Third Temple comes from Ezekiel 40-47

Jon Anon said:

First we need to establish who created everything!(JESUS DID)





If we look at the servant chapters of Isaiah in the 40's we see a Jacob and an Israel...these are the two witnesses hidden in scripture...because we see verse 1 in Isaiah 42 is speaking of the servant but verse 5 is speaking of Jesus(the one who created everthing)
Col 1:16:



13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


John 1:




1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Blue the servant
RED Jesus




Isaiah 42:

42Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking [1] flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, [2] till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. 8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. 9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.


These two are hidden as if it is speaking of nations but it is speaking of individuals
1 from the line of judah
the other from the line of Joseph....which is the division of the Jacob/Israel generational blessing for the end-time witnesses


1 chron 5:2:
King James Bible
For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's



Isaiah 44:1:


King James Bible
Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:


Isaiah 41:8:



King James Bible
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.




Isaiah 45:4:


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For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.




The reason these two are chosen is because there are two families of Israel according to Jeremiah 33:24:



King James Bible
Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.




WHEN YOU HAVE A FIRSTBORN IN THE BIBLE...THEY RECEIVE A DOUBLE PORTION...THESE ARE THE TWO WITNESSES...ONE FROM THE LINE OF JUDAH AND ONE FORM THE LINE OF JOSEPH OR AS THE JEWS KNOW THEM MESSIAH BEN JOSEPH AND MESSIAH BEN DAVID THE TWO WITNESSES....these two are in the volume of the book and are hidden in the shadow of the nations of Jacob and Israel and in the shadow of the firstborn Jesus.......

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Notice Acts 13:47 tells us Paul and barnabas were called to be a light to the gentiles that they should be for salvatin unto the ends of the earth(quoting Isaiah in their time...this will also be fullfilled by the two witnesses Jacob and Israel during the entimes:
Paul and Barnabas fulfillment
Acts 13:47
King James Bible
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

endtime fulfiillment by two withness Jacob and Israel
Isaiah 49:6:

King James Bible
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

"You mean from the Servant Song in Isaiah? Who bears up our weakness, sin and iniquity?"


No I mean exactly what I said .... I don't need a song

What are you implying?

Straightshot said:

"You mean from the Servant Song in Isaiah? Who bears up our weakness, sin and iniquity?"


No I mean exactly what I said .... I don't need a song

What are you implying?

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All references to "My servant David" find their root in Isaiah's Song of the Servant (42-58) where it is quite clear that Christ is the Servant, he is pierced for our iniquities, crushed for our sin, the chastisement that brought us peace was upon Him.

Jon Anon said:

Notice Acts 13:47 tells us Paul and barnabas were called to be a light to the gentiles that they should be for salvatin unto the ends of the earth(quoting Isaiah in their time...this will also be fullfilled by the two witnesses Jacob and Israel during the entimes:
Paul and Barnabas fulfillment
Acts 13:47
King James Bible
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

endtime fulfiillment by two withness Jacob and Israel
Isaiah 49:6:

King James Bible
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

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Key:

Blue= witness 1
Pink= witness 2
Red =Jesus

We know Jesus is the redeemer and King of Israel therefore we know he is speaking in verse 6 therfore he is not the servant Jacob and Israel being spoken of in Isaiah 44:




Isaiah 44:

1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:
2 thus saith the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesh'urun, whom I have chosen.
3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my Spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:
4 and they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the watercourses.
5 One shall say, I am the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE]'s; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE], and surname himself by the name of Israel.
6 ¶ Thus saith the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; Is. 48.12 · Rev. 1.17 ; 22.13 and besides me there is no God.

Jon Anon said:

Notice Acts 13:47 tells us Paul and barnabas were called to be a light to the gentiles that they should be for salvatin unto the ends of the earth(quoting Isaiah in their time...this will also be fullfilled by the two witnesses Jacob and Israel during the entimes:
Paul and Barnabas fulfillment
Acts 13:47
King James Bible
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

endtime fulfiillment by two withness Jacob and Israel
Isaiah 49:6:

King James Bible
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

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Key:

Blue= witness 1
Pink= witness 2
Red =Jesus

We know Jesus is the redeemer and King of Israel therefore we know he is speaking in verse 6 therfore he is not the servant Jacob and Israel being spoken of in Isaiah 44:




Isaiah 44:

1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:
2 thus saith the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesh'urun, whom I have chosen.
3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my Spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:
4 and they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the watercourses.
5 One shall say, I am the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE]'s; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE], and surname himself by the name of Israel.
6 ¶ Thus saith the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the L[SIZE=-1]ORD[/SIZE] of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; Is. 48.12 · Rev. 1.17 ; 22.13 and besides me there is no God.


one will call himself jacob and the other will call himself Israel according to verse 5

"All references to "My servant David" find their root in Isaiah's Song of the Servant (42-58) where it is quite clear that Christ is the Servant, he is pierced for our iniquities, crushed for our sin, the chastisement that brought us peace was upon Him."


