Are there contradictions in the bible

I think the most dangerous contradictions are between the teachings of Jesus and Paul. This videos below provides an extensive research on the potentially errant teachings of Paul.

There are many more teachings in OT that conflicts the Gospels but often, the contradictions are borne out of wrong interpretations by Christians themselves which on many accounts, contain biases towards accumulation of wealth, promise of long and good life (on Earth) - nice things everyone, even wicked person want! The Gospel teaches clearly against it! The Gospel makes a very clear distinction between the wicked and the righteous. The righteous are quite alien by worldly standards and they are quite few literally!

Part 1

Apostle Paul is a ravening wolf Pt 1 - YouTube

Part 2 and so on and so forth..

Apostle Paul is a Ravening Wolf Pt 2 - YouTube

Apostle Paul is a Ravening Wolf Pt 3 - YouTube

Apostle Paul is a Ravening Wolf Pt 4 - 1 Corinthians - YouTube

Apostle Paul is a Ravening Wolf Pt 5 - 2 Peter - YouTube

Apostle Paul is a Ravening Wolf Pt 6 - Book of Acts and James - YouTube

We should also look at the task Paul was given...to explain " all this" to "all them" that were firmly rooted in law.

There are "seemingly" manifold apparent contradictions and they are there for reason and purpose. When the true disciple finds one of these apparent "contradictions" he immediately seeks to reconcile it within the writings and his doctrine. When he reconciles the seemingly apparent contradiction the same then washes over his entire doctrine and rebuilds it to conform to the new understanding so that nothing is amiss. After long time in this kind of walk, in continually performing this task, the doctrine of the disciple begins to be perfected and impenetrable. At the end the Master returns and destroys all of it in one final trial by fire. If the disciple overcome in that hour he is no more male or female but like the angels of heaven, (and time shall be no more). The naysayer on the other hand goes looking for apparent contradictions and when he finds one he says; See here! I told you so! And happily on his way he goes looking for more. So the one receives the Urim white light stone from the high priest having a new name written therein; but the other receives the Tummim black light stone of the blackness of darkness forever.

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there are MANY who went to bible school, (not meaning to offend, but it’s the truth), yet still don’t understand Jehovah God’s words). The knowledge of God’s words DON’T come from MANS ,schooling. Because it’s taught by others who may NOT have Jehovah God’s HS. The ministers in Jesus time, THOUGHT, they had true knowledge of God’s word. Yet Jesus read them well, (John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it). also Those who TRULY followed Jesus DIDN’T go to ANY school, yet they were qualified by God to teach. And they continued, even if they had to run from those who were having them arrested ,(Acts 8:4). What they learned, they learned from Jesus, who ONLY taught the truth.

many learning’s isn’t always in connection with Jesus and Jehovah Gods words. We have to ask Jehovah God for help in understanding his words , (James 1:5). I’ve listen many who went to bible school, and I’ve always found myself saying things like, no, that’s not what Jehovah or Jesus words meant. all ANYONE has to do is research, if they really want to know the truth. So instead of telling others to do it so to “persuade” you, Why don’t you… do the research yourself? Sorry but even a child can learn and speak God’s words, (Matt.[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'] [/FONT]19:14), if Jehovah wants him to, and he does! Even though Paul was chosen by Jesus, and taught the truth, Timothy STILL wentand done research.

ANY of God’s words, which were taught in the original language. Is still taught today but in language of the different people today. Still that doesn’t mean Jehovah God and Jesus true words are contradictory. It’s humans who’s NOT truly following Jesus, (John 17:16 , Luke 9:23) , who WON’T understand God’s words ,(Dan. 12:10). And for those who WANTS to serve God, they have to be willing to give up the false teachings and find the truth ,(Rom. 10:2). many have to understand satan is the cause of everything negative. Which includes confusion, which isn’t something Jehovah God wants, (1Cor. 14:33,40 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let all things be done decently and in order).

