Cyrus and Darius

AlasBabylon said:

I won't debate it further on this topic... but I will say that Cyrus is important...
because he was an OT archetype of Christ. The way he conquered Babylon
is hidden in symbolic form in the book of Revelation... but only if one knows
the history and the symbols... which the Israelites did because it was also
their history.

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I agree with your analysis that the O.T is very important for us to understand the book of Revelation, including the story of Cyrus, but the books of Ezekiel and Daniel exceed all the others in my opinion, especially Ezekiel.

We have to understand that the word of God is spiritual first of all, we have to find life in the enduring word of God according to Peter. The book of Revelation is the pinnacle of the power of the Word to save us from the powers of the air which have control over us.

My experience with the book of Revelation is that it reveals to us who and what Jesus is all about within our own inner world of being, for both Jews (those with faith in us and who posses the knowledge of the law,) and Gentiles, those in us who are still stuck with darkness and sin and/or have rejected to follow the truth of God and divide us from within. ) Both male and female, slave and free, young and old and also and especially all those in us who have died.

This is what chapter 1 to 7 is basically all about on a personal level - the revealing of Jesus within us and the ones He has chosen to rule over our lives with Him - and the diminishing of the powers that have control over us, especially the world, its religions, philosophies, education, history, laws, creeds and morals, our own flesh, and of course our enemy satan and his hordes, who are the 'kings' and 'rulers' behind that all. Revelation 8-19

While Chapter 20 is where the believer renewed and reborn rules as king with Christ in His kingdom of loving peace, preparing for the day satan will be released from his pit and try one more time to steal our salvation from us but we are assured than also then Jesus will be victorious and chapter 21 and 22 will cement our truth with God's and true oneness with God has finally been achieved again.

To speculate what the Word might mean literally is not wise in my opinion, we can never understand what is written there until we have gone through the Word ourselves a few times and then we will understand and see everything very different than religion had taught us before such events took place. The book of Revelation is spiritual and should be understood and read spiritually.

Revelation 1:1-3
The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

AlasBabylon said:

It's happening NOW !

The 70 year OT Babylonian period relates to the NT 70 year period
beginning when the Edomite Herod conquered Jerusalem in 37BC and
Rome declared him King of Judea... to the crucifixion and resurrection
of Christ about 33AD. Cyrus who liberated Israel from Babylon was a type
of Christ. He was even called God's anointed in Isaiah 45. Furthermore,
I believe we are in a third repeat pattern now... and have been since the
end of WW2... and if I am right about that timing... we are in year 70 now
and the return of Christ is at hand. Of course, I might be off in the timing...
but the current repeat pattern still exists now... we are in it !!

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Interesting.
Have you based that claim upon the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 ?What is that repeating pattern that you say still exists now ?

Does it have something to do with the current State of Israel who was created in 1948 and
The Synagogue Of Satan: Those Who Claim To Be Judah But Do Lie (?)

http://worldeventsandthebible.com/2013/10/the-synagogue-of-satan-those-who-claim.html

Riberra said:

Interesting.
Have you based that claim upon the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 ?What is that repeating pattern that you say still exists now ?

Does it have something to do with the current State of Israel who was created in 1948 and
The Synagogue Of Satan: Those Who Claim To Be Judah But Do Lie (?)

http://worldeventsandthebible.com/2013/10/the-synagogue-of-satan-those-who-claim.html

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The three 70 year repeat patterns are desolations of God's Israel people.

OT desolation = Babylon/Edom. Liberation from desolation = Cyrus [OT archetype of Christ]

NT desolation = Rome/Edomite fake "Jews." Liberation = God's incarnation, Jesus Christ.

Current desolation = NWO/Edomite fake "Jews." Liberation = second coming of Christ.


In the OT 70 years.... Edom joined Babylon in destroying Jerusalem and the temple [1 Esdras 4:45 & Psalms 137:7.]
While Israelites were away in Babylonian captivity... Edomites moved in to maliciously occupy the Holy Land [Ezekiel 36:5.]

In the NT 70 years... the same pattern. First Edom "converted" to being "Jews" so they could live in the Kingdom of Israel.
Then Edomite fake "Jew", Herod, teamed up with Rome to conquer and occupy Jerusalem and become king of Judea.
Herod also destroyed [Cyrus' decreed rebuilt] temple... totally tearing it down to rebuild his own. [Josephus]

In the current 70 year pattern... Edom again maliciously occupies the Holy Land [Tel Aviv June 3, 2016.]

