Is the Catholic Church what Jesus intended?

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You see, Having done a lot of reading about the Catholic faith, Jesus, God etc i can honestly say that i am sure the Catholic Church is nowhere near what Jesus intended! I dont mind saying that! Look at the church today and you tell me it is what Jesus would have wanted???
I thought this was interesting... because a Catholic said it. Well Catholics, is the Catholic Church what Jesus intended?
 
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It's what Jesus intended in how the sacraments are still in the Church, and the teachings in Catholicism that have always been set in stone have not been officially corrupted. However, the modern heresies and the general apostasy of society (especially in the West) is not what Jesus intended for us, but He foretold that it was going to come.
 
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No. I think the Catholic church has changed massively since the day of its birth. I think it is not how Jesus saw his church evolving. It is corrupt. It has gone way off path. Yes, i am a Catholic but, for me the truth is that Jesus is the son of the true living God. I think the church has a lot of things that are hidden, It has a lot to answer for!
 
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God is all knowing and exists outside of time and space. So, God is not confined to finite matters, such as, time and space. God knew all things before he created mankind.

To answer the question, God knew all and in scripture, God said it is Good.
 
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This is a very loaded question/topic, but I will do the best to sum up my views. Yes, the Catholic Church is indeed what Christ intended. Christ commissioned the apostles to spread his message across the world, he granted them authority to be his voice on earth (Mark 16, Matthew 28, Matthew 18:18). The apostles used their authority to teach people the good news of the lord, and to establish an earthly church, the Catholic Church. The epistles of the Holy Bible attest to the fact that an earthly episcopacy was indeed established by the apostle; it consisted of bishops, deacons and presbyters. It is very close to the system that we still employ today.

So yes, the Catholic Church is what Christ intended...but truthfully, we have fallen short of what we should be. Much corruption has entered the church over the years, and in many ways The Church has lost track of its mission. The mission of the Church should be to educate people about the orthodox Christian faith, and to employ them to live their lives in Christ. All across the world, and especially in the West, many children learn more about Catholic culture then they do about faith. That is a problem.

Perhaps a bigger problem is that the church is not unified. Christ never intended for his apostles to treat one an other as enemies, he intended them to work together. Today, Christians prey on one another as though they are a bands of wolves. The warning stated in Acts 20:29 has come true, the Catholic Church is tied up and robbers plunder sheep from our house (Mark 3:27). We need to focus on faith, and forget about politics...and we need to show the world that we are the universal church, by reuniting with all other orthodox Christians. True unity will lead to the optimal version of the Catholic Church. When we are united, secular and unorthodox forces will not be able to prevail against the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
 
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This is a very loaded question/topic, but I will do the best to sum up my views. Yes, the Catholic Church is indeed what Christ intended. Christ commissioned the apostles to spread his message across the world, he granted them authority to be his voice on earth (Mark 16, Matthew 28, Matthew 18:18). The apostles used their authority to teach people the good news of the lord, and to establish an earthly church, the Catholic Church. The epistles of the Holy Bible attest to the fact that an earthly episcopacy was indeed established by the apostle; it consisted of bishops, deacons and presbyters. It is very close to the system that we still employ today.

So yes, the Catholic Church is what Christ intended...but truthfully, we have fallen short of what we should be. Much corruption has entered the church over the years, and in many ways The Church has lost track of its mission. The mission of the Church should be to educate people about the orthodox Christian faith, and to employ them to live their lives in Christ. All across the world, and especially in the West, many children learn more about Catholic culture then they do about faith. That is a problem.

Perhaps a bigger problem is that the church is not unified. Christ never intended for his apostles to treat one an other as enemies, he intended them to work together. Today, Christians prey on one another as though they are a bands of wolves. The warning stated in Acts 20:29 has come true, the Catholic Church is tied up and robbers plunder sheep from our house (Mark 3:27). We need to focus on faith, and forget about politics...and we need to show the world that we are the universal church, by reuniting with all other orthodox Christians. True unity will lead to the optimal version of the Catholic Church. When we are united, secular and unorthodox forces will not be able to prevail against the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
I agree with you... The Divine commission, we have failed misribly.
 
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NO it is not, it is religion. Christianity is a personal relationship with Christ Jesus.
Christ came to end religion.
I was raised RCC, but at age 13 stated to see the fallacy, how it made claims in violation of the word of God.
The Pope infallible, NOT! Calling priests holy and father, NO only God is Holy and Father. Penance, the need to be forgiven by a man in a booth to take communion, praying to saints (idolatry), denying Jesus had brothers in some strange need to maintain Mary's virginity to make her holy. I could go on. NO, it is the opposite of what Christ Jesus intended.
This is OBOB... I was asking Catholics this question. But thanks for the input.
 
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Calling priests holy and father, NO only God is Holy and Father.

Nowhere in scripture does it say that a human being (or in this specific case, a priest) cannot be holy, we are indwelled with the holy spirit and commissioned to holiness by Jesus Christ.
 
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Do you think Jesus is God?

Hi,
You were not answered on this yet. Yes, Jesus is God, but maybe not the way you think, and maybe it is precisely the way you think. I don't know actually, as you could have meant is Jesus Christ God The Father, or God The Holy Spirit, rather than is Jesus God The Son and therefore God just like the other Two are God and all Three of Them together are God.
LOVE,
...Mary., .... .
 
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I thought this was interesting... because a Catholic said it. Well Catholics, is the Catholic Church what Jesus intended?
He handed the keys to Peter and said 'Yep - you cant go wrong - cos what you bind or loose - its gonna be the same in Heaven.'

And essentially the Pope is led by the Holy Spirit - who wouldnt allow anything to get jammed up or go sour.

Etc
 
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Nowhere in scripture does it say that a human being (or in this specific case, a priest) cannot be holy, we are indwelled with the holy spirit and commissioned to holiness by Jesus Christ.

Romans 3:10 As the Scriptures say, "No one is righteous--not even one." If none of us are righteous we surely are not Holy. Mark 10:18, even Jesus denied being good, "Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked. "Only God is truly good.
 
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Romans 3:10 As the Scriptures say, "No one is righteous--not even one." If none of us are righteous we surely are not Holy. Mark 10:18, even Jesus denied being good, "Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked. "Only God is truly good.
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