Jehovah God doesn’t contradict himself, nor does Jesus. It was satan who had men ,(unknowingly) , replaced, removed, and add to Jehovah and Jesus words. First as I said for confusions, secondly, to keep many from learning the truth. When Jehovah’s servants and Jesus true followers show them. Here two in which many feels contradictory, … John 10:30 I and my Father are one, (many I’ve heard say this meant they are one or the same being). verses John 15:23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also ,(he CLEARLY shows he has a Father). Jesus DIDN’T contradict himself, he knew him and his Father were/are on the same accord. Again, satan put confusing in man. And he keeps many who refuse to learn the truth in confusion , (2Cor. 4:4).

Many need to understand when God’s word says wicked, or many are blinded, it doesn’t JUST mean, those who do evil, or refuse to know God. MANY doesn’t want to know the God’s of Israel, (Pro. 1:28-32), which satan HAS blinded. Even if they claim to be Christians, which is why Jesus word says at (Matt. 7:22,23). Or this one which seems to contradict the cross thing ,( Matt. 10:38 , Mark 15:32 ,Luke 9:23). Men who followed Jesus saying he was "nail to a cross. Paul wrote these books ,(1Cor. 1:7 ,Gal. 5:11 and Philp.2:8), each one saying “cross.” YET he also wrote verses saying "tree" ,(Acts 5:30 , Gal. 3:13, and Acts 13:29). Peter who wrote the books bearing his name , (1Pet. 2:24), also mentions "tree."
Question why did all these men who followed Jesus say "cross", if it really wasn’t? and why did Paul, who became a TRUE follower of Jesus say “cross” in Gal. 5:11 ,yet say “tree” in Gal. 3:13?, same book! Before these men were born, scriptures showed humans were nail on trees ,(Duet. 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree), Ah… Moses wrote the book of Deuteronomy! Again satan placed a part in having men add the "cross." Paul certainly wouldn’t have said "cross" if it wasn’t so, Neither would the Apostles. Satan KNEW this would cause confusion especially for those who didn’t want to be seen differently. Again maybe YOU… should do some research. Peace

daq said:

There are "seemingly" manifold apparent contradictions and they are there for reason and purpose. When the true disciple finds one of these apparent "contradictions" he immediately seeks to reconcile it within the writings and his doctrine. When he reconciles the seemingly apparent contradiction the same then washes over his entire doctrine and rebuilds it to conform to the new understanding so that nothing is amiss. After long time in this kind of walk, in continually performing this task, the doctrine of the disciple begins to be perfected and impenetrable. At the end the Master returns and destroys all of it in one final trial by fire. If the disciple overcome in that hour he is no more male or female but like the angels of heaven, (and time shall be no more). The naysayer on the other hand goes looking for apparent contradictions and when he finds one he says; See here! I told you so! And happily on his way he goes looking for more. So the one receives the Urim white light stone from the high priest having a new name written therein; but the other receives the Tummim black light stone of the blackness of darkness forever.

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daq said:

There are "seemingly" manifold apparent contradictions and they are there for reason and purpose. When the true disciple finds one of these apparent "contradictions" he immediately seeks to reconcile it within the writings and his doctrine. When he reconciles the seemingly apparent contradiction the same then washes over his entire doctrine and rebuilds it to conform to the new understanding so that nothing is amiss. After long time in this kind of walk, in continually performing this task, the doctrine of the disciple begins to be perfected and impenetrable. At the end the Master returns and destroys all of it in one final trial by fire. If the disciple overcome in that hour he is no more male or female but like the angels of heaven, (and time shall be no more). The naysayer on the other hand goes looking for apparent contradictions and when he finds one he says; See here! I told you so! And happily on his way he goes looking for more. So the one receives the Urim white light stone from the high priest having a new name written therein; but the other receives the Tummim black light stone of the blackness of darkness forever.

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Wow. This actually made sense to me. And it rings very true.

