Texas Woman Denied Drivers License Over Same-Sex Marriage

Brigid48 · Sep 22, 2014

Saw this on another forum, thought it would be a good topic for discussion here. Her name was legally changed in california after she married her partner and took her partner's last name. Texas decided to deny her the ability to obtain a driver's license when she and her partner moved to the backwards, backwater state.

As of right now Texas is not only violating the Constitution (Full Faith and Credit Clause) by denying her name change despite teh state and federal documents proving her name change, but they are also violating the Constitution by disenfranchising her, as Texas is a Photo-ID state for voting.
Texas Woman Denied Driver's License over Same-Sex Marriage

A woman who recently relocated from California says the Texas Department of Public Safety refused to issue her an accurate drivers license because her last name was changed through a same-sex marriage.

After Connie Wilson married her partner of nine years in California last year, she took her wifes last name, Wilson, which now appears on both her California drivers license and her Social Security card, in addition to all of the couples financial and medical records.

This summer, the couple relocated to the Houston area with their three children for work. With her California drivers license nearing expiration, Wilson took her documents to a DPS office in Katy last week to obtain a Texas drivers license. When a DPS employee noticed that Wilsons name didnt match her birth certificate, she produced the couples California marriage license identifying her spouse as Aimee Wilson.

She immediately told me, You cant use this to get your license. This doesnt validate your last name. Do you have anything else? Wilson said. She told me I would never get a license with my current name, that the name doesnt belong to me.

In response to inquiries from the Observer, DPS confirmed that people moving to Texas from other states cant obtain drivers licenses listing their married names using same-sex marriage licenses.

Okano · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
Saw this on another forum, thought it would be a good topic for discussion here. Her name was legally changed in california after she married her partner and took her partner's last name. Texas decided to deny her the ability to obtain a driver's license when she and her partner moved to the backwards, backwater state.

As of right now Texas is not only violating the Constitution (Full Faith and Credit Clause) by denying her name change despite teh state and federal documents proving her name change, but they are also violating the Constitution by disenfranchising her, as Texas is a Photo-ID state for voting.
Texas Woman Denied Driver's License over Same-Sex Marriage

I think the government of Texas is still guided by the commands of God and that is why this turned out the way it did for this woman.

Brigid48 · Sep 22, 2014

Okano said:
I think the government of Texas is still guided by the commands of God and that is why this turned out the way it did for this woman.

Lol, nice Poe-job.

kermit · Sep 22, 2014

Okano said:
I think the government of Texas is still guided by the commands of God and that is why this turned out the way it did for this woman.

Joykins · Sep 22, 2014

Okano said:
I think the government of Texas is still guided by the commands of God and that is why this turned out the way it did for this woman.

God wants Texas to require people to have ID but not require Texas to issue them an ID?

Proud Parrot · Sep 22, 2014

Belk · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
Saw this on another forum, thought it would be a good topic for discussion here. Her name was legally changed in california after she married her partner and took her partner's last name. Texas decided to deny her the ability to obtain a driver's license when she and her partner moved to the backwards, backwater state.

As of right now Texas is not only violating the Constitution (Full Faith and Credit Clause) by denying her name change despite teh state and federal documents proving her name change, but they are also violating the Constitution by disenfranchising her, as Texas is a Photo-ID state for voting.
Texas Woman Denied Driver's License over Same-Sex Marriage

Well that was silly on their part.

He is Risen 72 · Sep 22, 2014

I’m sure this just shocked them to death just finding out Texas’s position on gay marriage. I guess the internet doesn’t work in California anymore.

MachZer0 · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
Saw this on another forum, thought it would be a good topic for discussion here. Her name was legally changed in california after she married her partner and took her partner's last name. Texas decided to deny her the ability to obtain a driver's license when she and her partner moved to the backwards, backwater state.

