Jesus said, "as Jonas was three days and three nights", The When? + Spices?

The Fundamentalist · Dec 2, 2014

Do we see, from the scripture itself, that there must of necessity be events included in the Three Days and Three Nights reckoning, such as the scourgings, trials, etc of Jesus, even before the Cross itself or Burial? It must be so, for it must parallel the type, the pattern, the shadow of Jonah/Jonas, for it to have been a sign unto the wicked generation, that it may be toward their repentance and salvation from destruction. Yet, we also see the further type, that just like Nineveh repented, eventually the wicked in Nineveh were later destroyed [as Prophesied, Nahum 1, etc], even as those in Jerusalem were also later destroyed.

The Scripture in saying in the heart of the earth does not mean that Jesus would be in the grave exactly for three days and three nights [a full 72 hours, as some require]. In fact, there is nowhere in the Scripture to any references that this particular statement, in the heart of the earth, means the grave or buried or dead. A similar passage is found in Jonah 2:3, in the midst [Heart] of the seas:

For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me. Jonah 2:3

What then does the phrase mean? The phrase Heart of the Earth, means He would be in the center of all attention of the world, in the center of the turmoil, in the center of the raging 'waters' [peoples] as it were like Jonah, including His own people at the behest of that Leviathan/Satan, for was it not written that the whole world followed after Him?

The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, Perceive ye how ye prevail nothing? behold, the world is gone after him. John 12:19 [now compare that statement to Daniel 11:43 and the Beast in Revelation 13:3, in its counterfeit of Christ, for is it not written that all the world will wonder after the Beast?]

Jesus was in the very midst of the world, in the midst of His people [John 1:1-18], and everyones focus [Matthew 4:24, 9:26,31; Mark 1:28,45; Luke 4:14,37, 5:15, etc], including even the angels of Heaven [Genesis 28:12; John 1:51; 1 Peter 1:12], would be upon Him. For Jesus had said:

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me. John 12:32

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else. Isaiah 45:22

Let us now consider some other terms that Jesus also used, that are similar to three days and three nights, and see what may be gleaned there.

[A] In only one instance, Matthew 12:40 He said, three days and three nights,

but on Two occasions, Matthew 27:63; Mark 8:31 He said, after three days.

[c] and He referred to the same event 5 times in Matthew 26:61, 27:40; Mark 15:29; John 2:19-20 as in three days,

[D] and on Twelve occasions it is said, the third day. Matthew 16:21, 17:23, 20:19; Mark 9:31, 10:34; Luke 9:22, 13:32, 18:33, 24:7,46; Acts 10:40; 1 Corinthians 15:4.

If these expressions are all to be taken in the strictest sense of literally, then the Bible, nay moreso, Jesus, is in complete contradiction, for it is clear that they would then have differing total times, for one says in, another after, still another the and the latter three days and three nights. However, when we search the scriptures, we will find that the Bible uses inclusive reckoning over and over again [Genesis 7:4,10, 17:12, 42:17-19; 2 Chronicles 10:5,12; Esther 4:16, 5:1; Luke 1:59, 2:21; Acts 10:3-30, etc], and so therefore which saying is correct? All of them, for they are all verily saying the same thing, albeit, in differing phraseology.

Jesus was not and cannot be in the strictest literal sense, without destruction to His own words, literally Three Days and Three Nights [as some see as a full '72 hours'] in the Grave, as Scripture, Structure, Language and Typology has shown already and will show again.

The Fundamentalist · Dec 2, 2014

Let us see another example by looking at the Scriptural Time Clock Jesus was going by according to the seasonal feasts which He, Himself, gave [Leviticus 23] -- specifically the seasonal Spring Feasts, as well as the Manna from Heaven in Exodus 16:

THE CHOOSING OF THE SPOTLESS LAMB [Exodus 12:3] 1st Month (Pre-Babylonian-Abib/Aviv, Post Babylonian-Nisan) 10th Day after the New Moon. Choose the spotless Lamb as designated by God, a Lamb for every man, for every house [to be held for 3 1/2 days]. Jesus begins ministry [John 1:29,36] at age 30 [Luke 3:23], according to type [Numbers 4:3,23,30,35,39,40,43,47], and preaches 3 ½ years according to Scripture and Prophecy of Daniel [Daniel 9:27].

PASSOVER FEAST [Leviticus 23:5] 1st Month [Pre-Babylonian-Abib/Aviv, Post Babylonian-Nisan] 14th Day after the New Moon at Even. Spotless Lamb slain [after being held 3 1/2 days], roasted by fire, eaten with bitter herbs, in a state of readiness to depart, with no bone of the Lamb being broken, its shed blood applied to the doorposts and lintel [Exodus 12:7-8]. [Jesus dies AD 31; Nisan 14th, the sixth day of the week. The year shall be demonstrated later.]

UNLEAVENED BREAD FEAST [Leviticus 23:6-8] 1st Month [Pre-Babylonian-Abib/Aviv, Post Babylonian-Nisan] 15th Day after the New Moon - until the 21st Day of the same Month [7 days]. On the 1st Day [15th] of the feast, a holy convocation and no servile work [seasonal feast sabbath; Jesus in the Tomb; Nisan 15th], unleavened is eaten for 7 days [all leaven removed from the 1st Day]. A holy convocation and no servile work on the 7th Day, being the 21st Day of the same Month [seasonal feast sabbath].

FIRSTFRUITS OF HARVEST, WAVE SHEAF [Leviticus 23:10-14] 1st Month [Pre-Babylonian-Abib/Aviv, Post Babylonian-Nisan] 16th Day after the New Moon [Jesus resurrected; Nisan 16th, the first [day] of the week]. A Wave Sheaf of the Firstfruits of the Harvest on the morrow after the Sabbath. This day not being a Sabbath. A spotless he-lamb burnt offering the same day as the wave sheaf. "Meat" [bread] offering - two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD [for] a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof [shall be] of wine, the fourth [part] of an hin. Begin to count 7, 7th Day Sabbaths, plus one more Day unto Pentecost [7x7=49+1=50].

The Scriptural calendar:

[First Month of the Year, Abib/Aviv] [Exodus 12:2; Deuteronomy 16:1] and later became changed to Nisan [after Babylonian Captivity, Esther 3:7; Ezra 6:19]

NEW MOON 1 MONTH DAY 1 - [A Solemn Feast Day according to Psalms 81:3; Numbers 10:10 [CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11]],

1 MONTH DAY 2, [CYCLE DAY 1]
1 MONTH DAY 3, [CYCLE DAY 2]
1 MONTH DAY 4, [CYCLE DAY 3]
1 MONTH DAY 5, [CYCLE DAY 4]
1 MONTH DAY 6, [CYCLE DAY 5]
1 MONTH DAY 7, [CYCLE DAY 6]

1 MONTH DAY 8, [CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11]

1 MONTH DAY 9, [CYCLE DAY 1]

1 MONTH DAY 10, [typological Getting Lamb for Passover; Exodus 12:3 [CYCLE DAY 2] Reality Christ is the LAMB of GOD; John 1:29,36; Jesus begins ministry for 3 ½ years; Daniel 9:27; [and ended on the time so specified] Luke 13:32-33, etc]

1 MONTH DAY 11, [CYCLE DAY 3]
1 MONTH DAY 12, [CYCLE DAY 4]
1 MONTH DAY 13, [CYCLE DAY 5]

1 MONTH DAY 14, [typological Passover at Even; Leviticus 23:5; Reality of Christ's DEATH - CYCLE DAY 6, 'aka Friday', known as the Preparation day [Mark 15:42; Luke 23:54; John 19:31], the True Temple was Destroyed [First day of the Three Prophesied by Jesus; John 2:19, etc] also see the typology of the Manna in Exodus 16:5,22; and see 1 Corinthians 5:7]

1 MONTH DAY 15, [typological First Day of Unleavened Bread, feast sabbath; Exodus 12:16; Leviticus 23:6-7; Reality of Christ's BURIAL - CYCLE DAY 7, 'aka Saturday' [Luke 23:56; 7th Day SABBATH OF THE LORD GOD in the 4th COMMANDMENT], the two [seasonal feast sabbath and 7th DAY SABBATH] combined that year of Jesus and was called an "HIGH DAY" John 19:31, Jesus remained in the tomb [being the Second Day of the Three Prophesied by JESUS; John 2:19, etc]; also see the typology of the Manna in Exodus 16:23]

1 MONTH DAY 16, [typological Wave Sheaf, First Fruits Offering, Not a SABBATH; Leviticus 23:10-11; Joshua 5:10-12; Reality of Christ's RESURRECTION - CYCLE DAY 1, 'aka Sunday' Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:1-2,9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1,19; Jesus free of the Tomb [being the THIRD DAY since these things were done; Luke 24:21; John 2:19, etc], also see the typology of the Manna in Exodus 16:24-25, compare to Acts 13:37; 1 Corinthians 15:20,23...begin counting 7 Sabbaths to PENTECOST Leviticus 23:15]; 1st Day]

1 MONTH DAY 17, [CYCLE DAY 2; 2nd Day]
1 MONTH DAY 18, [CYCLE DAY 3; 3rd Day]
1 MONTH DAY 19, [CYCLE DAY 4; 4th Day]
1 MONTH DAY 20, [CYCLE DAY 5; 5th Day]

1 MONTH DAY 21, [End of Feast of Unleavened Bread, feast sabbath; Leviticus 23:8; [CYCLE DAY 6]; 6th Day]

1 MONTH DAY 22 [[CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11]; PENTECOST SABBATH 1; 7th Day] etc.

1 MONTH DAY 23, [CYCLE DAY 1; 8th Day]
1 MONTH DAY 24, [CYCLE DAY 2; 9th Day]
1 MONTH DAY 25, [CYCLE DAY 3; 10th Day]
1 MONTH DAY 26, [CYCLE DAY 4; 11th Day]
1 MONTH DAY 27, [CYCLE DAY 5; 12th Day]
1 MONTH DAY 28, [CYCLE DAY 6; 13th Day]

1 MONTH DAY 29, [CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11; PENTECOST SABBATH 2]; 14th Day]

1 MONTH DAY 30, [CYCLE DAY 1; 15th Day] [assuming an average 30 day month]

NEW MOON 2 MONTH [known as Zif [1 Kings 6:1]] DAY 1 [A Solemn Feast Day according to Psalms 81:3; Numbers 10:10 [CYCLE DAY 2]; 16th Day]

