any little thing in the news to say "Ha, see! Its happening!". Sort of like a false prophet who claims to know the future.

So anyways now that I am done ranting, how do you feel about him? Is he some saint whos protecting people. Or a wolf in sheeps clothing sent by the devil to distract, confuse and make us fearful?

The Hammer of Witches · Nov 9, 2016

He is a lukewarm believer, that much I can tell. Other than that, it looks like he actually believes in what he is talking about. Some of it makes sense, some of it is fear mongering. Only God truly knows a mans heart.

SnowyMacie · Nov 9, 2016

SeventyOne · Nov 9, 2016

I only really became aware of him as a listener during this election cycle. He seems very dramatic in his presentation, very driven to get information out, entertaining to listen to, and fun to watch. He opened my eyes to a lot of the election side stories that I would probably have never heard anywhere else, and he seemed right on target.

As with anyone else, take a "trust by verify" approach, but I'm certain to tune into his stuff more and more now.

He seems like a believer, standing up for biblical principles, confessing Jesus as Lord, praying on-air in the name of Jesus, etc. I haven't yet seen or heard anything to make me question it, but like I said, I'm still relatively new as a listener.

Calvinist Dark Lord · Nov 9, 2016

NothingIsImpossible said:
Many of you who know me (or my old account from before) know I used to be a heavy conspiracy nut. I was into the NWO, FEMA camps, building underground bunkers (prepping)...etc. So I know who Alex Jones is.

Obviously after I got out of that stuff I stopped caring about Alex Jones. I'll quickly add conspiracy stuff I believe is done by the devil to draw us away from God. The devil knows human weakness. One of them is fear. Conspiracy stuff makes you live in constant fear. Which God says we should not do but instead have trust, faith, hope...etc in Him instead. For me I left God way behind and obsessed with conspiracy stuff for a long time before seeing the light.

Likewise I feel Alex Jones is the same thing. Not saying hes the devil himself, but I think hes just a pawn of the devil to prey on christians who are maybe not in their full armor of God just yet. As in they may be move easily fooled into following him. To me hes heres to misdirect us and guide us down a road of fear and confusion. With the goal of drawing us away from God. And sadly I know MANY, a good chunk of christians are into him. They talk about him all the time.

And because of his lure, they fail to realize 99% of the time hes full of deceit. For example after 9/11 (like in 2002) he had talked about the NWO was about to take over. FEMA was setting up camps to take us too right away as soon as martial law was going to be started. At the time he said it would happen VERY SOON. Like within weeks if not just a few months. He told people to prep for it. As time went on he made all sorts of wild accusations and comments. None of which ever came true.

Its sort of like as time goes on he looks for any little thing in the news to say "Ha, see! Its happening!". Sort of like a false prophet who claims to know the future.

So anyways now that I am done ranting, how do you feel about him? Is he some saint whos protecting people. Or a wolf in sheeps clothing sent by the devil to distract, confuse and make us fearful?

i have a relationship with conspiracy theories: i collect them for my own amusement. There are a few i even believe.

It is my experience ~your mileage may vary~ that about 85% of all conspiracy theories are worthless. Of the remaining 15% they have some truth to them and the remnant are true.

i had a very easy test for the conspiracy theories which i would take a second look at. One simply looks for the "How on Earth did we miss THIS!!!" (fill in the blank) factor. The ones that seem to have convenient explanations for every little difficulty are probably the most bogus. The reason for that is that human beings are often credited with being smarter than they really are in this life. NOBODY could plan for half of the garbage that one sees in the generic conspiracy theory. We're just NOT.THAT.SMART.

Now as to the case of Alex Jones, i have very simple guidelines. Always check Jones' primary sources. It is my experience that people like Jones tend to make extrapolations from legitimate evidence that the evidence will not support. Jones in hardly alone in this. i've also seen it on the World Net Daily site.

John Hyperspace · Nov 9, 2016

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NothingIsImpossible said:
Many of you who know me (or my old account from before) know I used to be a heavy conspiracy nut. I was into the NWO, FEMA camps, building underground bunkers (prepping)...etc. So I know who Alex Jones is.

Obviously after I got out of that stuff I stopped caring about Alex Jones. I'll quickly add conspiracy stuff I believe is done by the devil to draw us away from God. The devil knows human weakness. One of them is fear. Conspiracy stuff makes you live in constant fear. Which God says we should not do but instead have trust, faith, hope...etc in Him instead. For me I left God way behind and obsessed with conspiracy stuff for a long time before seeing the light.

Likewise I feel Alex Jones is the same thing. Not saying hes the devil himself, but I think hes just a pawn of the devil to prey on christians who are maybe not in their full armor of God just yet. As in they may be move easily fooled into following him. To me hes heres to misdirect us and guide us down a road of fear and confusion. With the goal of drawing us away from God. And sadly I know MANY, a good chunk of christians are into him. They talk about him all the time.

