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Needing_Grace
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WarriorAngel said:
Oh noez! Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich.
This is news?
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Maybe the message is lost in translation - because it is not about the tax - its about losing sovereignty to the UN who will be free to tax us.
Lookie - we tax - we keep it for our own problems. We dont have some other non American entity come and TAKE it from us to spend as they choose. There is a huge problem we should have with it, if we understand it.
Lookie - we tax - we keep it for our own problems. We dont have some other non American entity come and TAKE it from us to spend as they choose. There is a huge problem we should have with it, if we understand it.
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So the latest Republican talking points are sovereignty.
*Yawn*
I've personally heard that our sovereignty is in peril since 1989 and I'm sure it's been the same thing ever since the country was founded.
Frankly, having seen the 'pale blue dot' that is our Earth, I kinda look at things from a much broader perspective.
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You've known about it for so long and you *still* don't care? Gosh I'd think that all U.S. citizens (whether they be Dems, Repubs, Indys, Conservatives or what-have-you) would at least care. You know, people *died* for us to live free in this country.
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Chany
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I thought Needing_Grace's comment was more to say, "this argument has been used over and over again, yet here we are, still the same."
You know, people are dying at your expense and convenience. I respect the armed forces, both past and present, but the whole "they died for you" thing isn't really effective, considering the majority of wars have nothing to do with self-defense.
You know, people are dying at your expense and convenience. I respect the armed forces, both past and present, but the whole "they died for you" thing isn't really effective, considering the majority of wars have nothing to do with self-defense.
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Precisely. Boy who cried wolf and all that.
Oh, how they love the troops when they're all spit and polish and clean, marching off to war. Oh, how they despise the troops when they come home hurting, needing jobs and/or health care.
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A global tax on Billionaires? I love it.
This is the best reason yet to give Obama 4 more years. His first term was a complete washout. But there is, at last, a glimmer of hope...
This is the best reason yet to give Obama 4 more years. His first term was a complete washout. But there is, at last, a glimmer of hope...
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Cosmic Charlie
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We lost our sovereignty to tax when we joined the WTO.
Foreign countries under the WTO have standing to sue in our courts over trade policy and tariffs.
If you're REALLY worried about nation sovereignty you'd work against the globalization of the economy and stop worrying about the UN.
But, of course, that would interfere with the "job creators" ability to exploit, I mean, enslave, opps, I mean give us jobs at their largess.
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Don't you know? The world is controlled by 147 large corporations who control a great deal of the money and want to call the shots.
That's why they're so anxious to have one of their own, someone who, like them, always puts profits before people, in power.
If you think financiers can run the world better than people of diverse backgrounds, look at what the profits-before-people philosophy has done to the U.S. in the past 30 years.
Revealed â the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist
That's why they're so anxious to have one of their own, someone who, like them, always puts profits before people, in power.
If you think financiers can run the world better than people of diverse backgrounds, look at what the profits-before-people philosophy has done to the U.S. in the past 30 years.
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S.ilvio said:They become part of Romney's unclean 47%...
Pretty much.
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They become part of Romney's unclean 47%...
You know that thats a government statistic. 47% of the people do not pay federal taxes. Only 53% of the people pay federal income tax. Governor Romney was only telling his investors that he'll be trying to get the indepedents in the middle. It's the same thing Obama is doing. He doesn't have to worry about his base. He too has to go after the people who want jobs.
And Chany, I come from a proud military family and my husband fought for your freedom as well. Sorry if you don't like it. Freedom isn't free.
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The Vietnam War was not a war for American freedom. Your husband, if he went out of his way to defend his brothers-in-arms or innocent civilians, has much to be proud of, but let's be honest. No potential outcome of the Vietnam war would have had any effect on American freedom.
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Revolutionary War was defense and a fight for freedom.
You folks laugh at freedom...til you will lose it.
You folks laugh at freedom...til you will lose it.
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The Indian wars were also a fight for freedom and defense. However, those fighting to defend their homeland and preserve their way of life lost that one.
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)Who will Obama blame for the bad economy after the next four years? Oh, yeah. It won't matter to him.
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Dirty little secret FF:
The economy is going to improve over the next four years no matter who's in office.
The business cycle is what it is.
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