2 MONTH DAY 2 [CYCLE DAY 3; 17th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 3 [CYCLE DAY 4; 18th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 4 [CYCLE DAY 5; 19th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 5 [CYCLE DAY 6; 20th Day]

2 MONTH DAY 6 [[CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11; PENTECOST SABBATH 3]; 21st Day]

2 MONTH DAY 7 [CYCLE DAY 1; 22nd Day]
2 MONTH DAY 8 [CYCLE DAY 2; 23rd Day]
2 MONTH DAY 9 [CYCLE DAY 3; 24th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 10 [CYCLE DAY 4; 25th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 11 [CYCLE DAY 5; 26th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 12 [CYCLE DAY 6; 27th Day]

2 MONTH DAY 13 [[CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11; PENTECOST SABBATH 4]; 28th Day]

2 MONTH DAY 14 [CYCLE DAY 1; 29th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 15 [CYCLE DAY 2; 30th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 16 [CYCLE DAY 3; 31st Day]
2 MONTH DAY 17 [CYCLE DAY 4; 32nd Day]
2 MONTH DAY 18 [CYCLE DAY 5; 33rd Day]
2 MONTH DAY 19 [CYCLE DAY 6; 34th Day]

2 MONTH DAY 20 [[CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11; PENTECOST SABBATH 5]; 35th Day]

2 MONTH DAY 21 [CYCLE DAY 1; 36th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 22 [CYCLE DAY 2; 37th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 23 [CYCLE DAY 3; 38th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 24 [CYCLE DAY 4; 39th Day]

2 MONTH DAY 25 [CYCLE DAY 5; 40th Day] [Jesus ascends here at some point, being with them 40 days; Psalms 24; Acts 1:3, 10 days left until Pentecost, Disciples return to Jerusalem, 2nd Ascension as Type Aaron]

2 MONTH DAY 26 [CYCLE DAY 6; 41st Day]

2 MONTH DAY 27 [[CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11; PENTECOST SABBATH 6]; 42nd Day]

2 MONTH DAY 28 [CYCLE DAY 1; 43rd Day]
2 MONTH DAY 29 [CYCLE DAY 2; 44th Day]
2 MONTH DAY 30 [CYCLE DAY 3; 45th Day] [assuming an average 30 day month]

NEW MOON 3 MONTH [known as Sivan [Esther 8:9] DAY 1 (A Solemn Feast Day according to Psalms 81:3; Numbers 10:10 [CYCLE DAY 4; 46th Day]]

3 MONTH DAY 2 [CYCLE DAY 5; 47th Day]
3 MONTH DAY 3 [CYCLE DAY 6; 48th Day]

3 MONTH DAY 4 [[CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11; PENTECOST SABBATH 7]; 49th Day]

3 MONTH DAY 5 [CYCLE DAY 1; PENTECOST [7 Sabbaths [49 days] + 1 Day; Leviticus 23:15-16; Acts 2:1] 50th Day; Christ Jesus becomes anointed in Heaven as Great High Priest... typology reveals this and we see fulfillment in Acts 1-2; Psalms 133:1-3; Revelation 5:6, etc]

3 MONTH DAY 6 [CYCLE DAY 2]
3 MONTH DAY 7 [CYCLE DAY 3]
3 MONTH DAY 8 [CYCLE DAY 4]
3 MONTH DAY 9 [CYCLE DAY 5]
3 MONTH DAY 10 [CYCLE DAY 6]

3 MONTH DAY 11 [CYCLE DAY 7; 7th DAY SABBATH Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11]

and so on and so forth ...

The Fundamentalist · Dec 2, 2014

Type is given by God to show the Reality of that which was to come - Jesus.

The entirety of the earthly Sanctuary is merely the pattern [Exodus 25:9,40; Numbers 8:4, etc] of the Heavenly [see book of Hebrews].

Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen. Acts 7:44

Tupos = type, pattern. Strong's G5179 - Greek Lexicon :: G5179 (KJV)

See also Romans 5:14, Adam was the figure of Him who was to come.

See also 1 Corinthians 10:6,11, ensample~~ is the tupos, of that which we are to learn from, the pattern.~~

Christ Jesus is indeed our Passover, of which the Lamb was merely the Type, yes?

... even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us ... 1 Corinthians 5:7

John the Baptist understood the type/reality, that Jesus was the Anti-typical [fulfillment/reality, that which is the substance, casting the shadow, not the shadow itself],

"...Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God..." John 1:29

"And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!" John 1:36

Since the scripture is clear that Jesus is the Lamb of God, and that Christ Jesus is our Passover, it is clear that the Passover must of necessity be sacrificed upon the 14th day after the New Moon of Aviv/Nisan:

And thus shall ye eat it; [with] your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it [is] the LORD'S passover. Exodus 12:11

Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them, Draw out and take you a lamb according to your families, and kill the passover. Exodus 12:21

That ye shall say, It [is] the sacrifice of the LORD'S passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshipped. Exodus 12:27

In the fourteenth [day] of the first month at even [is] the LORD'S passover. Leviticus 23:5

These should be enough to establish that Jesus, our passover was to be killed upon the 14th of Aviv/Nisan, though there is of course many more substantiating texts [Numbers 9:5, 28:16, etc], see also Joshua 5:10, where they obeyed this ordinance:

And the children of Israel encamped in Gilgal, and kept the passover on the fourteenth day of the month at even in the plains of Jericho. Joshua 5:10

If Jesus is not the fulfillment of the tupos/type, he being the Anti-type/reality/substance, what then is the point of John pointing to Him and saying that He is the Lamb of God, or to Paul saying Christ our Passover? There of course would be no point in them doing so, if the original type did not actually exist to point to the anti-type.

What day then immediately followed the 14th of the Passover? It was the first Day of the feast of Unleavened Bread, which took place always upon the 15th day following the New Moon of the month Aviv/Nisan:

And on the fifteenth day of the same month [is] the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. Leviticus 23:6

This was the tupos or type. Unleavened is to be without sin, since this leaven was pointing to sin. Christ Jesus died without sin and was so buried, for unleavened bread was also eaten on the Passover day previous.

This first day of the feast of Unleavened Bread was a seasonal feast sabbath, where no servile work could be done:

In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. Leviticus 23:7

This is seen in Joshua 5:11, even as the obeyed the ordinances:

And they did eat of the old corn of the land on the morrow after the passover, unleavened cakes, and parched [corn] in the selfsame day. Joshua 5:11

The day which immediately followed this first day of unleavened bread, was the wavesheaf/firstfruits offering:

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest: Leviticus 23:10

And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it. Leviticus 23:11

And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD. Leviticus 23:12

We see what God was doing even as we go back to Joshua 5, even the day which followed immediately after the first day of the feast of Unleavened bread:

And the manna ceased on the morrow after they had eaten of the old corn of the land; neither had the children of Israel manna any more; but they did eat of the fruit of the land of Canaan that year. Joshua 5:12

Thus from scripture we have so far:

[1] 14th Aviv/Nisan = Passover

[2] 15th Aviv/Nisan = First day of the feast of unleavened bread, seasonal feast sababth, no servile work

[3] 16th Aviv/Nisan = Firstfruits/Wavesheaf offering

Three consecutive days.

The First fruits is the type/tupos of the Resurrection, being a first part of the great harvest which belongs unto the Lord.

If Christ Jesus was dead for the whole day of the Firstfruits, no matter the chronology, then He is not the fulfillment of the Firstfruits, and we are now stuck with broken scripture, for scripture says of Christ Jesus:

But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept. 1 Corinthians 15:20

But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:23

Christ Jesus could not become the Firstfruits until Resurrected. Let all consider this point most carefully.

Therefore:

[1] 14th Aviv/Nisan - Passover, Christ Jesus dies

[2] 15th Aviv/Nisan - First day unleavened bread, seasonal sabbath, Christ Jesus without sin buried [also as seen; the Seventh Day Sabbath conincided, combining Creation/Redemption together forever]

[3] 16th Aviv/Nisan - Firstfruits/wavesheaf, Christ Jesus resurrected.

Three consecutive days. It can only be this way. This is not only given in this way, but also in the Manna of Exodus 16, in the events of Jonah, and according to further material yet to be seen.

Jesus also fulfilled the events of Aviv/Nisan 10th [beginning ministry] and also of the Pentecost [Acts 1-3]

Once we consider all of this, and compare with the events of the Gospels and elsewhere, the third day since these things were done by the two on the road to Emaus, etc, and by the written words of Luke in Luke 23:56, that the women, did not merely go back and keep the Sabbath according to the statute, the ordinance, or 'seasonal feast', merely doing no servile work, but instead went back and kept the sabbath according to the commandment, which is a reference to Exodus 20:8-11, which says to do no work, and trumps the seasonal feast sabbath. When we also consider the words High day in regards to this particular sabbath, for both sabbaths [plural] met that day in that year, we get a greater understanding of the events taking place as foretold.

One extra source gives:

Cyclopaedia of Biblical, theological, and ecclesiastical literature: Volume 7 John McClintock, James Strong - 1894 ... he lay in the grave on the 15th (which was a 'high day' or double Sabbath, because the weekly Sabbath coincided ...- Wikipedia, Crucifixion of Jesus - Crucifixion of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The word preparation is generally [*we will look at this further, a little later, for the exception] in regards to the 6th Day, which just so happened that year AD 31, to be the Passover feast, Nisan 14, and the sixth day of the week, the preparation day before the 7th Day Sabbath.