Btw.... we are now in the 70th session of the United Nations [global government] which began last September.

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Jeshu said:

I agree with your analysis that the O.T is very important for us to understand the book of Revelation, including the story of Cyrus, but the books of Ezekiel and Daniel exceed all the others in my opinion, especially Ezekiel.

We have to understand that the word of God is spiritual first of all, we have to find life in the enduring word of God according to Peter. The book of Revelation is the pinnacle of the power of the Word to save us from the powers of the air which have control over us.

My experience with the book of Revelation is that it reveals to us who and what Jesus is all about within our own inner world of being, for both Jews (those with faith in us and who posses the knowledge of the law,) and Gentiles, those in us who are still stuck with darkness and sin and/or have rejected to follow the truth of God and divide us from within. ) Both male and female, slave and free, young and old and also and especially all those in us who have died.

This is what chapter 1 to 7 is basically all about on a personal level - the revealing of Jesus within us and the ones He has chosen to rule over our lives with Him - and the diminishing of the powers that have control over us, especially the world, its religions, philosophies, education, history, laws, creeds and morals, our own flesh, and of course our enemy satan and his hordes, who are the 'kings' and 'rulers' behind that all. Revelation 8-19

While Chapter 20 is where the believer renewed and reborn rules as king with Christ in His kingdom of loving peace, preparing for the day satan will be released from his pit and try one more time to steal our salvation from us but we are assured than also then Jesus will be victorious and chapter 21 and 22 will cement our truth with God's and true oneness with God has finally been achieved again.

To speculate what the Word might mean literally is not wise in my opinion, we can never understand what is written there until we have gone through the Word ourselves a few times and then we will understand and see everything very different than religion had taught us before such events took place. The book of Revelation is spiritual and should be understood and read spiritually.

Revelation 1:1-3
The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

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I agree about the Old Testament having a lot that helps bring understanding or reinforces what is written in Revelation and the other New Testament books. Ezekiel, Daniel, Zechariah, Isaiah, Psalms, Hosea, Joel, etc. I spent a long time going through the Old Testament and finding every passage I could about the Tribulation, Return of Christ, and Millennial Reign. There is really quite a lot in there.

I believe Revelation is more than spiritual. I think it also describes a future Tribulation, 7 years (based on Daniel 9) but the latter three and half years being the most difficult time; the victorious return of Jesus to time and space to inflict punishment on those who hate him and to reward the righteous; His earthly reign, which resurrected believers help in; the final rebellion (Gog/Magog); the final judgment; the new heavens and the new earth.

Luke17:37 said:

I agree about the Old Testament having a lot that helps bring understanding or reinforces what is written in Revelation and the other New Testament books. Ezekiel, Daniel, Zechariah, Isaiah, Psalms, Hosea, Joel, etc. I spent a long time going through the Old Testament and finding every passage I could about the Tribulation, Return of Christ, and Millennial Reign. There is really quite a lot in there.

I believe Revelation is more than spiritual. I think it also describes a future Tribulation, 7 years (based on Daniel 9) but the latter three and half years being the most difficult time; the victorious return of Jesus to time and space to inflict punishment on those who hate him and to reward the righteous; His earthly reign, which resurrected believers help in; the final rebellion (Gog/Magog); the final judgment; the new heavens and the new earth.

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Agree! Absolutely Revelation is much more than spiritual, but the spiritual is always first( and then last again.) So for Jesus to come to this earth we believers have to let Him grow in our hearts and minds and let Him teach us how to love God and neighbour as He did and then the power of the book of Revelation, and all of God's word, will fell God's enemies as they stand and watch on. For the truth shall be known to all and the veil that keeps the truth at bay will be lifted. For His Name is The Word of God. (John 14:23, Zechariah 14:12, Isaiah 25:7, Revelation 19:13)

When the power of the holy people has finally been broken and the abomination that causes desolation has been revealed, then we believers will know that the time is close at hand. Daniel 12:7 All these other speculations and predictions based on literal explanations of current events using spiritual words which are only for the spiritually discerning, Corinthians 2:12-14, shows me that the power of the false prophet is very real, Revelation 16:12-14, but that such people don't know that the day of the Lord is a day of darkness and not light, for those who merely speculate with God's Word but have not put the Word of God into action and do not know Him? Amos 5:15-24

At least I'm utterly convinced that one will be taken and one will be left behind on the day of His revealing, Matthew 24:40-44. I'm really looking forward to that, when all people will finally become true children of God again and the exclusive religious gatherings carrying the name Christian or otherwise who boast that some kind of self achievement has saved them will finally be wiped out and we will all mourn the One we have pierced. Revelation 1:7.

