Anointing-doorposts???

Butterfly · Dec 10, 2007

Without going into much detail (for lack of time) I will give you the long story short. When I met my DH he told me he was into some weird stuff but that it was good, solid Biblical stuff and I should search it out for myself. He gave me material from a woman named Rebecca Brown, M.D. which I tore through and decided that some of it was scriptural and most of it is not. He is not of the same idea, so we differ in that area.

Rebecca Brown's teachings are about spiritual warfare. Serious spiritual warfare...against demons, evil spirits, other people, the church, whatever comes up against you in this life. She has my DH convinced that he should not ever HAVE to be sick, that his brother doesn't have to be Autistic and he could be healed if he got rid of the demons, and...that he needs to anoint the doorposts of his room every night before going to sleep so as to ward off any evil spirits, demons, w/e that might "come in and attack" during the night. If he has a rough night of sleep, he blames it on not anointing well enough or something. It drives me nuts because his reason for doing it is because of the blood on the doorposts back in Exodus...I don't see any oil being used to seal off rooms, properties, etc. I am cool with anointing people with oil, obviously having the elders do it, and praying over things and people to heal, because it's in the Bible. I just don't see sealing off rooms or anything else for that matter in the Bible.

Can anyone enlighten me or help me out here? My mission is not to prove DH wrong and be against him, my mission is to find out what is right. Thanks.

BenAdam · Dec 10, 2007

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Brown

Most hold her to be a charlatan.

JimB · Dec 10, 2007

GWB404 said:
Without going into much detail (for lack of time) I will give you the long story short. When I met my DH he told me he was into some weird stuff but that it was good, solid Biblical stuff and I should search it out for myself. He gave me material from a woman named Rebecca Brown, M.D. which I tore through and decided that some of it was scriptural and most of it is not. He is not of the same idea, so we differ in that area.

Rebecca Brown's teachings are about spiritual warfare. Serious spiritual warfare...against demons, evil spirits, other people, the church, whatever comes up against you in this life. She has my DH convinced that he should not ever HAVE to be sick, that his brother doesn't have to be Autistic and he could be healed if he got rid of the demons, and...that he needs to anoint the doorposts of his room every night before going to sleep so as to ward off any evil spirits, demons, w/e that might "come in and attack" during the night. If he has a rough night of sleep, he blames it on not anointing well enough or something. It drives me nuts because his reason for doing it is because of the blood on the doorposts back in Exodus...I don't see any oil being used to seal off rooms, properties, etc. I am cool with anointing people with oil, obviously having the elders do it, and praying over things and people to heal, because it's in the Bible. I just don't see sealing off rooms or anything else for that matter in the Bible.

Can anyone enlighten me or help me out here? My mission is not to prove DH wrong and be against him, my mission is to find out what is right. Thanks.

I havent read Ms. Browns book but if what you say is true, then

Eek!

~Jim

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BenAdam · Dec 10, 2007

Jimbeaux said:
I havent read Ms. Browns book but if what you say is true, then Eek!

~Jim

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Dont worry; I can get the toast out.

You didn't sell her best sellers in your bookstore Jim? I thought every christian bookseller worth their salt sold them.

ChristianMuse · Dec 10, 2007

There have been a few times in the past when some demon taking advantage of a wrong thought life decided to enter into my home and cause a little trouble. When I become aware of it I think of what door was opened so that the demon could manifest. Through repentance and prayer I cut off the demon's "right" to manifest through the blood of Jesus. Occasionally there is a demon that is a bit tenacious and won't let go. As a matter of a faith act I would also, with repentance and prayer, and oredering the spirit to leave, anoint the door posts of the room or house. This final step is a faith step in God providing a hedge about the area.

Is this fully scriptural? I have no idea... I know that it is how God lead me to act in these few circumstances.

JimB · Dec 10, 2007

BenAdam said:
You didn't sell her best sellers in your bookstore Jim? I thought every christian bookseller worth their salt sold them.

There are some books I refused to stock for consciences sake. Hank Hanegraaf’s and John MacArthur’s books slamming P/Cs were two of them on one side of the spectrum and on the other were Rebecca Brown’s “He Came to Set the Captives Free,” “Pigs in the Parlor” and all those alleged visions of heaven and hell. They may have been best sellers and might have put some cash in the till but it was not worth my integrity.

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spiritfilledjm · Dec 10, 2007

Never heard of her shockingly enough. By the way, what on earth is DH?

Jesusong · Dec 10, 2007

Here is some more info on Rebecca Brown M.D.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/brown.html

Butterfly · Dec 10, 2007

Well I take her to be false...some of what she teaches is "right" but most of it she takes from the old testament and completely leaves out the NT AND the blood of Jesus and the New Covenant. We are NOT under the old covenant any more, and a lot of what she teaches and my DH believes makes me feel like we are shaming Jesus' blood, as if it wasn't enough. It's horrible.

DH stands for Dear Husband, I think.

Anyway, it is frightening, and he doesn't believe ANY of the things said against her, he listens to her, and his mom is even DEEPER into it than he is, by far, and says things like there's an evil spirit of resistance causing the men in this house to not want to do housecleaning. Yeah right woman go jump in a lake. I love my inlaws (my father-in-law is Atheist, and I can see why!!!) and I really love my hubby, but I don't see where some of this stuff is scriptural. Someone who takes verses like that and screws it up so badly that you can't even tell what she began with is someone who is not teaching under the influence and power of the Holy Spirit.