Here is how another source, Josephus, understood the preparation day, in regards the day before the 7th Day Sabbath:

Caesar Augustus, high priest and tribune of the people, ordains thus: Since the nation of the Jews hath been found grateful to the Roman people, not only at this time, but in time past also, and chiefly Hyrcanus the high priest, under my father Caesar the emperor, it seemed good to me and my counselors, according to the sentence and oath of the people of Rome, that the Jews have liberty to make use of their own customs, according to the law of their forefathers, as they made use of them under Hyrcanus the high priest of the Almighty God; and that their sacred money be not touched, but be sent to Jerusalem, and that it be committed to the care of the receivers at Jerusalem; and that they be not obliged to go before any judge on the sabbath day, nor on the day of the preparation to it, after the ninth hour. Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book XVI, Chapter VI, 2. - The Works of Flavius Josephus, the Learned and Authentic Jewish Historian ... - Flavius Josephus - Google Books

The Fundamentalist · Dec 2, 2014

Extra consideration, is also to be had about the following text:

And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Mark 16:1

For those which advocate a middle of the week [Wednesday, or Thursday], or the beginning of the week [Sunday] Crucifixion for Jesus, utilize this text along with the phrases three days and three nights [Jonah 1:17; Matthew 12:40] and in the heart of the earth [Matthew 12:40], attempting to prove that Jesus needed to be in the grave for 72 hours [12 full hours for each day and night], some having Jesus raised the Seventh Day Sabbath, others on Sunday, others raised on Wednesday, depending on their various respective views. For these advocates of such theologies/explanations, ask the question, how could those women, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, all had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him since they were not allowed to do so during seasonal feast sabbath hours, nor during the 7th Day Sabbath hours? Generally, the question is begged with the apriori position that the they could have had no time from the time Jesus was crucified and burial to do so. However, let us see what we will of the Scriptures first in all four Gospel accounts together [beginning with the Truly this was the Son of God statement/event and continuing from there], before addressing this:

Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. Matthew 27:54

And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God. Mark 15:39

Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man. Luke 23:47

And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the things which were done, smote their breasts, and returned. Luke 23:48

And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: Matthew 27:55

There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome; Mark 15:40

And all his acquaintance, and the women that followed him from Galilee, stood afar off, beholding these things. Luke 23:49

Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children. Matthew 27:56

(Who also, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered unto him: ) and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem. Mark 15:41

When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: Matthew 27:57

And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Mark 15:42

And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just: Luke 23:50

(The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them; ) he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God. Luke 23:51

He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered. Matthew 27:58

Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. Mark 15:43

And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead. Mark 15:44

And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. Mark 15:45

This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Luke 23:52

And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus. John 19:38

And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, Matthew 27:59

And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. Mark 15:46

And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. Luke 23:53

And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound [weight]. John 19:39

Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. John 19:40

And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. Luke 23:54

Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. John 19:41

There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation [day]; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand. John 19:42

And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed. Matthew 27:60

And there was Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary, sitting over against the sepulchre. Matthew 27:61

And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid. Mark 15:47

And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. Luke 23:55

And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Luke 23:56

In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. Matthew 28:1

And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. Matthew 28:2

And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Mark 16:1

And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. Mark 16:2

And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre? Mark 16:3

And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great. Mark 16:4

Now upon the first [day] of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain [others] with them. Luke 24:1

And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. Luke 24:2

The first [day] of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. John 20:1

Without resorting to various theories as held by others, what does the text plainly give to us?

We read that on the very same day that Jesus was Crucified, being the Passover, the 14th of Aviv/Nisan, the sixth day of the week,

[1] Jesus died about the ninth hour [approximately 3 PM], according to the Scripture [Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:33-34; Luke 23:44], in fulfillment of Prophecy and Typology, He being the Lamb of God, even the Passover Lamb, prepared for the evening sacrifice.

[2] Joseph of Arimathaea had time on that same day after Jesus' death to approach and ask of Pilate for the Body of Jesus [Matthew 27:57-58; Mark 15:42-43; Luke 23:50-52; John 19:38].

[3] Pontius Pilate had time on that same day after Jesus' death to summon the guard, and inquire about Jesus' death [Mark 15:44-45].

[4] Joseph of Arimathaea on that same day had time to come back from asking Pilate, and the inquisition made by Pilate to the Soldier, to the Cross, and take down the body of Jesus to be carried away [John 19:38].

[5] Joseph of Arimathaea had time on that same day, after Jesus' death and after asking Pontius Pilate for the body of Jesus, and the inquisition made of Pilate to the guard, and taking Jesus down and way, to then purchase afterward [And bought] fine linen to wrap Jesus' body in [Mark 15:46].

[6] Nicodemus had time on that same day to bring [brought] a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound [weight] [John 19:39] along with Joseph of Arimathaea to then wound it in linen clothes with the spices and embalm the body of Jesus with [Matthew 27:59; Mark 15:46; Luke 23:53; John 19:40].

[7] According to the texts, there was still time before the Sabbath, according to the commandment [Luke 23:56] had come, as the Scriptures reveal that it was still the preparation day, though the sabbath drew on [or was nearing] [Luke 23:54].

[8] They all had time on that same day, even after all these events to go to the tomb with Jesus and lay Him in the tomb, and seal it [Matthew 27:60-61; Mark 15:47; Luke 23:55; John 19:41-42].

[9] Even after the women saw how Jesus was laid in the tomb, and the tomb then sealed, they still had sufficient time before the sabbath was upon them to return from the tomb to their homes.

[10] Once the women had returned to their homes [some Jerusalem, others possibly Olivet] they still had enough time, because the Scriptures recorded that they then prepared spices and ointments [Luke 23:56] before the Sabbath, in which they then when it had come, finally, rested according to the commandment. [Luke 23:56].

Let us now, come back to the main text at issue:

And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the [mother] of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Mark 16:1

Much is made of the had bought, and the timing thereof. This text does not indicate that a seasonal feast sabbath had come, and then a normal day existed inbetween for them to make purchase, which was then followed by the 7th Day Sabbath, for it has been shown Prophetically and Typologically that that would be impossible. Let us then look at the words:

"had bought" [already having had purchased, sometime in the past] -

Tense: Aorist
Voice: Active
Mood: Indicative
Person: third
Number: Plural

The Aorist tense conveys the truth that ... (indicative mood is mood of reality) has occurred at a point in the past without specifying when this event occurred. One writer adds "strictly speaking, the aorist denotes past time only in the indicative ... (Learning the Basics of New Testament Greek. AMG Publishers)" - Greek Quick Reference Guide

This is s a past tense action, and the Greek aorist [tense] indicative [mood] reveals that it was an event [the purchasing] already past and done, some time before these events, without the text determining the exact moment of purchase in the past, but we can know by the other texts, and the women's own faithfulness that it had to be sometime before the Sabbath mentioned in this text and others. When we combine all of those previous points [1-10], we can know that the women had plenty of time to make the purchase of those spices several hours before Sabbath had come, while the men [Joseph and Nicodemus] were doing the things recorded, even purchasing linen, etc. We can know that the women already had the spices before Jesus was laid in the tomb, and thus we can conclusively determine that they had bought those spices sometime before then.

I will also recommend upon this issue, a webpage with several helpful charts -

Was Jesus crucified on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday?
http://biblelight.net/Passover%20chart.htm

The Scriptures do not specifically declare anywhere exactly when those spices were purchased [unless anyone would like to suggest a text where we might consider further, wherein it gives those specifics?] as it only mentions that they were purchased, some time in the past, before the day of the resurrection and before the day before, being the Sabbath, for we find them preparing those spices upon the same day Jesus was crucified, and the coming with them prepared on Resurrection morning.

We could come to various conclusions to an exact time, but they would be speculation, even if good speculation, since the scriptures simply do not declare this specific information to us, though it does give a general timeframe to work with, being somewhere between 3 PM and Sundown/Evening of the Nisan 14th the day of the preparation.

It is known that a lot of people place a lot of emphasis on this passage and this item of spices, but these same are missing the greater elements, namely Jesus. Yes, truth matters, and as far as the study of the Scriptures and the Spirit of Prophecy go, we have all the truth that we may obtain about these 'spices' and approximately when they were purchased.

The Fundamentalist · Dec 2, 2014

THE HIGH DAY, THE COMBINED SABBATHS, THE 7th DAY SABBATH OF THE LORD THY GOD & THE SEASONAL FEAST SABBATH:

High (From On, Most), Highly:

"great," is translated "high" in Jhn 19:31, of the Sabbath dayatthe Passover season; here the meaning is virtually equivalent to "holy," [Vine's Expository; G3173] - Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon#

Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Matthew 27:62

And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Matthew 15:42

And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. Luke 23:54

The context of Luke 23:54, is Luke 23:56:

And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Luke 23:56

And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! John 19:14

The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. John 19:31

There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand. John 19:42

The word for preparation is the Greek παρασκευή [parasceve], which means:

a making ready, preparation, equipping; 1. that which is prepared, equipment; 2. in the NT in a Jewish sense, the day of preparation; A. the day on which the Jews made necessary preparation to celebrate a sabbath or a feast [Strong's Concordance; G3903; παρασκευή; paraskeuē] - Greek Lexicon :: G3904 (KJV)

Another says:

Preparation, Prepare, Prepared:

denotes "preparation, equipment." The day on which Christ died is called "the Preparation" in Mar 15:42; Jhn 19:31; in Jhn 19:42 "the Jews' Preparation," RV; in Jhn 19:14 it is described as "the Preparation of the Passover;" in Luk 23:54, RV, "the day of the Preparation (and the Sabbath drew on)." The same day is in view in Mat 27:62, where the events recorded took place on "the day after the Preparation" (RV). The reference would be to the 6th day of the week. The title arose from the need of preparing food etc. for the Sabbath. Apparently it was first applied only to the afternoon of the 6th day; later, to the whole day. In regard to the phraseology in Jhn 19:14, many hold this to indicate the "preparation" for the paschal feast. It probably means "the Preparation day," and thus falls in line with the Synoptic Gospels. In modern Greek and ecclesiastical Latin, Parasceve == Friday. [Vine's Expository; G3904] - Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon

παρασκευή is used in Matthew 27:62; Mark 15:42; Luke 23:54; John 19:14,31,42.

The New Testament seems to utilize the word for both meanings,

[1; primary use] for the preparation in the 6th Day, before the 7th Day Sabbath as in Matthew 27:62; Mark 15:42; Luke 23:54-56; John 19:31,

[2; secondary use] also for the preparation of the passover itself, as in John 19:14,42.

[3; related use] A related word παρασκευάζω is found in Acts 10:10 [made ready]; 1 Corinthians 14:8 [prepare]; 2 Corinthians 9:2,3 [ready x2].

Passover [Aviv/Nisan 14th] itself is never a feast sabbath, though it is a feast, yet the first Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread [Aviv/Nisan 15th] there was to be a feast sabbath [Exodus 12:16].

In extant Greek materials, like the Didache 8:1[-2, depending], we see the word παρασκευή again reference to the day before the 7th Day Sabbath, which would be the 6th day of the week, or what many commonly call friday.

