Israel: Sign of the Times

MichaelFJF said:

Some "subjects" aren't worth argument.

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Then why dignify the thread by your comment in it?

jgarden said:

One should not confuse "coincidence" with "causation."

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"Coincidence. That's an explanation used by fools and liars."


“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”

Maranatha27 said:

Zech 2:7 : Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon.
[8] For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

Zech 8:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

I know the type, You dont understand your Bible when it comes to Gods love for the Jewish people. You dont understand prophecy, rather you look towards the occult, sad very sad...you dont understand...<consistency edit>

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So don't be so quick to judge. Allow me to share a few more verses with you.

Revelation 2:8-9 (King James Version)
2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:7-9
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

1 Thessalonians 2:14-15
14: For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

Matthew 23:47-39
37: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38: Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39: For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Romans 2:28-29
28: For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

There are many more such passages.

The Bible never demands that Christians blindly support Jews no matter what they do. Do you know how many times God warned, judged, and even cursed the Jews for their rebellion? Blind support for a people based on their genetics is stupidity, and is only believed by so many so-called Christians because they have been brainwashed and deceived. Actually, if you did the research, you'd find that many modern-day Jews are not even physical descendants of Israel. Please look up the Khazars and the Ashkenazi.

MichaelFJF said:

I ridicule the highly ridiculable. Did I just make up a word?

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I think you ridicule anything that disagrees with your chosen paradigm.

Giant Israeli Flag Breaks World Record

By REGAN E. DOHERTY
The Associated Press
Monday, November 26, 2007; 6:17 AM

MASADA, Israel -- The record for the world's largest flag now belongs to an Israeli banner produced by a Filipino evangelical Christian.

The huge blue and white flag, measuring 2,165 feet long and 330 feet wide and weighing 5.7 tons, breaks the record for the world's largest, according to the Israeli Ministry of Tourism.

The flag was unfurled Sunday beneath the ancient Jewish desert fortress of Masada. Representatives of the Guinness Book of Records measured the flag and later confirmed the record.

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Still don't believe the hexagram is a magical symbol?


More evidence on the Thelemapedia - Encyclopedia of Thelema and Magick website. For those who aren't aware, Thelema is a system of magick developed by Aleister Crowley, most prominent occultist of the 20th century, a man who declared himself to be 'the Beast'.

Hexagram

Hexagram
While the pentagram represents the microcosm, the hexagram can be said to represent the macrocosm. Its six points are accorded to the planetary bodies of Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sol, Venus, Mercury, and Luna. These in turn are related to six Sephiroth of the Tree of Life, as can be seen when aligning the Hexagram with the Central Pillar. If the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram is elemental magick, then the Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram involves planetary magick.

Unicursal Hexagram
Though it's often regarded as macrocosmic, closer inspection reveals that the hexagram is the union of elemental glyphs for Fire and Water and, as such, is also a symbol of the Great Work - the union of opposites. The symbol can be further analyzed to reveal the glyphs of Earth and Air as well, indicating that it's not simply macrocosmic, but includes the microcosm as well. From this it can be seen that the Hexagram is similar to the Rosy Cross.

Aleister Crowley searched for a means to create a hexagram composed of one single, continuous line, as opposed to the dual triangles in the traditional form. His efforts led to the unicursal hexagram, which further codifies the symbolism contained within the hexagram, the rosy cross, and the ankh.

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Thelema

A brief summary of Thelema
Thelema is the name of the philosophical school and religious matrix established in 1904 with the writing of Liber AL vel Legis (The Book of the Law) by Aleister Crowley (1875-1947). The Law is summed up in two phrases from the Book:

* “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law” (AL I:40) and
* “Love is the law, love under will” (AL I:57).

The central goal of a Thelemite (as adherents refer to themselves) is to discover and perform his or her True Will, which is generally defined as the innermost Nature or proper life course of the individual. The techniques used to achieve this goal fall under the heading of Magick.

There are also strong political, ethical, aesthetic, and cultural aspects to Thelema. Although there is no strict literal doctrine concerning these matters, Aleister Crowley wrote many articles and essays regarding his ideas about the proper behavior of individual Thelemites and for an ideal Thelemic society. These ideas have continued to develop into modern times. However, the primary themes involve personal freedom, a recognition that men and women have an inherent divine nature, and that Love is the basis of the Great Work.