JoJo50 said:

there are MANY who went to bible school, (not meaning to offend, but it’s the truth), yet still don’t understand Jehovah God’s words). The knowledge of God’s words DON’T come from MANS ,schooling. Because it’s taught by others who may NOT have Jehovah God’s HS. The ministers in Jesus time, THOUGHT, they had true knowledge of God’s word. Yet Jesus read them well, (John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it). also Those who TRULY followed Jesus DIDN’T go to ANY school, yet they were qualified by God to teach. And they continued, even if they had to run from those who were having them arrested ,(Acts 8:4). What they learned, they learned from Jesus, who ONLY taught the truth.

many learning’s isn’t always in connection with Jesus and Jehovah Gods words. We have to ask Jehovah God for help in understanding his words , (James 1:5). I’ve listen many who went to bible school, and I’ve always found myself saying things like, no, that’s not what Jehovah or Jesus words meant. all ANYONE has to do is research, if they really want to know the truth. So instead of telling others to do it so to “persuade” you, Why don’t you… do the research yourself? Sorry but even a child can learn and speak God’s words, (Matt.[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'][/font]19:14), if Jehovah wants him to, and he does! Even though Paul was chosen by Jesus, and taught the truth, Timothy STILL wentand done research.

ANY of God’s words, which were taught in the original language. Is still taught today but in language of the different people today. Still that doesn’t mean Jehovah God and Jesus true words are contradictory. It’s humans who’s NOT truly following Jesus, (John 17:16 ,Luke 9:23) , who WON’T understand God’s words ,(Dan. 12:10). And for those who WANTS to serve God, they have to be willing to give up the false teachings and find the truth ,(Rom. 10:2). many have to understand satan is the cause of everything negative. Which includes confusion, which isn’t something Jehovah God wants, (1Cor. 14:33,40 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let all things be done decently and in order).

Jehovah God doesn’t contradict himself, nor does Jesus. It was satan who had men ,(unknowingly) , replaced, removed, and add to Jehovah and Jesus words. First as I said for confusions, secondly, to keep many from learning the truth. When Jehovah’s servants and Jesus true followers show them. Here two in which many feels contradictory, …John 10:30 I and my Father are one, (many I’ve heard say this meant they are one or the same being). verses John 15:23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also ,(he CLEARLY shows he has a Father). Jesus DIDN’T contradict himself, he knew him and his Father were/are on the same accord. Again, satan put confusing in man. And he keeps many who refuse to learn the truth in confusion , (2Cor. 4:4).

Many need to understand when God’s word says wicked, or many are blinded, it doesn’t JUST mean, those who do evil, or refuse to know God. MANY doesn’t want to know the God’s of Israel, (Pro. 1:28-32), which satan HAS blinded. Even if they claim to be Christians, which is why Jesus word says at (Matt. 7:22,23). Or this one which seems to contradict the cross thing ,(Matt. 10:38 , Mark 15:32 ,Luke 9:23). Men who followed Jesus saying he was "nail to a cross. Paul wrote these books ,(1Cor. 1:7 ,Gal. 5:11 and Philp.2:8), each one saying “cross.” YET he also wrote verses saying "tree" ,(Acts 5:30 ,Gal. 3:13, and Acts 13:29). Peter who wrote the books bearing his name , (1Pet. 2:24), also mentions "tree."
Question why did all these men who followed Jesus say "cross", if it really wasn’t? and why did Paul, who became a TRUE follower of Jesus say “cross” in Gal. 5:11 ,yet say “tree” in Gal. 3:13?, same book! Before these men were born, scriptures showed humans were nail on trees ,(Duet. 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree), Ah… Moses wrote the book of Deuteronomy! Again satan placed a part in having men add the "cross." Paul certainly wouldn’t have said "cross" if it wasn’t so, Neither would the Apostles. Satan KNEW this would cause confusion especially for those who didn’t want to be seen differently. Again maybe YOU… should do some research. Peace

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Hey, Jo Jo, Not that it matters, but are you a Jehovah's witness? You are one of the only people here who's threads I've read that "gets it", that the Scripture only speaks of God, but is not God, no matter what you call Him. Jesus today has almost nothing to do with Biblical history, which so many seem to be hung up on. He is alive now. People also wait for Jesus to "come one day", when in fact, He's already here. Peace, and much love

seeingeyes said:

Wow. This actually made sense to me. And it rings very true.