In Transliterates Greek:

ai de nhsteiai umwn mh estwsan meta twn upokritwn. nhsteusousi gar deutera sabbatwn kai pempth, umeiv de nhsteusate tetrada kai paraskeuhn. Didache 8:1 Greek - http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/texteapo/didache-greek.html

Which reads in the English:

And let not your fastings be with the hypocrites, for they fast on the second and the fifth day of the week; Didache 8:1; But do you keep your fast on the fourth and on the preparation day. Didache 8:2 [subnotation, In the parable of the Publican and the Pharisee in Luke 18, the Pharisee reminds God "I fast twice a week." Both Jews and Christians fasted twice a week, but on different days. The day of (Jewish) preparation (for the Sabbath) was the sixth day; thus Christians of the early church fasted on Wednesdays and Friday, in contrast with the Jews. The "hypocrites" of verse 1 may be a rebuke to Christians who continued to observe Jewish customs.] - The Didache with Commentary

Another translation reads, again in the English:

Your fasts should not be with the hypocrites, for they fast on Mondays and Thursdays. You should fast on Wednesdays and Fridays. Didache 8:1 - The Didache - The Complete Text

But let not your fasts be with the hypocrites, for they fast on the second and fifth day of the week. Rather, fast on the fourth day and the Preparation (Friday). Didache 8:1 - Didache. The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (translation Roberts-Donaldson).

Further, when we look at the word parasceve, we find it connected with prosabbaton in Mark 15:42:

And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Mark 15:42

This reads in the Greek:

και ηδη οψιας γενομενης επει ην παρασκευη ο εστιν προσαββατον

ην παρασκευη ο εστιν προσαββατον literally means, the preparation, that [or 'which'] is, Sabbath eve [or 'before Sabbath'], the 7th Day of the Lord:

In the LXX [Septuagint], προσαββατου occurs in Psalms 93:1 [92:1 KJV], Greek:

Εἰς τὴν ἡμέραν τοῦ προσαββάτου, ὅτε κατῴ κισται ἡ γῆ· αἶνος ᾠδῆς τῷ Δαυιδ. Ὁ κύριος ἐβασίλευσεν, εὐπρέπειαν ἐνεδύσατο, ἐνεδύσατο κύριος δύναμιν καὶ περιεζώσατο· καὶ γὰρ ἐστερέωσεν τὴν οἰκουμένην, ἥτις οὐ σαλευθήσεται. Psalms 93:1 LXX [92:1 KJV]

Translated into English:

[[A Psalm or Song for the sabbath day.]] It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: Psalms 92:1 KJV

In apocryphal material, like Judith 8:6 and 2 Maccabees 8:26, the word prosabbaton or pro tou sabbatou, is again the day just before the Sabbath [or Sabbath eve], or what Scripture designates as the 6th day of the week, with the 7th Day the Sabbath of the Lord:

And she fasted all the days of her widowhood, save the eves of the sabbaths, and the sabbaths, and the eves of the new moons, and the new moons and the feasts and solemn days of the house of Israel. Judith 8:6 KJV w/apochrypha - http://www.unravelingtheword.info/TheApocrypha/Judith/judith08.htm

καὶ ἐνήστευε πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας τῆς χηρεύσεως αὐτῆς χωρὶς προσαββάτων καὶ σαββάτων καὶ προνουμηνιῶν καὶ νουμηνιῶν καὶ ἑορτῶν καὶ χαρμοσυνῶν οἴκου Ισραηλ. Judith 8:6 LXX [E-Sword]

For it was the day before the sabbath, and therefore they would no longer pursue them. 2 Maccabees 8:26 KJV w/apochrypha - 2 MACCABEES 8:26 For it was the day before the sabbath, and therefore they would no longer pursue them.

ἦν γὰρ ἡ πρὸ τοῦ σαββάτου, δι᾿ ἣν αἰτίαν οὐκ ἐμακροτόνησαν κατατρέχοντες αὐτούς. 2 Maccabees 8:26 LXX [E-Sword]

Josephus says of the παρασκευή; in Greek:

[162] Καῖσαρ Σεβαστὸς ἀρχιερεὺς δημαρχικῆς ἐξουσίας λέγει. ἐπειδὴ τὸ ἔθνος τὸ τῶν Ἰουδαίων εὐχάριστον εὑρέθη οὐ μόνον ἐν τῷ ἐνεστῶτι καιρῷ ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐν τῷ προγεγενημένῳ καὶ μάλιστα ἐπὶ τοῦ ἐμοῦ πατρὸς αὐτοκράτορος Καίσαρος πρὸς τὸν δῆμον τὸν Ῥωμαίων ὅ τε ἀρχιερεὺς αὐτῶν Ὑρκανός, [163] ἔδοξέ μοι καὶ τῷ ἐμῷ συμβουλίῳ μετὰ ὁρκωμοσίας γνώμῃ δήμου Ῥωμαίων τοὺς Ἰουδαίους χρῆσθαι τοῖς ἰδίοις θεσμοῖς κατὰ τὸν πάτριον αὐτῶν νόμον, καθὼς ἐχρῶντο ἐπὶ Ὑρκανοῦ ἀρχιερέως θεοῦ ὑψίστου, τά τε ἱερὰ * εἶναι ἐν ἀσυλίᾳ καὶ ἀναπέμπεσθαι εἰς Ἱεροσόλυμα καὶ ἀποδίδοσθαι τοῖς ἀποδοχεῦσιν Ἱεροσολύμων, ἐγγύας τε μὴ ὁμολογεῖν αὐτοὺς ἐν σάββασιν ἢ τῇ πρὸ αὐτῆς παρασκευῇ ἀπὸ ὥρας ἐνάτης. [164] ἐὰν δέ τις φωραθῇ κλέπτων τὰς ἱερὰς βίβλους αὐτῶν ἢ τὰ ἱερὰ χρήματα ἔκ τε σαββατείου ἔκ τε ἀνδρῶνος, εἶναι αὐτὸν ἱερόσυλον καὶ τὸν βίον αὐτοῦ ἐνεχθῆναι εἰς τὸ δημόσιον τῶν Ῥωμαίων. [165] τό τε ψήφισμα τὸ δοθέν μοι ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν ὑπὲρ τῆς ἐμῆς εὐσεβείας ἧς ἔχω πρὸς πάντας ἀνθρώπους καὶ ὑπὲρ Γαΐου Μαρκίου Κηνσωρίνου καὶ τοῦτο τὸ διάταγμα κελεύω ἀνατεθῆναι ἐν ἐπισημοτάτῳ τόπῳ τῷ γενηθέντι μοι ὑπὸ τοῦ κοινοῦ τῆς Ἀσίας ἐν Ἀγκύρῃ. ἐὰν δέ τις παραβῇ τι τῶν προειρημένων, δώσει δίκην οὐ μετρίαν. ἐστηλογραφήθη ἐν τῷ Καίσαρος ναῷ. [Greek - Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 16.162 or Book 16 Chapter 6 Section 2] - Flavius Josephus, Antiquitates Judaicae, *ta/de e)/nestin e)n th=| e(ckaideka/th| tw=n *)iwsh/pou i(storiw=n th=s *)ioudai+kh=s a)rxaiologi/as., Whiston chapter 6, Whiston section 2

The Fundamentalist · Dec 2, 2014

In English:

[162] "Caesar Augustus, high priest and tribune of the people, ordains thus: Since the nation of the Jews hath been found grateful to the Roman people, not only at this time, but in time past also, and chiefly Hyrcanus the high priest, under my father 1

Caesar the emperor, it seemed good to me and my counselors, according to the sentence and oath of the people of Rome, that the Jews have liberty to make use of their own customs, according to the law of their forefathers, as they made use of them under Hyrcanus the high priest of the Almighty God; and that their sacred money be not touched, but be sent to Jerusalem, and that it be committed to the care of the receivers at Jerusalem; and that they be not obliged to go before any judge on the sabbath day, nor on the day of the preparation to it, after the ninth hour. 2

But if any one be caught stealing their holy books, or their sacred money, whether it be out of the synagogue or public school, he shall be deemed a sacrilegious person, and his goods shall be brought into the public treasury of the Romans. And I give order that the testimonial which they have given me, on account of my regard to that piety which I exercise toward all mankind, and out of regard to Caius Marcus Censorinus, together with the present decree, be proposed in that most eminent place which hath been consecrated to me by the community of Asia at Ancyra. And if any one transgress any part of what is above decreed, he shall be severely punished." This was inscribed upon a pillar in the temple of Caesar.

1 Augustus here calls Julius Caesar his father, though by birth he was only his uncle, on account of his adoption by him. See the same Antiq. B. XIV. ch. 14. sect. 4.

2 This is authentic evidence that the Jews, in the days of Augustus, began to prepare for the celebration of the sabbath at the ninth hour on Friday, as the tradition of the elders did, it seems, then require of them. [English - Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 16.162 or Book 16 Chapter 6 Section 2] - Flavius Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book 16, section 162

The Latin Dictionary, which follows the Greek, gives for parasceve as:

părăscēvē , ēs, f., = παρασκευή, I. the day of preparation, i. e. the day before the Sabbath, Tert. adv. Marc. 4, 12; id. adv. Psych. 14; Vulg. Matt. 27, 62; id. Luc. 23, 54. - Charlton T. Lewis, Charles Short, A Latin Dictionary, p?r?sc?v?

... [6] Meminerat enim et ille hoc privilegium donatum sabbato a primordio quo dies ipse compertus est, veniam ieiunii dico. Cum enim prohibuisset creator in biduum legi manna, solummodo permisit in parasceue, ut sabbati sequentis ferias pridiana pabuli paratura ieiunio liberaret. ... [Latin Tertullian: Adversus Marcionem; Liber Quartus or Book IV [4], Chapter XII [12]] - Tertullian : Ernest Evans, Adversus Marcionem.Â Book 4

... For he too remembered that even from the beginning, since the sabbath day was first instituted, this privilege was granted to itI mean exemption from fasting. For when the Creator forbade the gathering of two days' supply of manna, he allowed it only on the day before the sabbath, so that by having food prepared the day before he might make immune from fasting the holy day of the sabbath that followed. ... [English Tertullian: Against Marcion; Book 4, Chapter 12] - Tertullian : Ernest Evans, Adversus Marcionem.Â[bless and do not curse] Book 4 (English)

XIV. 1. Horum igitur tempora obseruantes et dies et menses et annos galaticamur? Plane, si Iudaicarum caeremoniarum, si legalium sollemnitatum obseruantes sumus; illas enim apostolus dedocet compescens ueteris testamenti in Christo sepulti perseuerantiam et noui sistens. 2. Quod si noua conditio in Christo, noua et sollemnia esse debebunt: aut si omnem in totum deuotionem temporum et dierum et mensium et annorum erasit apostolus, cur pascha celebramus annuo circulo in mense primo? Cur quinquaginta exinde diebus in omni exultatione decurrimus? Cur stationibus quartam et sextam sabbati dicamus et ieiuniis parasceuen? 3. Quamquam uos etiam sabbatum, si quando, continuatis, numquam nisi in pascha ieiunandum secundum rationem alibi redditam. Nobis certe omnis dies etiam uulgata consecratione celebratur. Nec ergo apud apostolum differentiae ratio, distinguentem noua et uetera. 4. Sed et hic inaequalitas uestra ridebitur, cum uetustatum formam nobis exprobratis in quo causam nouitatis accusatis. [Tertullian: De Ieiunio Adversus Psychicos XIV [14]] - Tertullian : De ieiunio adversus psychicos

Chapter XIV.Reply to the Charge of Galaticism.