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Golden Dawn was one of the occult groups to which Aleister Crowley belonged.

Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn
The original Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was a magical fraternity founded in London in 1888 by Dr. William Wynn Westcott and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers, which ceased to exist under that name in 1903 but which continued under at least two spin-off organizations, the Stella Matutina and the Alpha et Omega, as well as a renamed faction headed by Arthur Edward Waite that underwent further splits. According to Liber LXI, the A.'.A.'. system of Aleister Crowley and George Cecil Jones was also a reformed perpetuation of the Golden Dawn order...

...The "Golden Dawn," as it is commonly referred to, was probably the single greatest influence on twentieth-century western occultism. While it existed, it was the focal point of the (re-)development of magical thinking in Europe. In it, most concepts of magick and ritual that have since become core elements of Thelema, Wicca, western mystery schools and other forms of magical spirituality were synthesized. Even the supposedly de novo Chaos magick pursued by the magical order of the Illuminates of Thanateros is arguably indebted to Golden Dawn magic, and the latter remains the spiritual core of nearly all of the more ceremonial branches of western magic.

In its heyday, many cultural celebrities belonged to the Golden Dawn. Some well known members include:

* Algernon Blackwood
* Aleister Crowley
* Florence Farr
* Maude Gonne
* Arthur Machen
* Pamela Colman Smith
* A.E. Waite
* William Butler Yeats
* Charles Williams
* Allan Bennett
* Gerard Encausse

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There is also the O.T.O. started by Crowley.

Ordo Templi Orientis
Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) can be translated as Order of Oriental Templars, or Order of the Temple of the East. It is a secret, fraternal organization similar to that of Freemasonry, with a series of graded initations. For its teachings and principles of organization, it has accepted the Law of Thelema, which is expressed as “Do what thou wilt.” Thelemites believe that this Law was established with the writing of the Book of the Law by Aleister Crowley in 1904 in Cairo, Egypt.

Philosophy & Goals
According to Crowley, O.T.O. is "the first of the great religious Societies to accept the Law." The rituals of O.T.O. have been entirely revised by Crowley and his successors in light of the Law of Thelema. Both within its private ceremonies and in the world at large, the Order seeks to promote the Law as the ultimate standard of human conduct and understanding.

O.T.O. was also designated as the Crowley estate, and maintains possession of Crowley's intellectual property and literary remains. As the custodian of these materials, the Order seeks to make them available to the public in definitive editions.

Even before accepting the Law, the Sovereign Sanctuary of the O.T.O. was a body that maintained a Supreme Secret, which is said to be of inestimable magical power. This secret still reposes in the Sovereign Sanctuary of the Ninth Degree, and its nature is indicated gradually by hints in the initiatory ceremonies of the Order.

In common with Freemasonry, the Theosophical Society, and many other esoteric bodies, O.T.O. espouses an ethic of Universal Brotherhood.

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Theosophical Society
The Theosophical Society was the original organization formed to advance the religious doctrine known as Theosophy.

History

Formation
The original Theosophical Society was founded in New York City in 1875 by Henry Steel Olcott, H.P. Blavatsky, William Quan Judge and others. Its initial objective was the study and explanation of mediumistic phenomena. After Olcott and Blavatsky moved to India, they became also interested in studying Eastern religions, and this was included into the Society's agenda. By 1889 when Blavatsky wrote Key to Theosophy, the Society's objects had evolved into:

1. To form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity without distinction of race, colour, or creed.
2. To promote the study of Aryan and other Scriptures, of the World's religion and sciences, and to vindicate the importance of old Asiatic literature, namely, of the Brahmanical, Buddhist, and Zoroastrian philosophies.
3. To investigate the hidden mysteries of Nature under every aspect possible, and the psychic and spiritual powers latent in man especially. (p. 39, Key to Theosophy)

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Interesting article which connects much of the this little known occult history:
Illuminati Dreams of Building Solomon's Temple

The Golden Dawn coven has also been associated with the House of Rothschild.