Well you are scripture picking

The Lord is also the Creator God Himself .... do you know this?

Do you know that Jesus is both God and human [John 14:8-9]

There are no contradictions in the scriptures of His Word

So explain your application

Jon Anon said:

Blue the servant
RED Jesus

42Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking [1] flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, [2] till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. 8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. 9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.


These two are hidden as if it is speaking of nations but it is speaking of individuals
1 from the line of judah
the other from the line of Joseph....which is the division of the Jacob/Israel generational blessing for the end-time witnesses

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You're exegesis of this passage doesn't take into account 49:1-50:11 where the Servant becomes someone distinct from Jacob/Israel and it is his identification as the "Arm of the Lord" in 51:9-11 that makes it clear that he is Divine.

Straightshot said:

"All references to "My servant David" find their root in Isaiah's Song of the Servant (42-58) where it is quite clear that Christ is the Servant, he is pierced for our iniquities, crushed for our sin, the chastisement that brought us peace was upon Him."


Well you are scripture picking

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Am I?

The Lord is also the Creator God Himself .... do you know this?

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I wouldn't be allowed to post here if I didn't

Do you know that Jesus is both God and human [John 14:8-9]

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As is the Servant/Arm of the Lord...

There are no contradictions in the scriptures of His Word

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I see no contradictions, except if someone were to try and insert some disunity in regards to the Ecclesiology of the Old and New Testaments, but I don't do that, Dispensationalism does though...

So explain your application

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I'm pretty sure it is apparent from my recent posts.

Do you think that the Lord can be His own arm?

duolos said:

You're exegesis of this passage doesn't take into account 49:1-50:11 where the Servant becomes someone distinct from Jacob/Israel and it is his identification as the "Arm of the Lord" in 51:9-11 that makes it clear that he is Divine.

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The two witnesses will sit on the left and right of Jesus in the new heaven and new earth and will have the firstborn double portion privileges(one from the line of judah and the other from the line of joseph) so certainly it will appear as if they are divine

Don't read any of these passages without the NT usage in mind first, then go on to finalize. They are Christocentric, ie, amplifying and magnifying what occurred in Christ. In terms of literal vs figurative, they are closer to the figurative end so long as you mean in terms of the reality that Christ has brought.

This is the problem of doing eschatology today. So few people realize what the reality is in Christ that has replaced the shadow of the law and Judaism. Prophecy was also a shadow. We don't go back to that level of things, we are to remain in Christ the new lamb, temple, sacrifice, water, bread, exodus, Passover, etc.

The servant known as Jacob will appear before the servant knows as Israel and will arrive September 23 2015

You will know him because he will be greatly disfigured and bringing a message of repentance and destruction coming to america!:

This is the servant of Isaiah 52:

13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently , he shall be exalted and extolled , and be very high .
14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:
15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see ; and that which they had not heard shall they consider .

Straightshot said:

Do you think that the Lord can be His own arm?

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Are you a modalist?

Jon Anon said:

The servant known as Jacob will appear before the servant knows as Israel and will arrive September 23 2015

You will know him because he will be greatly disfigured and bringing a message of repentance and destruction coming to america!:

This is the servant of Isaiah 52:

13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently , he shall be exalted and extolled , and be very high .
14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:
15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see ; and that which they had not heard shall they consider .

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No, you're taking something that is clearly about Christ and making it not of Christ

duolos said:

No, you're taking something that is clearly about Christ and making it not of Christ

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Christ simply means "anointed" and in the end there are two "anointed" which are hidden and represent the two offices of Jesus kingship and priesthood on earth as Jesus will rule in heaven..just as the jews had a hard time understanding the purpose of Jesus....so will the christians have a hard time understanding the purpose of the two witnesses....the purpose of the two witnesses is to unite the 12 tribes once again and to have dominion and rule in the millenium one in charge of the kingship and the other in charge of the levitic priesthood ezekiel tells us will be in place as Jesus rules from heaven

"Are you a modalist?"

Ha Ha .... get real Duo

I am way out in front of the modals

Are you a duoist?

The old trinity vs unitarian dual is a total joke .... my dog is bigger than your dog battle

Nothing but a banter over propriety

The Lord knows who He is [John 14:8-9] .... does His answer bother you?

PrattPratt said:

The Third Temple is coming.

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Nope, pure fantasy.

The Temple Institute has already completed the altar, and the red heifer was born last year.

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So? Who cares except some American Christians who have misunderstood the Scripture so as to believe that there needs to be a new temple. Rubbish.