Being, therefore, observers of seasons for these things, and of days, and months, and years,[1] we Galaticize. Plainly we do, if we are observers of Jewish ceremonies, of legal solemnities: for those the apostle unteaches, suppressing the continuance of the Old Testament which has been buried in Christ, and establishing that of the New. But if there is a new creation in Christ,[2] our solemnities too will be bound to be new: else, if the apostle has erased all devotion absolutely of seasons, and days, and months, and years, why do we celebrate the passover by an annual rotation in the first month? Why in the fifty ensuing days do we spend our time in all exultation? Why do we devote to Stations the fourth and sixth days of the week, and to fasts the preparation-day?[3] Anyhow, you sometimes continue your Station even over the Sabbath,a day never to be kept as a fast except at the passover season, according to a reason elsewhere given. With us, at all events, every day likewise is celebrated by an ordinary consecration. And it will not, then, be, in the eyes of the apostle, the differentiating principledistinguishing (as he is doing) things new and old[4]which will be ridiculous; but (in this case too) it will be your own unfairness, while you taunt us with the form of antiquity all the while you are laying against us the charge of novelty. [1] Comp. Gal. iv. 10.; [2] Comp. Luke xxii. 20; 2 Cor. v. 17, etc.; [3] Comp. Mark xv. 42. [And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Mark 15:42 KJV]; [4] Comp. Matt. xiii. 52 ad fin. [English - Tertullian: On Fasting, Against The Materialistic/Materialists 14; or also the Ante-Nicene Fathers Volume IV [4]; Tertullian; Fourth Part; On Fasting; Chapter 14] - Ante-Nicene Fathers/Volume IV/Tertullian: Part Fourth/On Fasting/Chapter 14 - Wikisource, the free online library

Thus we see the 2 uses, the [1] Primary from Genesis, the weekly; and [2] the Secondary, use for the seasonal feastal sabbaths which came only once in the year.

[1] The Primary use, from Genesis, the weekly:

Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no. Exodus 16:4

And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily. Exodus 16:5

And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. Exodus 16:23

[2] The Secondary use, for the seasonal feastal sabbaths which came only once in the year, as Passover:

So all the service of the LORD was prepared the same day, to keep the passover, and to offer burnt offerings upon the altar of the LORD, according to the commandment of king Josiah. 2 Chronicles 35:16

And the children of Israel that were present kept the passover at that time, and the feast of unleavened bread seven days. 2 Chronicles 35:17

The Fundamentalist · Dec 2, 2014

[Q1] Since Jesus was in the Temple teaching, just two days before Passover [Matthew 26:1-2; Mark 14:1; Luke 21:37-38, 22:1], doesn't this automatically make that day that He is there, the 7th Day Sabbath of the Lord thy God [Exodus 20:8-11], since it was Jesus custom [Luke 4:16] to observe the 7th Day Sabbath of the Lord thy God in the gathering?

[A1a] Not so, for it is written, that Jesus was daily teaching in the Temple and therefore it could be any given day of the week, and immediate context may [and in this case, does, as we shall see] determine a more fixed period. For example:

In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me. Matthew 26:55

I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. Mark 14:49

And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him, Luke 19:47

When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness. Luke 22:53

Even the Disciples carried this practice forward after Pentecost:

And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Acts 2:46

And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ. Acts 5:42

[A1b] We may also notice that Luke 4:16, And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read., does not say that Jesus had entered the Temple, but rather the Synagogue in His own home town of Nazareth, which is the local gathering. The Temple [being only in Jerusalem] and Synagogue [local town gathering] are distinct places, and also we see that Jesus did it on more days in each location than just the 7th Day Sabbath of the Lord thy God [Exodus 20:8-11]. using the word ever, a synonym for always/continually/daily, etc:

Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. John 18:20

[A1c] We may also consider that in the very week leading up to the Passover itself, from the very day that Jesus left Bethany [where He had rested the 7th Day Sabbath of the Lord thy God, six days before the Passover; John 12:1] and coming into and entering Jerusalem, in the Triumphal Entry [Matthew 21:1], being the First Day of the Week towards the setting of the sun [Mark 11:11], Jesus was in the Temple on several days [Day 1, 2, 3] in a row, after coming from spending the 7th Day Sabbath at Lazarus' house in Bethany on the Mt. Olivet:

[The 7th Day Sabbath, being six days before the Passover [which took place on Nisan 14th]]

Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. John 12:1

[First Day of the Week, the Triumphal Entry at the near the setting of the Sun]

On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, John 12:12

And Jesus entered into Jerusalem ... Mark 11:11

And when he was come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, Who is this? Matthew 21:10

Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. John 12:13

... and into the temple: Mark 11:11

... and when he had looked round about upon all things, and now the eventide was come, ... Mark 11:11

And he left them, and went out of the city into Bethany; and he lodged there. Matthew 21:17

... he went out unto Bethany with the twelve. Mark 11:11

[Second Day of the Week, casting out the Moneychangers]

Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered. Matthew 21:18

And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: Mark 11:12

And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. Matthew 21:19

And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. Mark 11:13

And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it. Mark 11:14

And they come to Jerusalem: ... Mark 11:15

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matthew 21:12

... and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves; Mark 11:15

And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple. Mark 11:16

And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. Matthew 21:13

And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves. Mark 11:17

And when even was come, he went out of the city. Mark 11:19

[Third Day of the Week, the Last Confrontation between Jesus and the Priests, being before two days before the Passover; Matthew 26:2; Mark 14:1]

And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. Mark 11:20

And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away! Matthew 21:20

And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away. Mark 11:21

And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. Mark 11:22

And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. Matthew 21:22

For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Mark 11:23

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. Mark 11:24

And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. Mark 11:25

But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. Mark 11:26

And they come again to Jerusalem: ... Mark 11:27

And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority? Matthew 21:23

... and as he was walking in the temple, there come to him the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders, Mark 11:27

[A1d] The Spirit of Prophecy, which includes the Desire of Ages and the Great Controversy, etc., confirm the above time line in harmony with the Scripture, please see the Desire of Ages references cited for the clearest time line in [QUESTIONS that some have AND ANSWERS to those questions; SCRIPTURE; SPIRIT OF PROPHECY]:.

[A1Conclusion] When Jesus was on His last day [Third Day of the Week] of teaching in the Temple, it was just before two days before the Passover [Matthew 26:1-2; Mark 14:1; Luke 21:37-38, 22:1], and He having taught already two consecutive days in the Temple, prior [on the First [Triumphal Entry] and Second Days of the Week [Casting out the Moneychangers]]:

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Matthew 23:37

Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Matthew 23:38

For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Matthew 23:39

And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected. Luke 13:32

Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. Luke 13:33

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! Luke 13:34

Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Luke 13:35

Thus, if one allows for a filling in at this point with modern terminology, to be further demonstrated later in History and Spirit of Prophecy, we can see from Tuesday [Third Day of the Week] was the to day and Wednesday [Fourth Day of the Week] was the to morrow and Thursday [Fifth Day of the Week] was the third [day] when Jesus would finally be finished [perfected [Strong's Concordance; G5048; τελειόω] which is completed, finished] working the miracles [cast out devils and do cures] and thus enter into His final experiences as mortal man, Thursday night, unto Friday [Sixth Day of the Week] be buried Sabbath [Seventh Day of the Week] and resurrect Sunday [First Day of the Week].

The Last Miracle Jesus did before His death, was the healing of the High Priest's servants ear, the very night He was betrayed:

And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him. Luke 22:51

The Fundamentalist · Dec 3, 2014

The Year AD 31 for the death of Jesus is fixed by Scripture and Historic Chronology, for in Daniel 8 [... a vision appeared unto me .. Daniel 8:1; ... I saw in a vision I saw in a vision ... Daniel 8:2; ... and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns ... Daniel 8:3; Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? Daniel 8:13; And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Daniel 8:14; The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. Daniel 8:20; And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. Daniel 8:26], we receive that the vision began with the Kingdom of Medo-Persia, and it was with that Kingdom that the decree of Cyrus II The Great, Darius I Hystaspes The Persian and finally Artaxerxes I Longimanus in His 7th Year [457 BC] would go forward and the 2,300 evening/mornings [day/years] begin, and in Daniel 9 [At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision. Daniel 9:23; Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Daniel 9:24; Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. Daniel 9:25; And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Daniel 9:26; And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Daniel 9:27] it is confirmed with the 490 day/years sectioned/determined for the Jews out of it, and further in Daniel 10-11 we have further confirmation of events and times, see Daniel 10:1-21, 11:1-2 and in Ezra, Esther and Nehemiah.