So yes please come Lord Jesus so all us physically absorbed people down here can finally be changed from mortal to immortal, from religious to spiritual, from untrue to true, from arrogant to humble, from unjust to just, from those who speculate with God's truth to those who know God's truth, and from loveless to loving, truly in God's image to be. The Churches of God to be true again like in the days of the apostles.

Greetings from a praying heart.



Oh Come, Glorious Judgment!

Judgment Day begins when you meet up with Jesus,
He will search out your heart completely,
dividing the sheep from the goat!

He will address your inner lovelessness with His love,
and chase the clinging coldness away,
from death setting your soul wholly free!

Truly Judgment Day, is a day of ecstatic joy,
freedom for all those hurting and killed,
Only His Loving Truth ruling your inner reality.

Bad religion shall no longer cause any bother,
As His loving joy now finds deeper root,
Lush growth replacing all the deadness!

Yet Judgment Day will be the end of your fear,
As no terror may travel on The Way,
All of you in union, praising the Lamb!

Your big I, gets new function in the rear,
Loving Jesus ruling as king in place!
You loving our Heavenly Father dearly.

In all your life's deeds The Son you'll meet,
Answerable for all that you have done,
In good and bad His truth visiting you!

Judgment Day is about being rightly placed,
good and loving upfront - to B(b)e -
all bad behind - passing away!

Luke17:37 said:

Hi Jeshu,

I like your zeal to be found a doer of the Word (supernaturally changed by what it teaches), and not a hearer only.

You wrote, "At least I'm utterly convinced that one will be taken and one will be left behind on the day of His revealing, Matthew 24:40-44." Do you know who, in context, is taken at the revealing of the Son of Man? Jump back to verses 37-39. Who were the taken? If it's not obvious, check out Luke 17:22-37 and compare it with Matthew 24:37-44. What then, does Jesus mean in Luke 17:37 and Matthew 24:28?

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That is the best part of it when you think about it, bad life in everybody is judged and dies out of people, so all those who are untrue will perish. However good life will be left, for there are not only goats about also sheep. So in everyone there is a goat (or goats if you look from a deed perspective over a life time,) and sheep.

However the election of the heart is not trivial matter that much the book of Revelation makes clear. So yes when Jesus come all that has life in lies will perish and all the life that has been killed by untrue life will raised up, so no one is gong to be missing out apart of those who loved falsehood and evil and ruled sinful hearts down here.

For a long time there is room for the wicked to repent but if they are not willing and keep on doing evil then their time runs out, then they will all be quaking in their boots you can be assured of that. The wicked are cowards after all. I can't wait till Jesus wipes them all out, out of my life as well, for then I finally will be able to be perfectly loving and perfectly truthful like God in trinity is.

Wouldn't it be great if bad life just died out of us people once and for all? This is what I believe the coming of our Lord will be like, all sinful spirituality will be judged and punished according to deed and perish out of His good life forever. When He comes no one is not going to believe any more that He isn't the Son of God, or true God, or has the right to be their judge, they will all mourn Him and all will serve and praise Him as He deserves.

Everyone will mourn Him! The Lamb will finally receive glory and honour from a multitude that no one can count, it will happen, in each and everyone of us, there is no chance that satan will get anything apart of the crap he and his hench men have created. 'T fiery lake. Good riddance of bad life that's for sure. (Revelation 20

It is The Word that is going to go through us and judge us according to what lives inside of us, no one can escape Him. Hebrews 4:12-13

So yes I very much believe in judgment like Jesus says - one will be left and one will be taken - 100 percent of His people are saved and 100 percent of the evildoers are punished, can't go wrong I reckon, the bible is so just.

Peace

AlasBabylon said:

There was no king before Cyrus, he founded the Persian empire.

Darius is used in the book of Daniel as another name for Cyrus.

The first Darius to rule Persia was Darius I, Cyrus' son-in-law who
did not marry Cyrus' daughter, Atossa, and rule as king until after
Cyrus' death and after two other kings ruled a short time after Cyrus.

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Nonsense! Darius is who killed Bel Shazzar and conquered Babylon 7yrs before Cyrus conquered him. It is proven in Dan 5:30-31. Darius is a Median as vs 31 states, and Cyrus is Persian.