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It is really a matter of the heart; and God knows the heart from the very beginning when a person first comes into the Yeshua faith. From that day we are "predestined" toward and end, sealed with the Spirit, the earnest of the promise; toward that day of ultimate redemption-purchase-buy-back date which no man knows the day nor the hour. And we know that Yeshua is he that searches the reins, (inner most thoughts) and the hearts:

Revelation 2:17-28 KJV
17. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
18. And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
19. I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.
20. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24. But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: [seven mountains heathen]
27. And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; [Spirit Torah] as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28. And I will give him the morning star. [Yeshua gives himself]

This videos below provides an extensive research on the potentially errant teachings of Paul.

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Aside from believing that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on the face of the earth, contradicting the Bible, have you researched what other heresy the speaker in the videos believes?

timewerx said:

I think the most dangerous contradictions are between the teachings of Jesus and Paul.

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Please present three from your own observations that we might examine them in the light of the rest of Scripture.

In the faith,
Clare

Here are contradictions that stick out to me.
I'm sorry if I'm not to specific, don't cite the verse, language, or previous establishment.

These just come to mind, it's not really in a particular order.

1 John, "God is light"
Genesis, "god created light"
God cannot be created.
(linguistic confusion; one refers to spiritual, the other physical.)

Genesis,
"everything created is good"
"this and that is forbidden"

"don't kill"
(god kills a lot of people)

"kill Isaac!"
"don't kill Isaac!"

Paul, writes in Galatians 5 that jealousy is a sin.
Through out the bible it constantly refers to god as being jealous.

God in the OT said be fruitful and multiply.
Jesus and Paul, promoted the eunuchs and celibacy. / Song of songs in the same binding as the Gospel an Paul's epistles is a contradiction.

Solomon's temple in kings, is inconsistent in measurements and material with that in Chronicles.

Solomon, "don't be to good"
Paul, "put up the good fight"

Isaiah, "He (Jesus) will be called prince of peace".
Jesus, "don't think I brought peace, I brought a sword".

The genealogies of Matthew and Luke are contradicting.

In one of the gospels (I forget) it tells about how Jesus is traveling, but the story doesn't follow His path properly.

Paul, "fits of rage are a sin"
Jesus, has a fit of rage in the temple.

Jesus, "bless and do not curse"
Jesus curses the tree.

In John, Mary is the first to see resurrected Jesus.
Other gospels, it's Peter.

Jesus and Paul, permitted women to teach.
The author of Timothy says, women should not teach.


Paul says, "salvation through grace".
James says, "salvation through works".
Luke says, "salvation through gnosis" (Luke 1:77 & Acts 2:40).
John, seems to imply a mixture of all... Salvation through Christ.

The NT says,
God is perfectly good.
God doesn't show favoritism.
No one but Christ has seen God.
God is against materialism.

The OT says,
God is good and evil.
God favors certain individuals and groups.
Adam and Eve "walked with God", and Moses claimed to see God's backside.
God provides fortune.

Paul rebuked genealogies, yet they liter the bible.

Last contradiction for now,
in revelation...
Satan is sentenced to spend day and night imprisoned, but before that it reads that God gets rid of night.

Peace and grace,
Erik.

eachallberg said:

Here are contradictions that stick out to me.
I'm sorry if I'm not to specific, don't cite the verse, language, or previous establishment.

These just come to mind, it's not really in a particular order.

1 John, "God is light"
Genesis, "god created light"
God cannot be created.
(linguistic confusion; one refers to spiritual, the other physical.)

Genesis,
"everything created is good"
"this and that is forbidden"

"don't kill"
(god kills a lot of people)

"kill Isaac!"
"don't kill Isaac!"

Paul, writes in Galatians 5 that jealousy is a sin.
Through out the bible it constantly refers to god as being jealous.

God in the OT said be fruitful and multiply.
Jesus and Paul, promoted the eunuchs and celibacy. / Song of songs in the same binding as the Gospel an Paul's epistles is a contradiction.

Solomon's temple in kings, is inconsistent in measurements and material with that in Chronicles.

Solomon, "don't be to good"
Paul, "put up the good fight"

Isaiah, "He (Jesus) will be called prince of peace".
Jesus, "don't think I brought peace, I brought a sword".