ARTAXERXES I LONGIMANUS DECREE [The 7th Year of His Reign [457 BC]]:

Now after these things, in the reign of Artaxerxes king of Persia, Ezra the son of Seraiah, the son of Azariah, the son of Hilkiah, Ezra 7:1

This Ezra went up from Babylon; and he [was] a ready scribe in the law of Moses, which the LORD God of Israel had given: and the king granted him all his request, according to the hand of the LORD his God upon him. Ezra 7:6

And there went up [some] of the children of Israel, and of the priests, and the Levites, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, unto Jerusalem, in the seventh year of Artaxerxes the king. Ezra 7:7

And he came to Jerusalem in the fifth month, which [was] in the seventh year of the king. Ezra 7:8

For upon the first [day] of the first month began he to go up from Babylon, and on the first [day] of the fifth month came he to Jerusalem, according to the good hand of his God upon him. Ezra 7:9

For Ezra had prepared his heart to seek the law of the LORD, and to do [it], and to teach in Israel statutes and judgments. Ezra 7:10

Now this [is] the copy of the letter that the king Artaxerxes gave unto Ezra the priest, the scribe, [even] a scribe of the words of the commandments of the LORD, and of his statutes to Israel. Ezra 7:11

Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect [peace], and at such a time. Ezra 7:12

I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and [of] his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee. Ezra 7:13

Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven counsellors, to enquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according to the law of thy God which [is] in thine hand; Ezra 7:14

And to carry the silver and gold, which the king and his counsellors have freely offered unto the God of Israel, whose habitation [is] in Jerusalem, Ezra 7:15

And all the silver and gold that thou canst find in all the province of Babylon, with the freewill offering of the people, and of the priests, offering willingly for the house of their God which [is] in Jerusalem: Ezra 7:16

That thou mayest buy speedily with this money bullocks, rams, lambs, with their meat offerings and their drink offerings, and offer them upon the altar of the house of your God which [is] in Jerusalem. Ezra 7:17

And whatsoever shall seem good to thee, and to thy brethren, to do with the rest of the silver and the gold, that do after the will of your God. Ezra 7:18

The vessels also that are given thee for the service of the house of thy God, [those] deliver thou before the God of Jerusalem. Ezra 7:19

And whatsoever more shall be needful for the house of thy God, which thou shalt have occasion to bestow, bestow [it] out of the king's treasure house. Ezra 7:20

And I, [even] I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which [are] beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily, Ezra 7:21

Unto an hundred talents of silver, and to an hundred measures of wheat, and to an hundred baths of wine, and to an hundred baths of oil, and salt without prescribing [how much]. Ezra 7:22

Whatsoever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be diligently done for the house of the God of heaven: for why should there be wrath against the realm of the king and his sons? Ezra 7:23

Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them. Ezra 7:24

And thou, Ezra, after the wisdom of thy God, that [is] in thine hand, set magistrates and judges, which may judge all the people that [are] beyond the river, all such as know the laws of thy God; and teach ye them that know [them] not. Ezra 7:25

And whosoever will not do the law of thy God, and the law of the king, let judgment be executed speedily upon him, whether [it be] unto death, or to banishment, or to confiscation of goods, or to imprisonment. Ezra 7:26

Blessed [be] the LORD God of our fathers, which hath put [such a thing] as this in the king's heart, to beautify the house of the LORD which [is] in Jerusalem: Ezra 7:27

And hath extended mercy unto me before the king, and his counsellors, and before all the king's mighty princes. And I was strengthened as the hand of the LORD my God [was] upon me, and I gathered together out of Israel chief men to go up with me. Ezra 7:28

And they delivered the king's commissions unto the king's lieutenants, and to the governors on this side the river: and they furthered the people, and the house of God. Ezra 8:36

For we [were] bondmen; yet our God hath not forsaken us in our bondage, but hath extended mercy unto us in the sight of the kings of Persia, to give us a reviving, to set up the house of our God, and to repair the desolations thereof, and to give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem. Ezra 9:9

The Completed work was mentioned here:

And the elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they builded, and finished [it], according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia. Ezra 6:14

As for the AD 27, AD 31 and AD 34 dates among others, such as 457 BC, AD 1844, etc for the going forth of the decree, etc, that can certainly be verified beyond question historically.

According to known historical record, Artaxerxes I ruled from 464/465 BC to 424 BC, even from The Chronology of Ezra 7, by Siegfried H Horn & Lynn H Wood - The Chronology of Ezra 7 Siegried h Horn

...and yet further from other known sources, like Ptolemy's Canon [King's List] and Wikipedia:

Ptolemy's Canon - Canon of Kings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ptolemy's Canon

"Artaxerxes I was the sixth king of kings of the Achaemenid Empire from 465 BCE to 424 BCE. He was the son of Xerxes I of Persia and Amestris, daughter of Otanes." [Wikipedia; Artaxerxes I, Longimanus]

"Artaxerxes (Hebrew: אַרְתַּחְשַׁסְתְּא‎, pronounced [artaχʃast]) commissioned Ezra, a Jewish priest-scribe, by means of a letter of decree, to take charge of the ecclesiastical and civil affairs of the Jewish nation. A copy of this decree may be found in Ezra 7:13-28.

Ezra thereby left Babylon in the first month of the seventh year (~ 457 BCE) of Artaxerxes' reign, at the head of a company of Jews that included priests and Levites. They arrived in Jerusalem on the first day of the fifth month of the seventh year (Hebrew Calendar).

The rebuilding of the Jewish community in Jerusalem had begun under Cyrus the Great, who had permitted Jews held captive in Babylon, to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple of Solomon. Consequently, a number of Jews returned to Jerusalem in 538 B.C., and the foundation of this "Second Temple" was laid the following year.

In Artaxerxes' 20th year (444 B.C.)[5], Nehemiah, the king's cupbearer, apparently was also a friend of the king as in that year Artaxerxes inquired after Nehemiah's sadness. Nehemiah related to him the plight of the Jewish people and that the city of Jerusalem was undefended. The king sent Nehemiah to Jerusalem with letters of safe passage to the governors in Trans-Euphrates, and to Asaph, keeper of the royal forests, to make beams for the citadel by the Temple and to rebuild the city walls.[6]"
Wikipedia; Artaxerxes I, Longimanus; Portrayal in the Book of Ezra and Nehemiah

The Fundamentalist · Dec 3, 2014

Another:

"Year 457 BC was a year of the pre-Julian Roman calendar. At the time, it was known as the Year of the Consulship of Pulvillus and Augurinus or Cincinnatus and Vibulanus (or, less frequently, year 297 Ab urbe condita). The denomination 457 BC for this year has been used since the early medieval period, when the Anno Domini calendar era became the prevalent method in Europe for naming years. ...

... Persian Empire

Artaxerxes I decrees that the city government of Jerusalem shall be re-established.[1]" [Wikipedia; 457 BC]

That would place his, Artaxerxes I Longimanus 7th year exactly in 457 BC. Then it is simply a matter of mathematical calculations using the timeframes given in Daniel, and even intermeshing with the Gospel of Lukes historical information.

Many other sources verifying these facts could also be given, but these should suffice, since Wikipedia, though somewhat user-alterable, is still useful for quick verifying.

So, since there are 3 decrees and 1 set of letters in scripture given, the only dates which can apply to the Daniel Prophecy are these (following) alone, and only to one of them can the 483 years be added [69 weeks of the 70 weeks],

[1.] The decree of Cyrus recorded in Ezra 1:1-4. 536 BC

[2.] The decree of Darius I recorded in Ezra 6:1-12. 520 BC

[3.] The decree of Artaxerxes I (Longimanus) recorded in Ezra 7:12-26. 457 BC

[4.] The letters of Artaxerxes mentioned in Nehemiah chapters 1 and 2. 444/445 BC

If we add 483 years [69 weeks of the 70 weeks], and then add 3 1/2 years until Christ's death, and 3 1/2 years until end of 70 weeks] to these dates, notice their timeframes and the impossibility of 3 of them to be relevant:

[1.] 536 BC + 483 years = BC 53 [still BC] + 3 1/2 years = 49/48 BC [still BC] + 3 1/2 years = 45/44 BC [still BC, end of 70 weeks]

[2.] 520 BC + 483 years = BC 37 [still BC] + 3 1/2 years = 33/32 BC [still BC] + 3 1/2 years = 29/28 BC [still BC, end of 70 weeks]

[3.] 457 BC + 483 years = AD 27 [no year 0] + 3 1/2 years = AD 31 + 3 1/2 years = AD 34 [end of 70 weeks]

[4.] 444 BC + 483 years = AD 40 [no year 0] + 3 1/2 years = AD 43/44 + 3 1/2 years = AD 47/48 [end of 70 weeks]

So, of the 4 possibilities, the first two [1. and 2.] are completely out of the question, being entirely too early, as they are not even close to Christ Jesus anointing [or even His birth], and also do not reconcile with the whole of Daniel [especially chapter 11, and the 'tax']. The fourth [4.] is also out of the question, being entirely too late even for His death.

The only option that is even of sense to the prophetic scriptures of Daniel, etc. is obviously the third [3.] choice. Now, this is not merely one of sheer convenience, but rather one of ordered mathematics, rulerships of kings and heads of state, scripture and God's providence.

We know by so many texts and historical record that it was indeed the year AD 31 in which Christ Jesus [Messiah the Prince] died, fulfilling Prophecy to the exact specifications set forth so many millennia ago in the Word of God.

457 BC is the beginning of the Decree in Ezra 7 and thus the 2300 day/years also ended in 1844 [and we can also know this by other corresponding prophecies preceding it which were also fulfilled].

[having begun in 457 BC; Ezra 7, etc [457 BC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Artaxerxes I of Persia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [File:Ezrachonology.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]]:

Notice Lukes Historical account:

Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene, Luke 3:1

[Tiberius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [File:TwentySevenAD.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Pontius Pilate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Philip the Tetrarch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Herod the Great - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]

As for the Daniel 9 passages, the internal consistency requires it to be Jesus Christ being referred to, and for the day/year principle.

Jesus was anointed as Christ [Messiah] in AD 27 [6 months into John the Baptist Ministry, which began in AD 26*], according to scripture at His Baptism in the River Jordan, and recognized as such by not only John the Baptist [the forerunner], but by the Holy Spirit and God the Father. It was not at the triumphal entry. Jesus then preached for 3 ½ years according to scripture, and thus the first half of the final 70th week was fulfilled in AD 31 at the Cross when Christ Jesus was cut off but not for himself, and the final 3 ½ years were fulfilled by the disciples and Apostles according to Hebrews 2:3 [confirmed first by Jesus, see last supper testament/covenant in my blood shed for all etc, then by those which heard him], and thus the council rejected not only Christ Jesus in AD 31, but also those whom He sent like Stephen which died in AD 34. From then onward the Gospel goes to the Gentiles through the dispersion and Paul..:

*...to determining when the reign of Tiberius Caesar started.[38] The traditional approach is that the reign of Tiberius started when he became co-regent in 11AD, placing the start of the ministry of John the Baptist around 26 AD. ... - [Wikipedia; "Baptism of Jesus"] - Baptism of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Fundamentalist · Dec 3, 2014

... [The Jubilee Standard Volume 1; May 29, 1845; Volume 1, New York City, Thursday, Number 12., [section] Prophetic Chronology Continued Samuel Sheffield Snow] We come now to an examination of chronological dates. And let it not be forgotten that, as we have proved, the 70 weeks must have commenced on the 10th day of 7th month. The date of the year assigned for their commencement is B. C. 457. There has been some diversity of opinion among chronologists, as to the correctness of that date; but the majority of standard writers on chronology have agreed on that as the true date. Not only so, but recent investigations have resulted in its confirmation. Among other testimony on this point, we give the following, from an article on prophetic chronology, by N. N. Whiting, published in the Advent Shield, No. 1:

According to the Edinburgh Encyclopedia, there was an Eclipse of the sun, April 30, B. C. 464, which was followed by the assassination of Xerxes by Artabanus. Artaxerxes succeeded Xerxes. Hence we may fix his accession to the throne between the months which have been named, (July and November,) in the year B. C. 464. His first year would, therefore, embrace part of 464 and part of 463 B. C. Nisan (the first month) in his year consequently, falls in B. C. 463. His seventh year would commence in B. C. 458, (not earlier than Ab, the fifth month,) and end B. C. 457. And, therefore, the first day of the first month, (Nisan) when Ezra left Babylon, was in the same year, B. C. 457.