Why don't you people do your homework?

Jeshu said:

When the word comes into our life it often causes thunders (and massive earthquakes) to happen. I understand this part to mean that we are not allowed to prepare ourselves for meeting the Word here, just as the apostle John was not prepared, because it is a rather private affair what God's light exposes in our hearts. We may know that the little scroll of the angel will have a sickening effect on our flesh as well, but still nourish our spirit, just as it did the apostle John.

I suppose the best way to understand this is what would happen inside your inner dwelling place when the truth of God, about who you really are yourself, suddenly entered? His truth will be as sweet as honey to our spirit, but the deeds in our flesh will be in for a bit of a shock, that is what I know to be true about the Word here.

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Are you serious?

precepts said:

Are you serious?

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Very much so! Our salvation is very serious business indeed.

You must have heard that the word is spiritual and is written for the spiritually discerning and not for anyone else? 1 Corinthians 2:6-16. I know for sure that when Jesus comes to live in our hearts - we face seven thunderclaps - among other things prophesied in the word - the first thunderclap being the death of the lawless one who ruled our hearts at the time of Jesus' appearing. (see Amos 5 and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 for example.)

Try to imagine this brother. For years and years the world's ways and especially religion has you believe all kind of lies about God's Word - theories, speculations and predictions of men (mainly,) and then suddenly the One you have been waiting for stands in front of you and you finally know the Truth very personally. (John 14:23-24, Hebrews 4:12-13, Revelation 3:19-22)

Sure you who love the Lord you will be overjoyed and invite Him into your heart and and have dinner with Him, but then sin dwelling secretly (and not so secretly) within you shall not fare so well. (See Revelation chapter 2 and 3 with regards to your faith relationship with Jesus or chapters 16, 17,18 and the last part of chapter 19 with regards to your worldly existence for example.)

For when the Truth Dawns then the kingdom of lies which ruled us for so long will take a last stand, just as has been described in The Word so long ago. This happens very much on a spiritual level for the power of the Word is very spiritual indeed.

Try to think about your personal sin dwelling in your heart and then meeting up Jesus like that. How will you fare when you are often arrogant but you see The truth is always humble? How will you fare when the truth is always just but you are often unjust? How would you fare if you are lustful and see that the truth doesn't love at all like that? Or how will you fare if you see that He is completely transparent - His soul a crystal sea - when your soul resembles the blackest sea? What about if Jesus has no judgment in His heart at all but your heart is still full of it? What about if His honesty addresses your dishonesty, how do you think you who lied so often will go - when the father of lies within you - is cast into the pit and you find that his offspring within you are all numbered to perish?

Now I'm not saying that if you repented of your sins that you've got anything to fear - but the evildoers behind your sin, who gave you life in such wrongs, certainly will have to - for the wicked are judged to hell - such Thunderclaps when the Scroll reveals the chosen celebrating God's glory, and sin in us begins to see they were the goats all along? For God loved Jacob but hated Esau it best we all understand that to be true within our hearts as well. Matthew 24:36-44, Matthew 25:31-46.

Jesus has taken me through the book of Revelation (and many other books of prophecy in the O.T ,) many times over to show me how true the word of God really is. Not a stroke of a pen will be left undone within our inner world of being that is for sure, for we find life in the enduring Word of God and not anywhere else. 1 Peter 1:23-25

This is the ultimate truth of God's Word everything written in there is there for us to find eternal life in for only God's Word endures forever. If in part of our lives we haven't got life in God's truth then we will perish like that and if we have life on the wrong side of God's Word living within us then that shall be judged according to deed. The goats and sheep are very much alive within us, that much I have found out to be the truth in my relationship with The word.

I do hope you will soon meet up with The Word in your life as well and survive the great tribulation that is coming your way in your sinful self, for it is true what the bible says - it is very hard for a sinner to be saved - so the quicker we start the sanctification process the sooner we will rule beside Him over our life in wrong - time and again.

Peace

(a poem describing the death of lawless ones within me at the time of His revealing.)



Meeting Jesus.

Inability to change forces me to look Jesus in the eye.
The blushing shame from my own nakedness creeps.
Lucky I know the accuser is merely the father of the lie.
Well now a harvest this fallen angel reaps.
Come see the weeds inside my heart to be burnt!

"Can you remember times of wanton greed?"
Awakened, I hear my faithful Saviour speak
"When you hated from my love to feed?"
In His kind words the fire of His mercy peaks,
I watch my greed tumble out of my psyche.