As of right now Texas is not only violating the Constitution (Full Faith and Credit Clause) by denying her name change despite teh state and federal documents proving her name change, but they are also violating the Constitution by disenfranchising her, as Texas is a Photo-ID state for voting.
Texas Woman Denied Driver's License over Same-Sex Marriage

Texas doesn't recognize the name change just like California wouldn't recognize Texas' right to carry gun laws. She simply needs to apply for a license using the name appropriate in Texas. Problem solved

Brigid48 · Sep 22, 2014

MachZer0 said:
Texas doesn't recognize the name change just like California wouldn't recognize Texas' right to carry gun laws. She simply needs to apply for a license using the name appropriate in Texas. Problem solved

Sorry, but nope. Texas is require by constitutional law to recognize her name change, and the SS card, other-state driver's license, etc., where it is displayed. Texas is essentially taking a big honking crap on the constitution here.

MachZer0 · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
Sorry, but nope. Texas is require by constitutional law to recognize her name change, and the SS card, other-state driver's license, etc., where it is displayed. Texas is essentially taking a big honking crap on the constitution here.

Nope,that's a misunderstanding. And her other state Drivers' license is not in question. It's a Texas license that is at issue.

Brigid48 · Sep 22, 2014

MachZer0 said:
Nope,that's a misunderstanding. And her other state Drivers' license is not in question. It's a Texas license that is at issue.

Texas is required by law to give her driver's license from the otehr state, as well as the rest of her documents, full faith and credit. They have failed to do so and are denying her the Texas license because they are bigoted constitution-violators.

MachZer0 · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
Texas is required by law to give her driver's license from the otehr state, as well as the rest of her documents, full faith and credit. They have failed to do so and are denying her the Texas license because they are bigoted constitution-violators.

They haven't failed. Her drivers' license from California is still valid. She just can't get one in Texas using that name

GenetoJean · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
Texas is required by law to give her driver's license from the otehr state, as well as the rest of her documents, full faith and credit. They have failed to do so and are denying her the Texas license because they are bigoted constitution-violators.

I agree but I kind of agree with a part of Mach's post; if full faith and credit counts for drivers liscenses (and I think it should) then it should work for concealed carry liscenses.

Brigid48 · Sep 22, 2014

MachZer0 said:
They haven't failed. Her drivers' license from California is still valid. She just can't get one in Texas using that name

False. She can, legally, they are simply violating her Constitutional rights and basic constitutional law because they're bigots.

They are requierd by the constitution, to accept the documents she gave them, and give her a Texas ID using her new name.

MachZer0 · Sep 22, 2014

GenetoJean said:
I agree but I kind of agree with a part of Mach's post; if full faith and credit counts for drivers liscenses (and I think it should) then it should work for concealed carry liscenses.

And income tax, and sales tax, and on and on

Brigid48 · Sep 22, 2014

GenetoJean said:
I agree but I kind of agree with a part of Mach's post; if full faith and credit counts for drivers liscenses (and I think it should) then it should work for concealed carry liscenses.

I have no problem with that. But that needs to go through a supreme court challenge (which it should pass so idiotic things like that woman in New Jersey facing prison never happens). The drivers license stuff (not to mention federal documentation like her SS card), however, has already been long decided. For decades.

MachZer0 · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
False. She can, legally, they are simply violating her Constitutional rights and basic constitutional law because they're bigots.

They are requierd by the constitution, to accept the documents she gave them, and give her a Texas ID using her new name.

They may be required to accept the provided documents, but they aren't required to provide her with a Texas document unless she complies with Texas law. She simply needs to apply using the name on her birth certificate

MachZer0 · Sep 22, 2014

Brigid48 said:
I have no problem with that. But that needs to go through a supreme court challenge (which it should pass so idiotic things like that woman in New Jersey facing prison never happens). The drivers license stuff (not to mention federal documentation like her SS card), however, has already been long decided. For decades.

Why should a concealed carry issue have to go through a Supreme Court challenge but this drivers' license issue shouldn't?

Brigid48 · Sep 22, 2014

MachZer0 said:
They may be required to accept the provided documents, but they aren't required to provide her with a Texas document unless she complies with Texas law. She simply needs to apply using the name on her birth certificate

False. she complied with Texas law completely. She provided every piece of information and document needed. Texas decided to violate her constitutional protections due to their bigotry. They'er literally required to provide her with the document as all of her documents are required by law to be accepted by them.

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