The commencement of the reign of Artaxerxes can be ascertained by another process.

The battle of Arbela put an end to the Persian monarchy. This battle was preceded by an eclipse of the moon, which occurred September 20th, B. C. 331, eleven days previous to the battle. See Arrians Life of Alexander, B. III., chap. 7; Quintus Curtius, B. IV. chap. 39; Plutarchs Life of Alexander, and Fugresons Table of Eclipses, in his Astronomy. The Canon of Ptolemy furnishes a history of the kings of Persia, with the period of each reign. He omits those who did not hold the throne a full year, by reckoning the months of their reign partly to the preceding and partly to the succeeding monarch. Thus Xerxes II. and Sogdianus began to reign B. C. 224. The former reigned two months, and the latter seven. Neither are named by Ptolemy; still these nine months, being applied to the reign of Artaxerxes Longimanus and Darius Nothus, no time is actually lost by his computation. Availing ourselves of the date of the battle of Arbela, which has been noticed, we can employ the Canon, and ascertain the era when Artaxerxes took the crown, by reckoning backward. ...

... to the beginning of the reign of Artexerxes. If we add 133 to the year B. C. 331, we learn the result 464 B. C.

Thus we see that by two different methods, including both Astronomical and Historical proof, we arrive at the same result, viz., that Artexerxes began his reign in the year B. C. 464, and, consequently, that his seventh year commenced in the year B. C. 458, and embraced a part of the following year. It follows, therefore, that Ezra left Babylon in the first month of B. C. 457, and the commandment went forth in the seventh month of the same year. From that point, 2300 years terminate in the seventh month, A. D. 1844. The next point to be considered is the date of the commencement of our Lords public preaching. This is a point of great importance, as it marks distinctly the termination of the sixty-nine weeks and the beginning of the last week of the seventy. And if, after a careful examination, we find it to harmonize with B. C. 457, which has been ascertained to be the true starting point, it will serve to confirm that date, and make assurance doubly sure.

In arriving at that date several steps are necessary. And first we will notice the fact that there was a difference of about six months between the ages of John the Baptist and our Lord. As proof of this, see Luke 1:24-37. In the next place let it be understood that John was a Levite, and of the order of the priesthood, Luke 1:5. According to the Law his ministry could not commence until he was thirty years of age: see Numbers 4:3, 23, 30, 35, 39, 43, 47; 1 Chronicles 23:3. As the birth of Jesus could not have been later in the year than December, the birth of John could not have been later than the preceding June. He was, therefore, thirty years old in the spring or in June, when he must have begun his ministry.

This was in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Casar---not of his sole reign, but of his administration, reckoned from the time when he was associated with his uncle Augustus in the government. The following remarks on the subject are from Horne:---We learn from the Roman historians that the reign of Tiberius had two commencements: the first, when he was admitted to a place in the empire, (but without the title of Emperor,) in August, of the year 764, from the foundation of the city of Rome, three years before the death of Augustus; and the second, when he began to reign alone after that Emperors decease. It is from the first of these commencements that the fifteenth year, mentioned by St. Luke, is to be computed, who, as Tiberius did not assume the imperial title during the life of Augustus, makes use of a word which properly marks the nature of the power exercised by Tiberius, namely, In the fifteenth year tés hégemonias [i.e. of the administration] of Tiberius Casar, etc. Intro. B. I. p. 564.

Augustus died August 19th A. D. 14. And as Tiberius was united with him three years before, his administration must have commenced in August A. D. 11. From that point fourteen full years extend to August A. D. 25, when, of course, his fifteenth year began, which, reaching to August A. D. 26, would necessarily embrace that point of time at which John began his ministry. We come, then, to this result, that the ministry of John the Baptist began in the early part of A. D. 26.

Our Lord, being about six months younger that John, was thirty years of age in the autumn or in December following. About that time he was baptized; see Luke 3:21-23. After his baptism he attended a passover feast at Jerusalem; see John 2:3, 23. This was in the Spring, and, as it was the first spring after his baptism, must certainly have been in A. D. 27. After this he came into the land of Judea with his disciples, where he tarried and baptized. At the same time John was baptizing in Enon, not being yet cast into prison; see John 3:22-24. We may, therefore, rest assured that as late as the summer or autumn of A. D. 27, Johns imprisonment had not taken place.

But Jesus did not commence the confirming of the covenant, by his public preaching and his public miracles, until after the imprisonment of John. Matthew 4:12, 17, Now, when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mark 1:14, 15 Now, after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent ye, and the believe the gospel. Acts 10:37, That word I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached. Thus Matthew, Mark, and Peter, all testify that the public proclamation of the gospel by our Lord, began soon after the imprisonment of John. As that must have occurred in the summer or autumn of A. D. 27, the public preaching of Christ, accompanied by the confirmatory. Proofs of miracles publicly wrought, by which he was fully manifested to Israel and proved to be the true Messiah, did not commence till the autumn of A. D. 27. And that, it is very evident, must have been the true date.

But will this harmonize with the date B. C. 457? Let us see. From one point to the other there must be 69 weeks, i.e. 483 years. Suppose, then, the period to have embraced the whole of B. C. 457, there would then be needed 26 full years to make it complete. It would then extend from the first day of B. C. 457 to the first day of A. D. 27. But, as we have clearly proved, the period began on the 10th day of the 7th month. A part of B. C. 457 is not, therefore, to be included in the reckoning, and this deficiency must be made up by the addition of a part of A. D. 27. We see, then, that these two dates agree, and the 69 weeks which commenced in the 7th month B. C. 457, terminated in the 7th month A. D. 27. Then Jesus began to confirm the covenant, and on the 10th day of the first month of A. D. 31, he caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease, and four days after that the nailed the hand writing of ordinances to his cross.

The argument of Ferguson, that the death of our Lord must have occurred in A. D. 33, is not valid. It is based upon the assumption that the Rabbinical Jews are correct in their mode of reckoning the year. Were that true, the argument would be perfect and irrefutable. The crucifixion was evidently on Friday, the day before the Sabbath. See John 19:31; Mark 15:42. It was also on the day of the Passover; John 18:28. Now, admitting the Rabbinical Jews to be correct, we find by astronomical calculation, that the Passover full moon occurred on Friday, in the year 33, and not for several years before or after. But the Caraite Jews accuse the others of corrupting the Law in this matter, in other words, of adopting the customs of the heathen in their mode of reckoning time. And on examination we find the charge to be just. The Law imperatively required the presentation of the first-fruits sheaf, or handful, as a wave-offering, on the 16th day of the first month. But if the year be commenced, according to the Rabbinical Jews, with the new moon in March, it would be impossible to obey this requisition of the Law. For the grain would not be ripe in the first month. The Caraites, who adhere rigidly to the Law, usually commence the year one moon later than do the others; the one class regulating their year by the vernal equinox, after the manner of the Romans,the other by the ripening of the barely harvest, according to the requirements of the Mosaic Law. The Caraite computation is consequently correct; and the argument of Ferguson, based upon the Rabbinical reckoning, falls to the ground. The death of our Lord was not, therefore, in A. D. 33.

But let us see if it was not in A. D. 31. ... The Jews began their months with the first visible appearance of the new moon. When its change took place early in the morning it would be visible the same evening, and the first day of the month, would be the day following. And as there are between fourteen and fifteen days from the change of the moon to the full, and the passover was always the fourteenth day of the month, it would, in this case, occur on the very day of the full moon. But when the moon changed at a later hour in the day, it could not be visible the same evening. In that case the first day of the month would be the second day after the moons change, and, consequently, the fourteenth day of the month would be the day following the full. We find upon examination that this must have been the case with the Caraite first month, A. D. 31.

We find also, that in A. D. 33 the full moon was on the 3rd day of April. From one full moon to another are about 291/2 days. The Caraite passover in that year would be on the 3rd day of May. As the lunar months fall behind the solar 11 days every year, so, in reckoning backward from A. D. 33 to A. D. 31, there must be an addition of 11 days to each year, making, for the two years 22 days. We see, then, that as in A. D. 33 the full moon was on the 3rd of May, it must have occurred on the 25th of May in A. D. 31. The true passover day must therefore have been either the 25th or 26th of May in that year.

Again, in the Appendix Townsends arrangement of the New Testament will be found a very accurate table, exhibiting the time of the occurrence of the passover (according to the Rabbinical Jews,) during our Saviours life. In that table it is placed for A. D. 31, Tuesday, April 25th. Assuming this as undoubtedly correct, we shall find that 291/2 days, which make a lunar month, extend to Thursday, May 25th. And as there is a small excess over 291/2 days in a lunar month, and also over 11 days to a year in the precession of the moons changes, it came to the full in the latter part of the day. Consequently the passover was on the day following, which was Friday. We come, then, to this conclusion, that our Lord was crucified, on Friday, May 26th, A. D. 31. S. ... [The Jubilee Standard Volume 1; May 29, 1845; Volume 1, New York City, Thursday, Number 12., [section] Prophetic Chronology Continued Samuel Sheffield Snow] - The Jubilee Standard, Vol. 1 -- Ellen G. White Writings

The Fundamentalist · Dec 3, 2014

ANTI-TYPE OF MANNA; SCRIPTURE:

Sixth Day, the Seventh Day and the First Day...