A fiery ending is the best way to illustrate,
the fate my inner greed meets on his tailspin out.
Utterly rejected and in a most miserable state.
Clear knowledge what his punishment is about,
This past ruler is stripped of his powers.

"Those times you in selfishness did feed?"
The perspicacity of His view zeros in.
His voice gentle, sounding so sweet.
Still I watch my biggest I crumble within.
Tumbling down the tunnel without ending.

"But my beloved child why did you follow?"
His urgent words bring me back from sure calamity.
"How much narcissistic thinking did you swallow?
Come, just let it flow out of your personality,
take on a humble vision of self like me."

Gratefully I take His gift offered to me.
A humble heart inside my chest to throb.
Truly from greedy selfishness free to be.
My dear Heavenly Friend please never stop,
fill my every sense of being with Yourself.

Never did I deserve this.
Your goodness in my heart to meet.
I have done so much amiss.
Yet in loving care You still greet.
Oh how I long forever in You to be.


And a poem giving a bird's eye view of what happened inside of me spiritually when The Word came to dwell into my heart.

Armageddon.

In my inner world life died everywhere,
famine taking what sword had left behind.
Brim and hailstones flattening what stood up,
no escape from the carnage I could find.

Awed I saw Jesus the evil fight,
turning my world into a battleground.
I saw billows of smoke rising up high,
rolling thunder through my world rebound.

I watched as scorpions paraded my soul,
stinging those godless in their lust.
Massive grasshoppers devouring all my good,
fierce horses trampling me to dust.

I saw much of my greenery burn-up,
fleets of cargo ships sadly perish.
Daily trade coming to an abrupt hold,
ungodly rulers wrong to cherish.

I saw the Dragon reigning his subjects,
watched the numbered die like flies.
I heard the false prophet's constant lying,
demons smearing God's love with lies.

It was the blood drinking prostitute,
which flabbergasted me the most.
Unfaithfulness killing God's chosen,
with fiery death she was deposed.

I saw my world's kingdom going down,
ruling Babylon fall in one day.
With two thirds of my world wiped out,
I watched true Peace coming to stay.

And so watching God's own safely at home,
I finally let my tears run dry.
Seeing Jesus arising on the clouds,
I joined the Hallelujah cry.

Jeshu said:

Very much so! Our salvation is very serious business indeed.

You must have heard that the word is spiritual and is written for the spiritually discerning and not for anyone else? 1 Corinthians 2:6-16. I know for sure that when Jesus comes to live in our hearts - we face seven thunderclaps - among other things prophesied in the word - the first thunderclap being the death of the lawless one who ruled our hearts at the time of Jesus' appearing. (see Amos 5 and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 for example.)

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First, what is a "thunderclap"? And, secondly, where is this found in the scriptures? Nowhere.

Jeshu said:

Try to imagine this brother. For years and years the world's ways and especially religion has you believe all kind of lies about God's Word - theories, speculations and predictions of men (mainly,) and then suddenly the One you have been waiting for stands in front of you and you finally know the Truth very personally. (John 14:23-24, Hebrews 4:12-13, Revelation 3:19-22)

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And this has been your experience in or out of the body?

Jeshu said:

Sure you who love the Lord you will be overjoyed and invite Him into your heart and and have dinner with Him, but then sin dwelling secretly (and not so secretly) within you shall not fare so well. (See Revelation chapter 2 and 3 with regards to your faith relationship with Jesus or chapters 16, 17,18 and the last part of chapter 19 with regards to your worldly existence for example.)

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I think you are over spiritualizing, what I call "the Emperor's New Clothes Christianity." I can't see where you're coming from, and I can't see where you're going.

Jeshu said:

For when the Truth Dawns then the kingdom of lies which ruled us for so long will take a last stand, just as has been described in The Word so long ago. This happens very much on a spiritual level for the power of the Word is very spiritual indeed.

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Yeah, but it seems like you're creating your own doctrine, your own gospel on spirituality.

Jeshu said:

Try to think about your personal sin dwelling in your heart and then meeting up Jesus like that. How will you fare when you are often arrogant but you see The truth is always humble? How will you fare when the truth is always just but you are often unjust? How would you fare if you are lustful and see that the truth doesn't love at all like that? Or how will you fare if you see that He is completely transparent - His soul a crystal sea - when your soul resembles the blackest sea? What about if Jesus has no judgment in His heart at all but your heart is still full of it? What about if His honesty addresses your dishonesty, how do you think you who lied so often will go - when the father of lies within you - is cast into the pit and you find that his offspring within you are all numbered to perish?