I just moved into the Pentecostal denomination and I love it, and I love discovering God more and more and just having power through the Spirit that I never had before...but I don't love the fact that my hubby's family has taken it to the next level.

icedtea · Dec 10, 2007

Theres nothing wrong at all about annointing houses, but there are no demons of housecleaning, thats going too far.

irenemcg · Dec 10, 2007

I have not read this book or any of her books but I have used anointing oil over our home and my daughter's and prayed for the Lord's protection, but I have never heard of this being done daily. The lord's protection is over him can't He rest in the knowledge of that? My own feeling is your DH is bound by a spirit of fear, he needs to learn who he is in Christ and that angels are there to protect him,. he needs to rest at night knowing a hedge of protection ids placed around him by His father who loves him and he can be confident as he rests in the arms of Jesus when he goes to sleep at night.The fullness of the Godhead indwells him does he know that?

vanilla8 · Dec 10, 2007

It sounds like your husband and his mother have started to rely on rituals to defend them from evil spirits rather that trusting God.
It won't ever work, but that's where that kind of teaching leads to. Its really sad because there is no rest and no peace.
I don't reckon they'll believe you if you start trying to tell them they're wrong, because they will probably say something along the lines of 'You're not called into this sort of ministry' or something similar.
The only thing I can suggest, is to pray that God will bring them out the other side of this dark place and show Jesus is their strong deliverer, not what you annoint or whether your prayers 'covered' everything.
:prayer:

JimB · Dec 10, 2007

vanilla8 said:
It sounds like your husband and his mother have started to rely on rituals to defend them from evil spirits rather that trusting God.
It won't ever work, but that's where that kind of teaching leads to. Its really sad because there is no rest and no peace.
I don't reckon they'll believe you if you start trying to tell them they're wrong, because they will probably say something along the lines of 'You're not called into this sort of ministry' or something similar.
The only thing I can suggest, is to pray that God will bring them out the other side of this dark place and show Jesus is their strong deliverer, not what you annoint or whether your prayers 'covered' everything.

I agree. The devil must laugh at our symbolic gestures like anointing things with Wesson oil (or maybe Quaker State) to ward of evil spirits, or marching around a building, or even shouting "power" (ie., magic) words to expel demons. Whats the difference in that and in pagans using a talisman or charm to do the same thing?

Our power is not in symbolic amulets or incantations. Our power is Christ in us.

~Jim

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Dont worry; I can get the toast out.

HephzibahBenJudah · Dec 10, 2007

IN the OT they did it as symbolism of the result of what Jesus did in the NT.
I say do both the OT and the NT...knowing that we who are IN Christ Jesus and His words abide in us, have nothing to fear...praying for the body of Christ that they may KNOW the love of God which leads mankind to repentance and that our love might be perfected; because perfect love casts out all fear.

WarEagle · Dec 10, 2007

ChristianMuse said:
There have been a few times in the past when some demon taking advantage of a wrong thought life decided to enter into my home and cause a little trouble.

Demons don't know our thoughts.

Through repentance and prayer I cut off the demon's "right" to manifest through the blood of Jesus.

Oh, you mean like it's taught in...um, what was that verse again?

As a matter of a faith act I would also, with repentance and prayer, and oredering the spirit to leave, anoint the door posts of the room or house. This final step is a faith step in God providing a hedge about the area.

And what verse is your faith in these things based on?

Is this fully scriptural? I have no idea... I know that it is how God lead me to act in these few circumstances.

Are you saying that God will lead people to do things that aren't Biblical?

WarEagle · Dec 10, 2007

HephzibahBenJudah said:
IN the OT they did it as symbolism of the result of what Jesus did in the NT.

And that's precisely my problem with it.

Why hold to the foreshadowing symbol of Christ, when Christ has come in the flesh?

WarEagle · Dec 10, 2007

vanilla8 said:
It sounds like your husband and his mother have started to rely on rituals to defend them from evil spirits rather that trusting God.
It won't ever work, but that's where that kind of teaching leads to. Its really sad because there is no rest and no peace.
I don't reckon they'll believe you if you start trying to tell them they're wrong, because they will probably say something along the lines of 'You're not called into this sort of ministry' or something similar.
The only thing I can suggest, is to pray that God will bring them out the other side of this dark place and show Jesus is their strong deliverer, not what you annoint or whether your prayers 'covered' everything.

When I was in the WoF movement, I remember that we used to rub olive oil on the doors and would "rebuke" and "bind" Satan and different ideas or sicknesses and other superstitions like that.

We'd always get so mad at anybody who had the guts to point out that none of it is Biblical. We just didn't think they were on as high a spiritual plane as we were.

I don't believe that's what the OP is doing, but it's a very common attitude.

lismore · Dec 10, 2007

Jimbeaux said:
“Pigs in the Parlor” and all those alleged visions of heaven and hell.

Ever noticed how all those visions contradict one another and sometimes contradict the bible?

Edited to add: I would advise people to check out 'deliverance' books like 'Pigs in the Parlour' before getting into it. Check it out with the bible, is what it teaches biblical?

Acts 17:11
Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

lismore · Dec 10, 2007

WarEagle said:
When I was in the WoF movement, I remember that we used to rub olive oil on the doors and would "rebuke" and "bind" Satan and different ideas or sicknesses and other superstitions like that.
.

Hello There :wave:

Is the idea that the demons cant stand the smell of olive oil?

I often wondered, having been through 100s of sermons on all sorts of nonsense {in the church I just left}, delivering yourself from demons, Positive mental attitude etc if all this is not taking the focus away from Jesus and the gospel?

We were called to share the good news about Jesus, not the good news about demons.

WarEagle · Dec 10, 2007

lismore said:
Hello There

Is the idea that the demons cant stand the smell of olive oil?

Demons don't like olive oil. Vampires don't like garlic. I guess that's why you never hear about Italian restaurants being haunted.

We were called to share the good news about Jesus, not the good news about demons.

I agree.

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