THE BEASTS OF GOLDEN DAWN

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The Rothschild family (often referred to simply as the Rothschilds), is an international banking and finance dynasty of German Jewish origin that established operations across Europe, and was ennobled by the Austrian and British governments. The Rothschild family is one of the wealthiest family dynasties in the world. While their current worth is inestimable, by the middle of the 19th century it was estimated at over $6 billion, twice the GDP of United States of America.
from Wikipedia

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"The Rothschilds lead the Illuminati and in every country they have a family ...being the head of the Illuminati. In the United States, we have the Rockefellers. David Rockefeller is both the head of the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral [Commission] which is the name of the Illuminati within the United States."...

..."The Golden Dawn is the organization of witchcraft, the 4th block up there, and it's the Rothschild's private coven. They choose every member personally."

Illuminati Defector: 'Rothschilds: Rule With Druid Witches'

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But I guess I'm just crazy because I don't believe everything I'm told, and I actually did some research.

Ra-Hoor-Khuit Network's Magickal Library - Scroll 2/3 of the way down the page.

LIBER V VEL REGULI

A: A: publication in Class D. Being the Ritual of the Mark of the Beast: an incantation proper to invoke the Energies of the Aeon of Horus, adapted for the daily use of the Magician of whatever grade.
[The title is Latin and means Book 5 or Book of the Prince. Regulus is also the name of the star which marks the beginning or 0 degree of the constellation Leo.] ...

...The SECOND GESTURE...
...19. Let him raise the wand, trace the Mark of the Beast, and cry AIWAZ!

[The Mark of the Beast is a sign in the form of a solar circle with a dot in the middle, and below it a lunar crescent with two small crescents below that. You can draw it in one motion by going round the circle once, then making a wider arc to draw the crescent, then going back in two loops under the crescent. Yes, I know this still sounds pretty vague, but it's the best I can think of right now. As the pentagrams are symbols of the four material elements, so is the Mark of the Beast the symbol of Spirit. Aiwaz should be visualised as "a tall dark man in his thirties, well-knit, active and strong, with the face of a savage king, and eyes veiled lest their gaze destroy what they saw."]

20. Let him trace the invoking Hexagram of The Beast.

[This is the Unicursal Hexagram, drawn from the top middle point deosil towards the bottom right, top left, bottom middle, top right, bottom left, top middle.]

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An interesting article I recommend reading:
[SIZE=+3]THE SIX~POINTED STAR[/SIZE]

THE MARK OF THE BEAST

Fantine said:

Can we talk about the issues and not what may or may not be their symbols?

The star of David has been around for many, many years, and any resemblance it may bear to the symbol you're talking about is purely coincidental.

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So certain, are you?

WayWord said:

"Coincidence. That's an explanation used by fools and liars."

- Lionel Luthor, Smalliville Season Three, Episode 17 - Legacy
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“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”

- Auric Goldfinger, Goldfinger

“Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys.”

- Emma Bull, American sci-fi & fantasy author

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Fantine said:

Can we talk about the issues and not what may or may not be their symbols?

The star of David has been around for many, many years, and any resemblance it may bear to the symbol you're talking about is purely coincidental.

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The issue is that many Christians have been deceived by Zionists into believing that the creation of the modern nation-state of Israel was an act of God. Therefore, a great number of Christians support Israel no matter what atrocities the Israeli government might commit. Furthermore, the lie is widely believed that Jews are the 'chosen people of God'. The New Testament clearly states that only those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are given the right to be called the sons and daughters of God, no matter what their race is, whether they are Jew or Gentile. Throughout the Old Testament, Israelites who rejected God were judged and condemned. The apostle John tells us in his first letter that no one knows the Father unless he knows the Son. Any claims of Jews to worship the One True God (Yahweh) are false.

See 1 John 2:23, 4:15-16
2 John 1:9

jayem said:

If you support the state of Israel, then base it on their policies and not on some apocalyptic theological dogma. And if you don't support Israel, then use similar rational criteria, and not arcane, occultic balderdash.

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Have you ever examined some of the racist and occult sources and foundations of atheism?

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla." (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], "The Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex," [1871], John Murray: London, Second Edition, 1922, reprint, pp.241-242).

See page 193 in this online version: Descent of Man

You might also find the following articles of interest:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/social.html

DOMESTICATING THE ANTHROPOMORPHIC APES
PART 1 of 2
http://www.newswithviews.com/Collins/phillip6.htm

If you research the British Royal Society that initially supported evolution, you'll find that practically all of its founding members were Masons.