Economics and the Iraq War

I was just listening to the radio.  Paul Krugman, a professor of intl affairs and economics at Princeton and a correspondent for the New York Times was being interviewed.

He was talking about economic effects of the Iraq war.  His conclusion was that the war itself wasn't going to have much effect either way.

But the interesting items he pointed out were about Turkey. Remember Turkey, and how they wanted an aid package from the USA?  Well, apparently it's about $6 billion in cash, and some loan guarantees later on.

Priorities will shine through -  $6 billion is more than President Bush requested for homeland security.  So we're actually spending more money to bribe Turkey, than we're spending on equipment for firefighters, paramedics and police who have to respond to terrorist threats, anthrax scares, etc.  So the individual states are not purchasing the necessary equipment or are overspending (and thus raising taxes) to pay for this new obligation.

Priorities, part 2 - the $6 billion that the individual states didn't get for homeland security?  Well, that's also a microscopic fraction of the $1.74 trillion dollars in tax cuts that Bush has proposed, the vast majority of which will go to the top 1% of the country.

Timing is everything - Turkey also requested the $6 billion in cash immediately.  Evidently, they have reason to doubt this administration's reputation and aren't willing to let the Bush administration pay over time in installments.  
 

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If I were a small struggling country with a U.N. vote, I would absolutely vote against the war. For it is a guarantee that our Government would be there soon, and in complete disregard to the needs of it's own citizens, with either a stick or a open check book. What would I have to lose?
 
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Estimates I've seen on the cost of this war plus the rebuilding we're claiming range from 100 billion through 1.9 trillion. (Best case to worse case).

Everything I've ever seen indicates spending estimates are almost always hugely optimistic, so I'd imagine 100 billion is (realistically) too low even for a best case scenario.
 
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Today at 03:44 PM Morat said this in Post #5 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=677811#post677811)

Estimates I've seen on the cost of this war plus the rebuilding we're claiming range from 100 billion through 1.9 trillion. (Best case to worse case).

Everything I've ever seen indicates spending estimates are almost always hugely optimistic, so I'd imagine 100 billion is (realistically) too low even for a best case scenario.

I doubt that the US will pay for reconstruction. Iraq has oil that we can use to pay for it. The administration might consider using the oil to pay for the war, too, but that will probably appear too imperialistic for the US people and the rest of the world to accept.
 
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Yesterday at 10:04 PM fragmentsofdreams said this in Post #6 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=677862#post677862)

I doubt that the US will pay for reconstruction. Iraq has oil that we can use to pay for it. The administration might consider using the oil to pay for the war, too, but that will probably appear too imperialistic for the US people and the rest of the world to accept.

I think the last thing we're going to do after Iraq is routed and Saddam is ousted, is plant our flag on their oil reserves and claim "dibs." We're sponsoring Afghanistan, which is far from settled, and Iraq will be no different, and in the mean time we'll be paying for the war and the recovery with less taxes? How is this going to work?
 
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Attention George Bush:

For $1 billion, plus expenses not to exceed $25 billion, I will personally arrange a regime change in Iraq. I will accept $25,500,000,000 up front to cover expenses, with the remaining $500,000,000 to be paid in twenty easy installments of $25,000,000 per year. Any portion of the expense payment that is unused will be happily refunded after the insurrection.

I will guarantee a regime change within one year of the date of the first payment, and guarantee that the new leadership in Iraq will remain friendly to the U.S. for at least ten years, with discounts pro-rated if Iraq becomes hostile to the U.S. prior to that time.

I am also accepting offers from other national governments who wish to secure interests in Iraq, and from anti-war groups who would like to secure the health and lives of Iraqi civilians at a rate of $1 per civilian life spared.

PM me for payment details. Thank you.
 
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Today at 02:04 PM fragmentsofdreams said this in Post #6

I doubt that the US will pay for reconstruction. Iraq has oil that we can use to pay for it. The administration might consider using the oil to pay for the war, too, but that will probably appear too imperialistic for the US people and the rest of the world to accept.

It seems to me that if Bush was worried about appearing imperialistic....well, you can finish the sentence yourself.  :rolleyes:
 
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