And because of his lure, they fail to realize 99% of the time hes full of deceit. For example after 9/11 (like in 2002) he had talked about the NWO was about to take over. FEMA was setting up camps to take us too right away as soon as martial law was going to be started. At the time he said it would happen VERY SOON. Like within weeks if not just a few months. He told people to prep for it. As time went on he made all sorts of wild accusations and comments. None of which ever came true.

Its sort of like as time goes on he looks for any little thing in the news to say "Ha, see! Its happening!". Sort of like a false prophet who claims to know the future.

So anyways now that I am done ranting, how do you feel about him? Is he some saint whos protecting people. Or a wolf in sheeps clothing sent by the devil to distract, confuse and make us fearful?

I'm personally unsure. I can't really verify or falsify anything being said by these personalities. But here is something I do notice that I feel to be highly dangerous: I have friends who watch these videos (and more, of course) and the videos present evidence and then usually have the personality stating virtually matter-of-factly "These people are evil." This, in turn, causes my friends to echo the judgment, and begin saying "Those people are evil" and I notice they get realy defensive and often upset if I won't agree with their judgment.

I maintain that, since I can't verify or falsify the presented evidence, it would be wrong and incompetent judgment for me to render a verdict concerning other people. Especially when these accused people are not given a chance to personally defend themselves against the accusations. But I see people all around me pointing fingers at other people and saying "They are pure evil!" then listing the "crimes" of their "guilty"

Now, at one point I said, I don't know, and don't have enough information; I refuse to judge these people in any way. And if you are right, then you are right, but I believe your judgment is wrong, and just happens to be right- but your method of judgment is not proven "righteous" just because it turns out to be correct. BUT, if you are wrong, then you have become guilty of a very serious false accusation of innocent people. This would, in fact, cause you to become literal "devils" in the sense that the Greek word means "slanderer" or "false accuser"; and you would become literal "satans" in that you have become an "adversary" to innocent people by thusly accusing them without any real evidence to do so; and without allowing them to defend themselves from the accusations. This could be a case where your own judgment is turned back upon your own heads.

The more time passed, the more it felt like the world was really desperately trying to get me to begin judging people as guilty of the most heinous of crimes. Naturally, I was able to avoid this as I would simply say "I refuse to judge in this matter; not having the proper evidence and procedure": but I do note that a great many people are being coerced into very very dangerous judgment scenarios. I try to get them to see what they are doing, but am ignored at every turn as they maintain "I have all of the evidence I need" while pointing to some odd youtube videos that make very serious accusations.

In the end, all I can say is, I do not know if what they are saying is true or not true, but I will not be drawn into what seems to me unrighteous judgment, and accusations of the most serious kind. Not in a million years.

I also do note a great amount of fear and anxiety in those also making such judgments, so I do wonder about it. It does seem "devlish" to incite people to begin accusing others they do not know, though I'm not sure if these personalities intend on doing this, or, if they are merely victims of the same effect.

Elliewaves · Nov 9, 2016

I've never heard of him before; but he sounds like a nut so it's probably best to ignore everything he says. I don't exactly know if people like this are trying to lead others to or away from God; but if it's that confusing then it's probably best to get your news elsewhere.

Job8 · Nov 9, 2016

Elliewaves said:
I've never heard of him before; but he sounds like a nut so it's probably best to ignore everything he says.

There is nothing nutty about the news items posted on INFOWARS. Actually you can get some excellent insight into current affairs from Alex Jones.

Kit Sigmon · Nov 9, 2016

NothingIsImpossible said:
Many of you who know me (or my old account from before) know I used to be a heavy conspiracy nut. I was into the NWO, FEMA camps, building underground bunkers (prepping)...etc. So I know who Alex Jones is.

Obviously after I got out of that stuff I stopped caring about Alex Jones. I'll quickly add conspiracy stuff I believe is done by the devil to draw us away from God. The devil knows human weakness. One of them is fear. Conspiracy stuff makes you live in constant fear. Which God says we should not do but instead have trust, faith, hope...etc in Him instead. For me I left God way behind and obsessed with conspiracy stuff for a long time before seeing the light.

Likewise I feel Alex Jones is the same thing. Not saying hes the devil himself, but I think hes just a pawn of the devil to prey on christians who are maybe not in their full armor of God just yet. As in they may be move easily fooled into following him. To me hes heres to misdirect us and guide us down a road of fear and confusion. With the goal of drawing us away from God. And sadly I know MANY, a good chunk of christians are into him. They talk about him all the time.

And because of his lure, they fail to realize 99% of the time hes full of deceit. For example after 9/11 (like in 2002) he had talked about the NWO was about to take over. FEMA was setting up camps to take us too right away as soon as martial law was going to be started. At the time he said it would happen VERY SOON. Like within weeks if not just a few months. He told people to prep for it. As time went on he made all sorts of wild accusations and comments. None of which ever came true.