Rubbish now .... but realized after Armageddon

Jon Anon said:

Psalms 2 "The king" .....showing the kingship of the sceptre witness David (Judah). This chapter is about the anointed king David. The whole world hates the two witnesses and this chapter tells us why. The reason is people don't like the idea of anybody having dominion over them, it makes them angry and shuts them down. Verse 3 tells us the kings and rulers want to break the bands and cast away the chords of the lord and his anointed as people who don't have God in their life want nobody higher than them as they are their own god looking to rule their own kingdom

This chapter is about the sceptre(the kingship of David)

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Unfortunately, this is one of the books of Psalms, that isn't explicitly addressed to David. Jesus revealed the "Third Temple of Ezekiel", and at that time he revealed the identities of the "Two Witnesses", they were "Moses and Elijah". When the Apostle Peter understood that this is the "Third Temple of Ezekiel", he says, paraphrasing: "Do I build tombs out of these Temple Stones" (Luke 9:31-33)? What is the Apostle Peter teaching? The Apostle Peter attempted to "Count Angels", like Daniel counted in his parable of "Seventy Weeks".

Otherwise you are correct, about the "heathen", or "harlot/wicked Man" of Judah, being a witness under the Authority of the Antichrist ... where the Gospel is replaced with the "Song of Moses", stated in Rev. 15:3. Which coincidentally Peter plucked out 153 Fish, paralleling the 153 Days that identifies with the "Heart of Judah" in Revelations. In which case, the "Cords of Psalms 2" is the "Song of Moses", The "bands" being the known universe.

Jon Anon said:

verse 9 shows us David the man-child ruling with a rod of iron on earth while Jesus rules from heaven
Revelation 12:5
King James Bible
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

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Did the Holy Spirit come as a serpent, and say to David, "Here pick me up by the tail and deliver the multitude"? Or did the Holy Spirit do this with Moses?

Jon Anon said:

Rev 12:5
King James 2000 Bible
And she brought forth a male child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

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Why is the Antichrist called a "Man Child"? Exodus 4:10, says Moses was speaking like a baby. That is why he is called a "Man Child". This has nothing to do with the body of flesh, but everything to do with the "utterances from the Holy Spirit", or the "utterances from the Seven Thunders", God told John in revelations he would reserve for the Antichrist in the confirmation of the covenant. (it is a snare to place any confidence in the chemical or electric or other levels of force used against the Antichrist, paraded by those facing the end of their lives).

Jon Anon said:

David is the "KING"
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20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

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David cannot be the Antichrist, because the "Covenant of David" is broken after the 3 Days of Darkness are finished, just like you've stated.

Counting Angels, when is David Slain as one of the 70 Angels of Daniel 9? Since David reigns in Heaven not on Earth, for a short period to Satisfy the Language of Revelation?

DANIEL 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
I KINGS 11:34 Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:

69th Angel is Slain when the 3 Days of Darkness is Finished. David is described as this Angel, that is the 69th Week of Daniel 9. The 70th Angel is the Antichrist, God kills him when the judgment program is completed at the end of the 150 days of Judah's redemption. I've said a few things about Angel Counting in the recent past ... ... ... ... Jesus gives us 42 Generations, Abraham to David 14, David to Babylon 14, and Babylon to Christ 14 ... ... ... ... these 42 Slain Angels are the 42 Days of the Great Tribulation. God does not kill them at that time, but this parallels a portion of the gospel. That is how the gospel corrects the 40 Days of Jonah, and the 40 Days of Jesus's Resurrection, for the Great Tribulation: "Summer is Nigh, the "Temple Stones" of the Great Tribulation Fall" ... ... ... ... 7/15/2015 the Peak of Summer + 42 Days = 9/13/2015 the first day of the 3 Days of Darkness. We do not know the Age of the Antichrist to correspond the 12,000 Days of Joseph to 9/13/2015 to complete our understanding, so we must keep watch for this individual to be revealed more so as the Antichrist, in the near future.

(The Apostles counted 42 Angels Slain at the time of Jesus's Testimony ... ... ... ... going forward from there in the gospel would be difficult ... ... ... ... even though some people like Nostradamus had not been born yet, the genealogies of the bible can count their heavenly names, then we would be hard pressed to find that connection directly ... but the 70th Angel of Luke in his genealogy is Joseph if we count backwards, Joseph identifies with the Antichrist, anyway, we have a good base understanding to address the gospel ... ... ... ... and a 10 hour walk on either tuesday or wednesday this week, based on the level of force, we may come close to eliminating another country or something, we must keep watch)

A number of years ago I read a book written by Robert Cornuke titled "Paul's Lost Shipwreck". Bob is a former police investigator who went to the island of Malta and searched for the lead weights from the anchors of the shipwreck from the book of Acts. He discovered one of the weights in the home of a deceased scuba diver, thus verifying the truth of the Bible narrative.

He has now written an book titled, "Temple" which contains a tremendous amount of evidence showing that the area containing the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem is actually the remains of the Roman Fort Antonia.

I know others have claimed the same thing.
However, if you are interested in the current temple debate, you may find the book interesting.

Like his other books, it is written as a mystery and is a good read.

And just for Danoh's piece of mind...
Yes. He is probably an Acts 2 Dispensationalist, so go ahead and get your goats tied.



Temple by Robert Cornuke

http://www.amazon.com/TEMPLE-Discov...1354143&sr=1-1&keywords=temple+robert+cornuke

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