4 women in Revelation, who/what are they?

keltoi said:

In various threads I have been a part of things come down to Mary (Jesus' mum) and 1 verse is always used to say she is the Mother of God. That verse is Revelation 12:1 which says "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars;". From this I, and other people, are supposed to acknowledge that Mary is 1. The Mother of God (notice the capital letters), and that she is the Queen of Heaven. Because this aspect of faith has taken a few threads off their original intention I decided to open this thread to, not only, get a a range of opinions but also to discuss the other 3 women in the Book of Revelation.

A couple of simple requirements for this thread.
1. The use of scripture to back up any definite assertions is mandatory. Don't just say Mary is the Queen of Heaven and not post scripture to back it up.
2. Use scripture in context. Posting 1 verse and then claiming you are correct shows a lack of knowledge. Use the Bible to support your assertions or just say "It is my belief but I cannot provide Biblical proof of it".

So who are the 4 women in Revelation
1. Revelation 2:20 talks about Jezebel. Is this a single person or does this woman represent something else?
This chapter is about conditions in the church in Thyatira, and like all the seven churches stated in Rev. 2 & 3, they prophetically speak of the Church in all ages down through history ---each church represents an age of time and conditions therein: Thyatira speaks of christendom in about AD 500 - 1500, which is the time of the tyranny of the RC religion. Historically Jezebel as the wicked wife of King Ahaz caused the slaughter of saints of God (like unto the tyranny of the RC religion against the reformers who pressed to have the Holy Scripture obeyed). Many preachers during the Reformation time were slaughtered by that religion for preaching Bible over the papacy rule and abuses of the Roman Catholic Religion.

2. Revelation 12:1-2 talks about a pregnant woman who is clothed in the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of 12 stars. Catholics suggest this is Mary, my thoughts are this is Israel. Yes, this speaks of Israel as she brought forth the Christ of God, and was attacked by Satan.

3. Revelation 17:3-6 talks about the woman of Babylon. Some say this woman is Rome, others say it is Islam, others still suggest it is the USA. I don't think it is any of these but something that is yet to be noticed. It speaks of Rome as a type of Babylon in its religious order and rule, and also world commerce control, and shows how it will be overthrown by the Beast (Satan arising in V. 8) and ruling on earth to destroy the religion and its powers, and have full sway over mankind during the Tribulation time.

4. Revelation 21:9-10, the Wife of the Lamb. To me there is no doubt the Lamb is Jesus and the Wife is his church. Yes, this is when the Lord Jesus with His Bride returns to the earth to reign a thousand years, till His Father makes a "new earth" with His covenant people of Israel forever. Before this the Lord Jesus had translated (raptured) His Bride up to Himself before the wrath of God during the Tribulation. After the Millennium (thousand years) of reign, Jesus will take His Bride and return to Heaven forever, and restored Israel will be God's earthly people forever. One can write me privately for more details if sincerely interested.

Now over to anyone who wishes to participate. The reference verses are provided for you to look up and to get the context of. Remember this is a discussion that usage of Scripture is paramount.[/QUOTE

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keltoi said:

And your use of scripture is where?
I know what Revelation is and how to look at it, I am wondering what others think and can they back up what they think with scripture.
BTW not all of Revelation is of things to come, some of it is of things that are in the past Revelation 12 is an example.

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