The genealogies of Matthew and Luke are contradicting.

In one of the gospels (I forget) it tells about how Jesus is traveling, but the story doesn't follow His path properly.

Paul, "fits of rage are a sin"
Jesus, has a fit of rage in the temple.

Jesus, "bless and do not curse"
Jesus curses the tree.

In John, Mary is the first to see resurrected Jesus.
Other gospels, it's Peter.

Jesus and Paul, permitted women to teach.
The author of Timothy says, women should not teach.


Paul says, "salvation through grace".
James says, "salvation through works".
Luke says, "salvation through gnosis" (Luke 1:77 & Acts 2:40).
John, seems to imply a mixture of all... Salvation through Christ.

The NT says,
God is perfectly good.
God doesn't show favoritism.
No one but Christ has seen God.
God is against materialism.

The OT says,
God is good and evil.
God favors certain individuals and groups.
Adam and Eve "walked with God", and Moses claimed to see God's backside.
God provides fortune.

Paul rebuked genealogies, yet they liter the bible.

Last contradiction for now,
in revelation...
Satan is sentenced to spend day and night imprisoned, but before that it reads that God gets rid of night.

Peace and grace,
Erik.

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What's amazing to me, is that after studying the non Canonical scriptures the truth jumps out at you. WOW.

eachallberg said:

Here are contradictions that stick out to me.
I'm sorry if I'm not to specific, don't cite the verse, language, or previous establishment.

These just come to mind, it's not really in a particular order.

1 John, "God is light"
Genesis, "god created light"
God cannot be created.
(linguistic confusion; one refers to spiritual, the other physical.)

Genesis,
"everything created is good"
"this and that is forbidden"

"don't kill"
(god kills a lot of people)

"kill Isaac!"
"don't kill Isaac!"

Paul, writes in Galatians 5 that jealousy is a sin.
Through out the bible it constantly refers to god as being jealous.

God in the OT said be fruitful and multiply.
Jesus and Paul, promoted the eunuchs and celibacy. / Song of songs in the same binding as the Gospel an Paul's epistles is a contradiction.

Solomon's temple in kings, is inconsistent in measurements and material with that in Chronicles.

Solomon, "don't be to good"
Paul, "put up the good fight"

Isaiah, "He (Jesus) will be called prince of peace".
Jesus, "don't think I brought peace, I brought a sword".

The genealogies of Matthew and Luke are contradicting.

In one of the gospels (I forget) it tells about how Jesus is traveling, but the story doesn't follow His path properly.

Paul, "fits of rage are a sin"
Jesus, has a fit of rage in the temple.

Jesus, "bless and do not curse"
Jesus curses the tree.

In John, Mary is the first to see resurrected Jesus.
Other gospels, it's Peter.

Jesus and Paul, permitted women to teach.
The author of Timothy says, women should not teach.


Paul says, "salvation through grace".
James says, "salvation through works".
Luke says, "salvation through gnosis" (Luke 1:77 & Acts 2:40).
John, seems to imply a mixture of all... Salvation through Christ.

The NT says,
God is perfectly good.
God doesn't show favoritism.
No one but Christ has seen God.
God is against materialism.

The OT says,
God is good and evil.
God favors certain individuals and groups.
Adam and Eve "walked with God", and Moses claimed to see God's backside.
God provides fortune.

Paul rebuked genealogies, yet they liter the bible.

Last contradiction for now,
in revelation...
Satan is sentenced to spend day and night imprisoned, but before that it reads that God gets rid of night.

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That is a good list of contradictory doctrines.

First letter of John:1:8-10
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceieve ourselves, and the truth is not in us."8
"If we confess our sins, he who is faithful and just will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."9
"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."10
......
1 John 3:
"No one who abides in him sins; no one who sins has either seen him or known him."6
"Those who have neen born of God do not sin, because God's seed abides in them; they cannot sin, because they have been born of God."9

I think it might be the way I read it that seems to contradict?
however I still know and believe that I sin and need forgiveness

I have heard that from a scientific point of view, the story of Noah is impossible. There is not enough water on/in the earth to have covered Mt. Everest. My guess is this could have been a more localized flood that affected the "known" world.