Its sort of like as time goes on he looks for any little thing in the news to say "Ha, see! Its happening!". Sort of like a false prophet who claims to know the future.

So anyways now that I am done ranting, how do you feel about him? Is he some saint whos protecting people. Or a wolf in sheeps clothing sent by the devil to distract, confuse and make us fearful?

NothingIsImpossible, I don't know him but I do know who sits on Heaven's throne and I got the Bible, no time for conspiracies, not clogging up my mind with "what ifs".
It be enough to follow Jesus, share the gospel, help my neighbor, forgive seven times seventy, act justly, show mercy, walk humbly with the Lord etc...

seashale76 · Nov 10, 2016

My personal opinion on Alex Jones is that I don't think he really is a conspiracy theorist himself. I believe that, like Ann Coulter, he doesn't believe anything that comes out of his own mouth but that he's more than willing to provide theatre for entertainment and profit from it.

Sometimes, he'll even take somewhat legitimate concerns and turn them into something entirely whackadoodle. Example A:

^A synopsis for those that don't want to watch it: Essentially, a group was having a pro-Second Amendment rally in Austin. Alex Jones shows up with his entourage and a bull horn and starts talking over them and completely disrupts the rally. When they try to stop him from disrupting and then invite him to work with them and let those that were speaking continue, Jones accuses them of being Cointelpro and later brags on his show about how he battled the Cointelpro people at his rally (which wasn't even his rally). The irony being, he was the one doing exactly what he was accusing them of doing.

Seriously, Jones outed himself as being completely disingenuous. Apparently, this is not even an isolated example.

So, I think he's a sensationalist that doesn't believe anything that comes out of his own mouth- and it's blatantly obvious. Alex Jones makes a LOT of money doing what he does. He's laughing all the way to the bank.

NothingIsImpossible · Nov 10, 2016

Good replies!

As for seashale76, thats a good point. He does profit from what he says. Which is why many "leaders" when it comes to conspiracies tend to sell things too. Like books, dvds...etc. Scare some people and make money at it. Con men almost.

DawnStar · Nov 11, 2016

He is a greedy whacko.

ViaCrucis · Nov 11, 2016

Job8 said:
There is nothing nutty about the news items posted on INFOWARS. Actually you can get some excellent insight into current affairs from Alex Jones.

Sometimes when you find out something about a poster on here, a lot of other things suddenly start to make a bit more sense.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis · Nov 11, 2016

TX_Matt said:
Who?

Glenn Beck on steroids.

-CryptoLutheran

Calvinist Dark Lord · Nov 11, 2016

ViaCrucis said:
Glenn Beck on steroids.

-CryptoLutheran

i wouldn't go that far. While i have little to no use for Alex Jones and believe him to be a thief and a con-man, he's FAR MORE rational than Glen Beck. At least Jones isn't sticking his face into a bowl of Cheetos.

NothingIsImpossible · Nov 11, 2016

I never got the appeal of Glen Beck. He seems a bit....off.

LoricaLady · Nov 12, 2016

I don't trust him. Some say the "elite" set up some people to be what they call "controlled opposition". That is someone acts like they are against them, but kind of messes it up deliberately or doesn't tell the real dirt. I don't know, but that's how he comes across to me.

longwait · Nov 14, 2016

I only started listening to him during the recent U.S elections. One thing I know he is more trustworthy than the mainstream media. Every other news outlet was extremely twisted and false. If you had followed the recent elections and compared the MSM with infowars you could see the difference. Didn't the MSM deceive and shock the whole world when the election results came out. This proves who to trust and who not to. Besides Alex Jones has been praying a lot on air lately and quoting scripture. I don't think he's fake. But then no human is perfect.

ChristianMatchmaking · Nov 14, 2016

NothingIsImpossible said:
Many of you who know me (or my old account from before)

What happened to your old account? I thought we were only allowed to have one.

Alex Jones and what he puts out is not without value but you obviously have to be discerning and not just accept everything blindly. This guy named Paul Joseph Watson associated with him is also interesting.

Fear is not required. We are commanded to be both shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves. People seem to like the "innocent as doves" part and forget all about the "shrewd as serpents" part. They also seem to forget that none of it is optional and that the whole statement is given in the form of a command.

Nothing wrong with a good "conspiracy theory" if it has merit, especially if it's true no less. Did we not just witness a huge and real "conspiracy" played out in front of the entire world regarding who was chosen as and allowed by the respective party leadership to even be one of the two presidential candidates, for instance?

ChristianMatchmaking · Nov 14, 2016

P.S. Just noticed there's a whole "conspiracy theories" section here. How about that.

Wanted to mention that while some may be valid and important, if it becomes an unhealthy obsession or an idol that is certainly not good, which I would think should go without saying.

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