First let us see the Type in Exodus 16:

I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak unto them, saying, At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning ye shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God. Exodus 16:12

And it came to pass, that at even the quails came up, and covered the camp: and in the morning the dew lay round about the host. Exodus 16:13

And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground. Exodus 16:14

And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which the LORD hath given you to eat. Exodus 16:15

This is the thing which the LORD hath commanded, Gather of it every man according to his eating, an omer for every man, according to the number of your persons; take ye every man for them which are in his tents. Exodus 16:16

And the children of Israel did so, and gathered, some more, some less. Exodus 16:17

And when they did mete it with an omer, he that gathered much had nothing over, and he that gathered little had no lack; they gathered every man according to his eating. Exodus 16:18

And Moses said, Let no man leave of it till the morning. Exodus 16:19

Notwithstanding they hearkened not unto Moses; but some of them left of it until the morning, and it bred worms, and stank: and Moses was wroth with them. Exodus 16:20

And they gathered it every morning, every man according to his eating: and when the sun waxed hot, it melted. Exodus 16:21

And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses. Exodus 16:22

And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. Exodus 16:23

And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. Exodus 16:24

And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field. Exodus 16:25

Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none. Exodus 16:26

And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none. Exodus 16:27

And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws? Exodus 16:28

See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. Exodus 16:29

So the people rested on the seventh day. Exodus 16:30

And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey. Exodus 16:31

And Moses said, This is the thing which the LORD commandeth, Fill an omer of it to be kept for your generations; that they may see the bread wherewith I have fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt. Exodus 16:32

And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omer full of manna therein, and lay it up before the LORD, to be kept for your generations. Exodus 16:33

As the LORD commanded Moses, so Aaron laid it up before the Testimony, to be kept. Exodus 16:34

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. Deuteronomy 8:3

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Matthew 4:4

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Luke 4:4

Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. Psalms 16:9

For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Psalms 16:10

That he should still live for ever, and not see corruption. Psalms 49:9

Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 2:27

He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. Acts 2:31

God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. Acts 13:33

And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Acts 13:34

Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 13:35

For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption: Acts 13:36

But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption. Acts 13:37

John Chapter 6,

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. John 6:63

As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. John 6:57

Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. John 6:27

What is this "meat which endureth"? It is the "words" that Jesus speaks to us. That is eternal life. What must we do about His "words", his teachings? We must "believe on Him" [Jesus] whom the Father has sent.

Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. John 6:29

And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:40

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47

However, many of the crowd simply did not want to believe in/on Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of God, being God, the I AM [especially as the only way] without some great sign, even though a little earlier they had all just been fed and been full physically from so very little bread and fish. They wanted a way in salvation apart from Jesus, they wanted a way of works, not of faith which works.

They did not want to understand that "He came down from Heaven" and said, "Is not this...the son of Joseph?" They did not want to take Jesus on faith. He is the living Manna.

Jesus pointed out that even those who had been fed from miraculous manna from heaven, all had still died [and are still dead to this day, awaiting their resurrection "at the last day"; John 6:40], but those who believed on Him, the True manna, He says would not permanantly die in the 2nd death, but would sleep in death until their resurrection and would live forever, neither thirst, nor hunger.

And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. John 6:35

I am that bread of life. John 6:48

This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. John 6:58

Not as their fathers who ate the flakes, wafers of manna, but truly Christ Jesus is the living Bread, the "Way", "Truth" and "Life". We must believe on Him unto salvation, and follow in His steps by His grace, obey His words, practice what He says.

Jesus was speaking of Himself as the Messiah and Saviour, thus speaking Himself as the Messiah, the very Son of God, to believe upon and the example to follow:

This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. John 6:50

Jesus human "Flesh" and "Blood" did not come down from heaven, but He and His doctrine, His Way have. Notice how Jesus Himself lives, "by the Father" [even as he says, "...I have meat to eat that ye know not of." John 4:32; and what was this "meat"? "My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work." John 4:32], and so likewise we, also, by Him by heeding His words, following His example and keeping/doing His Commandments [Ten Commandments]:

As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. John 6:57

That is eats of His Word...

Jesus makes it abundantly clear that His words are Spirit:

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. John 6:63

Peter, himself, acknowledges that Jesus has the Words of Life because that He is the Messiah:

Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. John 6:68

Jesus makes known who did not have eternal life and why they did not, it was because they belived not on Him, as the Christ, even though they had seen Him and the works He performed:

But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. John 6:35

And the entirety of the Chapter of John 6 is summed up in this one verse:

And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God. John 6:69

That is the whole point of John 6, declaring Jesus to be the Christ, the Son of God, from personal experience and personal acknowledgment, and to follow Him.

John 6 is focusing on who is "the Christ, the Son of the living God" and who "believe[d]" "on Him" and who did not.

It is Belief in Christ Jesus as the "Son of the living God", the Messiah, the Christ, God manifest in the likeness of the human sinful flesh, the sent of the Father, the Saviour, etc that is the focus.

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3

We are to "eat" and "drink" His words, for they are spirit and are life.

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 1 Corinthians 10:1

And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 1 Corinthians 10:2

And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 1 Corinthians 10:3

And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 1 Corinthians 10:4

But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 1 Corinthians 10:5

The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? John 6:52

And Moses said, This shall be, when the LORD shall give you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full; for that the LORD heareth your murmurings which ye murmur against him: and what are we? your murmurings are not against us, but against the LORD. Exodus 16:8

And the mixt multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat? Numbers 11:4

Whence should I have flesh to give unto all this people? for they weep unto me, saying, Give us flesh, that we may eat. Numbers 11:13

And say thou unto the people, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow, and ye shall eat flesh: for ye have wept in the ears of the LORD, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for it was well with us in Egypt: therefore the LORD will give you flesh, and ye shall eat. Numbers 11:18

We see that Christ is the True manna, even the Word of God [John 1:1], the Bread that came down from Heaven. Just as the bread was for 6 days and on the 7th it was not to be found in the field [which is a symbol of the world; Matthew 13:38], so too Christ was not found in the world, being buried in the Tomb. Though Christ was dead, and buried, His flesh did not see corruption on the 7th Day, even as the Manna saw no corruption on the 7th Day.

On the very next day, being the first [day] of the week, we see Christ Jesus arisen from the dead, and preserved forever, never to see corruption, nor death again, and so too likewise the Manna which was uncorrupted was gathered into the Golden Pot, and placed before the Ark [symbol of the Throne of God], even as Christ Jesus ascended that very morning for the first time to the Father.

The Fundamentalist · Dec 6, 2014

Church of Ireland; Irish Clergyman and Scientific Writer:

William Hales (AD 8 April 1747 AD 30 January 1831) on Daniel 7:25, 8:14, 9:24:

Daniel 7:25, 8:14, 9:24:

... [page 11] 3. If now we count forward ... the prophetic division of the 1260 years ... and included perhaps in that specified by Daniel VIII, 13-14, as of consisting of "2300 [page 11-12] prophetic days, or years," will be closed; supposing it to commence with Daniel's "70 prophetic weeks," or 490 years ...

... And according to the still more sagacious conjecture, of the learned and worthy Layman - (and Irishman too, were I at liberty to divulge his name) - in a Comment on the Revelation, 8vo, 1787, Payne, reckoning the 70 weeks the former branch of the grand prophetic period of 2300 days - and the latter 2300 - 490 = 1810 ...

... [page 76] (at the end of the grand prophetic period of 2300 days, Dan. VIII. 14.) ...

... [page 145] and the commencement of Daniel's 70 weeks, (forming the first branch of the grand prophetic period of 2300 days, VIII. 14.) ...

... [page 199] the amazing commentary, as it is the further illustration of the grand prophetic period of 2300 days in the preceeding chapter, Dan. VIII. ...

... [page 206] the assumed commencement of the 70 weeks, and also of the grand prophetic period of 2300 days ...

... [page 207] 26. And after the sixty and two weeks, before specified, as the largest division of the 70, was the Anointed [Leader] "cut off" judicially, by an iniquitous sentence, in the midst of the one week, which formed the third and last division, and began with our Lord's Baptism, about AD 27 - "When he was beginning to be thirty years of age," and commenced his mission, which lasted three years and half until his crucifixion, about AD 31.

27. During this one week, which ended about AD 34, (about the martyrdom of Stephan,) a new covenant was established with many of the Jews, of every class; in the midst of which the Temple sacrifice was virtually abrogated by the all-sufficient sacrifice of the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the [repentant and believing] world. ...

... [page 259]

Grand Prophetic Period of 2300 days - 149
First Division, 70 Weeks, or 490 years - 200
The 7 Weeks - - - - - 205
62 Weeks - - - - - - 207
1 Weeks - - - - - 207,208
Second Division, 1810 Years - - - .ib.
1260 Days (Note a) - - - -8,63
1290 Days - - - - - 34
1335 Days - - - - - 35 ... [The Inspector, or Select Literary Intelligence for the Vulgar; AD 1798 [select pages], written in 1799] - http://books.google.com/books?id=-aAPAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

LittleLambofJesus · Dec 7, 2014

The Fundamentalist said:
Jesus said, "as Jonas was three days and three nights", The When? + Spices?

This thread is to consider the following words of Jesus as found recorded for us in Matthew 12:38-42, 16:1-4 and Luke 11:29-32:

Context of Matthew 12:38-42 KJV - [38] Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. [39] But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: [40] For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [41] The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas [is] here. [42] The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon [is] here.

Context of Matthew 16:1-4 KJV - [1] The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. [2] He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, [It will be] fair weather: for the sky is red. [3] And in the morning, [It will be] foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O [ye] hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not [discern] the signs of the times? [4] A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

Context of Luke 11:29-32 KJV - [29] And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. [30] For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation. [31] The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon [is] here. [32] The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas [is] here.

Ok. According to the Scriptures, and not human speculation, let us ask some questions, and seek for their answers in the Bible.

First question.

Who is asking Jesus for a "sign"?

Let us be specific to the Scriptures, and so cite the relevant portion of the verse ~~in quotation along with the verse reference.~~

The corrupt murderous Judean Rulers

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary
JESUS AND THE APOSTLES VS THE CORRUPT JUDEAN RULERS

Matt 12:38
Then answered Him some of the Scribes and Pharisees saying "we are willing from Thee a Sign to be seeing".
39 The yet answering, He said to them "a generation, wicked and adulteress, is seeking for a Sign
and a Sign not shall be being given to it. except the Sign of Jonah the Prophet."

1 Corinthians 1:22
Since also Judeans ask for a sign and Greeks seek wisdom, [Luke 11:29]

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Jesus said, "as Jonas was three days and three nights", The When? + Spices?

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Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!

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