Or how about this one:


Genesis 7: 8-9

8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,

9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

(A male and a female of the clean beasts.)


Genesis 8: 20

20 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

(If he sacrificed one of every clean beast there would be no way for the animals to propogate anymore.)



Or how about this one:

John 3: 13

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

(Only Jesus has ascended to heaven.)


II Kings 2: 11

11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

(Elijah is taken by a whirlwind into heaven.)


Hebrews 11: 8

5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

(Enoch is translated - taken to heaven.)


A group of Hebrew scholars have been working on a project that compares the original Hebrew Bible with the Dead Sea Scrolls, Greek papyrus translations, a printed Bible from 1525, and parchment books in hand written Hebrew.

You can see a small amount of information about it here: Hebrew University Bible Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


However, that led me to several sites where I was able to follow up with the Hebrew Bible Project. From it I learned the following:

1) The original is the text as the writing first became a book. The Archetype is earliest text of the book that is available. They are not the same thing and the Bible comes from Archetype documents.

2) Editions exist for these books in which revisions (changes) are made. So there have been alterations made to the texts.

3) The main versions of the books that are compared are M - Masoretic, G - Old Greek, Q - Aumran, and SP - Samaritan Pentateuch. Significant differences appear between these versions.


A huge amount of study has gone into reconciling each of these versions to determine the Original. Among the findings is that the Masoretic text of Jeremiah is one-seventh longer than the Dead Sea Scroll version written a thousand years earlier. So it doesn't appear to be a matter of if the Bible has changed, but how much.

Hope something here is what the OP was looking for.

Ran77 said:

That is a good list of contradictory doctrines.

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Thanks. I didn't put that much time into it. I only feel like I scratched the surface.

Phantasman said:

What's amazing to me, is that after studying the non Canonical scriptures the truth jumps out at you. WOW.

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I agree. The Nag Hammadi library helped comfort me that I saw the devil (Yaldaboath) lurking in between the lines of the bible. Mainstream would say, "meh, well maybe that's god for ya".

No wonder! Why so many people are in raged because they're getting mixed messages without an explanation from the bible. Add the nag to the bible and...

Peace.
Seriously.

Ran77 said:

I have heard that from a scientific point of view, the story of Noah is impossible. There is not enough water on/in the earth to have covered Mt. Everest. My guess is this could have been a more localized flood that affected the "known" world.

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Not so much of contradiction, but it made me think of...

Galatians 2:18
For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

Genesis 6:7
And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Paul says to rebuild what is destroyed is transgressing. In genesis, god destroys with a flood and then rebuilds...

Or how about this one:

Genesis 7: 8-9

8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,

9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

(A male and a female of the clean beasts.)

Genesis 8: 20

20 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

(If he sacrificed one of every clean beast there would be no way for the animals to propogate anymore.)

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Right.

At the end of genesis 8 it says that, god says; no longer will I curse the ground (untrue because we still need to work it for food), and day and night shall not cease (author of revelation says, god gets rid of night).

Or how about this one:

John 3: 13

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

(Only Jesus has ascended to heaven.)

II Kings 2: 11

11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

(Elijah is taken by a whirlwind into heaven.)

Hebrews 11: 8

5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

(Enoch is translated - taken to heaven.)

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Yeah, it can be contradicting, but not so much. Jesus ascended (on His own), as it's written that Enoch and Elijah were pulled up into heaven.

In the book of Enoch, Enoch sees god and describes his face as terrible.
1 John says no one has seen god.

eckhart said:

First letter of John:1:8-10
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceieve ourselves, and the truth is not in us."8
"If we confess our sins, he who is faithful and just will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."9
"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."10
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1 John 3:
"No one who abides in him sins; no one who sins has either seen him or known him."6
"Those who have neen born of God do not sin, because God's seed abides in them; they cannot sin, because they have been born of God."9

I think it might be the way I read it that seems to contradict?
however I still know and believe that I sin and need forgiveness

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Yes, 1 John 3:9 contradicts 1:10 %100.
Good catch.