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I guess I would first have to be ignorant of the fact man being God's temple isn't found anywhere in the old testament and that Revelation says God dwells with man and is the temple in the new Shalem. I would have to be ignorant of that to think the way you're thinking.

Plus, you are ignoring the commandments given to the gentiles when they first received the gospel. All the commandments hang on love. They wouldn't be going into what man lies in their hearts, etc..

Jeshu said:

Now I'm not saying that if you repented of your sins that you've got anything to fear - but the evildoers behind your sin, who gave you life in such wrongs, certainly will have to - for the wicked are judged to hell - such Thunderclaps when the Scroll reveals the chosen celebrating God's glory, and sin in us begins to see they were the goats all along? For God loved Jacob but hated Esau it best we all understand that to be true within our hearts as well. Matthew 24:36-44, Matthew 25:31-46.

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Are you saying in a round about way that God is black?

Jeshu said:

Jesus has taken me through the book of Revelation (and many other books of prophecy in the O.T ,) many times over to show me how true the word of God really is. Not a stroke of a pen will be left undone within our inner world of being that is for sure, for we find life in the enduring Word of God and not anywhere else. 1 Peter 1:23-25

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So, you have all the answers to the mysteries that divide the Church into isms and schisms? since Jesus has taken you through?

Jeshu said:

This is the ultimate truth of God's Word everything written in there is there for us to find eternal life in for only God's Word endures forever. If in part of our lives we haven't got life in God's truth then we will perish like that and if we have life on the wrong side of God's Word living within us then that shall be judged according to deed. The goats and sheep are very much alive within us, that much I have found out to be the truth in my relationship with The word.

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Do you know what the Word says about blemishes in the NT? which separates the sheep from the goats, in the NT? It's a very interesting subject. I did a thread on it once. Nobody liked it because the description of the blemishes fit many a popular televangelists. I don't think most readers pick up on it.

Jeshu said:

I do hope you will soon meet up with The Word in your life as well and survive the great tribulation that is coming your way in your sinful self, for it is true what the bible says - it is very hard for a sinner to be saved - so the quicker we start the sanctification process the sooner we will rule beside Him over our life in wrong - time and again.

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I think searching the scriptures is more important than spirituality.

Interesting poems, though.

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AlasBabylon said:

It's happening NOW !

The 70 year OT Babylonian period relates to the NT 70 year period
beginning when the Edomite Herod conquered Jerusalem in 37BC and
Rome declared him King of Judea... to the crucifixion and resurrection
of Christ about 33AD. Cyrus who liberated Israel from Babylon was a type
of Christ. He was even called God's anointed in Isaiah 45. Furthermore,
I believe we are in a third repeat pattern now... and have been since the
end of WW2... and if I am right about that timing... we are in year 70 now
and the return of Christ is at hand. Of course, I might be off in the timing...
but the current repeat pattern still exists now... we are in it !!

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1967 + 70 = 2037

I think you're early to apply a 70 years.

I extend it out to at the latest, 1967 + 120 = 2087... "when you see leaves on the fig tree, this generation shall not pass away before the end" [paraphrasing].

But I think a 70 year timing from 1967 sounds applicable too.

1948 + 70 = 2018

I think 2018 could have been it too, if the church had begun to fulfill the ministry God intended back in the 80's and had successfully performed it. I don't think we did, however. I think the church stumbled and this forced a delay in the timetables.

Until the church does the full measure of the job God intended for us, in my view the 2nd coming is delayed indefinitely. Come 2087 something has to budge by then, though even if the church is failing. What it then means is God hid more in scripture so that we're interpreting the fig tree verse wrong... or something I did not think of... Israel destroyed again perhaps. That would be my guess.

Either the church fulfills its mission in the time allotted, 1 generation after the fig tree gives leaves, or there wont be a fig tree anymore with leaves and this wasn't the timing. So the fig tree (Israel) could even last beyond 2087, but it would have to be destroyed eventually, and then rebuilt again so the Christian church could fulfill its mission.

God's plan is contingent upon Christ's bride completing her prophetic call in scripture. God can't annul that anymore than his covenant with Israel, because the prophecies are based on God's grace and provision, not our ability to uphold the covenant. Only unbelief stops it, but we shouldn't yield to that.

I don't think God's timing is being held up by humans. I assume you don't believe in Election...