Hillary Front Group Media Matters Issues "Dont's" for Blitzer

JoyJuice · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
My post was valid and accurate. Note that while Drudge has been slammed here, nobody has been able to demonstrate that Blitzer didn't cave in to the guidelines. That makes him not much better than a shill in my view.

Nobody can demonstrate there's not a BBQ joint on the new planet they just discovered either.

The burden of proof is on the individual making a claim that something did exist or occur.

KomissarSteve · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
My post was valid and accurate. Note that while Drudge has been slammed here, nobody has been able to demonstrate that Blitzer didn't cave in to the guidelines.

Burden of proof lies on you for that one, buddy. :wave:

JustOneWay · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
My post was valid and accurate. Note that while Drudge has been slammed here, nobody has been able to demonstrate that Blitzer didn't cave in to the guidelines. That makes him not much better than a shill in my view.

The facts are clear. You stated that "Wolf turns Lamb" was evidence that the debate was staged or influenced by Media Matters. No evidence has been presented by you, to back your statement.

By your post, it is apparent that you are attempting to shift the burden of proof to others. Quite disingenuous.

MachZer0 · Nov 16, 2007

JoyJuice said:
Nobody can demonstrate there's not a BBQ joint on the new planet they just discovered either.

The burden of proof is on the individual making a claim that something did exist or occur.

KomissarSteve said:
Burden of proof lies on you for that one, buddy.

JustOneWay said:
The facts are clear. You stated that "Wolf turns Lamb" was evidence that the debate was staged or influenced by Media Matters. No evidence has been presented by you, to back your statement.

By your post, it is apparent that you are attempting to shift the burden of proof to others. Quite disingenuous.

Not one attempt to demonstrate anything Blitzer did other than roll over. Interesting

MachZer0 · Nov 16, 2007

Well, it looks like the day is finally over, thanks to Drudge

CNN Caves to Hillary, But Shell Still Struggle in Iowa

JoyJuice · Nov 16, 2007

Wash....rinse....repeat.

kermit · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
My post was valid and accurate. Note that while Drudge has been slammed here, nobody has been able to demonstrate that Blitzer didn't cave in to the guidelines. That makes him not much better than a shill in my view.

I can't prove that Blitzer isn't taking orders from a society of elves that lives in his backyard either, but that doesn't mean that it he does.

Also, I find it funny that your so called evidence is an opinion piece by Dick Morris that offers no more evidence than you've offered. Basically, it was just whole lot of assertions with nothing to back them up.

Morris is hardly a trustworthy source on anything, much less Hillary. When he was employed by the Clintons he was generally referred to as a professional liar. While he technically resigned, it is also generally understood that he either resigned or would be fired. Since then he has had a personal vendetta against the Clintons and his skills as a professional liar serve him well in that regard.

kermit · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
Not one attempt to demonstrate anything Blitzer did other than roll over. Interesting

Like I said, he was a moderator. It isn't the job of a debate moderator to grill the candidates on the issues.

MachZer0 · Nov 16, 2007

kermit said:
Like I said, he was a moderator. It isn't the job of a debate moderator to grill the candidates on the issues.

Especially after he's been warned

JustOneWay · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
Well, it looks like the day is finally over, thanks to Drudge

CNN Caves to Hillary, But Shell Still Struggle in Iowa

lol

The Drudge Report today highlights that a senior adviser to the Hillary campaign said, earlier today, that Blitzer was outstanding, and did not gang up like Russert did in Philadelphia. He avoided personal attacks, remained professional and ran the best debate so far. And Blitzer checked his journalistic instincts at the door.

Morris uses Drudge as his source, the same source as all the other links I provided. Still looking for that link machzero. By the way, the days over.

JustOneWay · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
Especially after he's been warned

Who warned Blitzer?

kermit · Nov 16, 2007

MachZer0 said:
Especially after he's been warned

And still you have failed to establish that this "warning" had any influence on his behavior. You have also failed to establish that his behavior was anything other than the proper and accepted role of a debate moderator. All you have offered is speculation.

Your argument is all show and no substance.

kermit · Nov 16, 2007

Here's the list on Media Matters. I don't see any evidence that these suggestions were given as a warning to CNN. Nor is there any evidence that anyone at CNN even read this list prior to the debate. The whole issue is speculation wrapped in innuendo.

JustOneWay · Nov 16, 2007

kermit said:
Here's the list on Media Matters. I don't see any evidence that these suggestions were given as a warning to CNN. Nor is there any evidence that anyone at CNN even read this list prior to the debate. The whole issue is speculation wrapped in innuendo.

Media Matters for America offers the following suggested "don'ts" for Blitzer, Roberts, Brown, and Malveaux:

Suggested =/= warned

KomissarSteve · Nov 17, 2007

MachZer0 said:
Not one attempt to demonstrate anything Blitzer did other than roll over. Interesting

Not one attempt to prove that there was anything that would have made Blitzer roll over...interesting.

Loukuss · Nov 17, 2007

Its laughable some of the things the neocons here come up with. ^_^

MachZer0 · Nov 17, 2007

JustOneWay said:
lol

Morris uses Drudge as his source, the same source as all the other links I provided. Still looking for that link machzero.

Plus he offered additional information as to why it appears that Blitzer caved.

Also, no attempt has been made to rebut the article I linked so I agree with you when you say

By the way, the days over.

MachZer0 · Nov 17, 2007

kermit said:
And still you have failed to establish that this "warning" had any influence on his behavior. You have also failed to establish that his behavior was anything other than the proper and accepted role of a debate moderator. All you have offered is speculation.

Your argument is all show and no substance.

I offered the substance and no rebuttal has been attempted. That speaks volumes in and of itself

KomissarSteve · Nov 17, 2007

MachZer0 said:
I offered the substance and no rebuttal has been attempted. That speaks volumes in and of itself

You offered no substance, because you haven't provided evidence that Media Matters or really anyone had any power to make Blitzer "roll over."

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