Lee's Rules: new Rules for the site....please acknowlege.....

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[quote Lee]
Hi everyone,

Thank you for your patience. In the past 18 days, I have had a lot of PMs from people sharing their concerns and hopes. I want you to know that I have listened, and in the next 5 days we will be addressing many of those concerns, including:
  1. Overwhelming support to return to the christianforums.com site.
  2. Concern about efficacy of Wiki Policy
  3. Rules
  4. Desire for unbiased and fair staff action
  5. Fear that changes will adversely affect groups on the forum
In order to make sure that we can make the forum a better place for everyone, I am going to:
  1. Gather a small group of advisory members
  2. Create private staff forums to discuss staff structure and policy going forward.
  3. Return the site to a more inreach focus as contrasted with outreach. This will not affect access for non-Christians.
  4. Work with Christian and non-Christian staff to determine where non-Christian staff may mod.
  5. Create a new policy for staff. Staff serve at my pleasure, they will no longer be elected or subject to member recall.
  6. Instate a reconciliation team to handle appeals, mediate member-member conflict, staff-member conflict, oversee staff, and make recommendations to my designee as concerns staff discipline, and or staff removal.
  7. Provide a wiki formatted forum for members to discuss a rule or provide solutions to a problem.
  8. Turn on the infraction system with some modifications.
New Staff Structure
Moderation:
Mods -Admins (team leaders) - Advisors

Staff conflict/discipline:
Mods -Admins (team leaders) - Advisors/HR Assistant

Staff Action Mediation:
(members) - Reconciliation team - Advisors/HR Assistant

Technical support:

Superadmins

Temporary rules:
  • The names or titles of God, including Jesus Christ and the Persons of the Trinity (Father, Son, or Holy Spirit), in any language, are not to be used as expletives or interjections or in an abusive, mocking, or insulting way.
  • Sharing of information about one's beliefs, for instance by quoting Bible verses or witnessing, is encouraged. Honest debate and discussion regarding the existence and nature of God is allowed and welcome. Mockery of Christians, Christians beliefs, and the Christian God are not.
  • Promotion of the religion or rituals of Satanism is strictly prohibited. Promotion is defined as the active attempt to sway others to Satanic beliefs and/or practices.
  • Flaming, baiting, trolling, or feeding trolls is not allowed. This also applies to groups. In other words, play nice, don't hurt others, nor call them names.
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  • Harassment of another member is not allowed.
  • Threads which are off topic for the individual forums are not allowed, and substantial derails ot threads are not looked upon in a favorable fashion.
  • Congregational Forums wishing to remain safe havens may choose to limit debate to members of their own denomination, insist that all posts conform to their creed etc.
  • Age and or gender restrictions are to be respected.
  • Reasonable confidentiality will be respected by Staff and Members, alike.
  • Issues with staff decisions should be taken to the staff member, then the reconciliation team, period. Don't post them, don't PM them to others, don't take them to Lee.
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  • Don't spam in threads or sigs, don't promote get rich quick schemes anywhere on the site.
  • Use the brain God gave you. Think before you post. Think about how your post may affect someone else.
 

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Is there a stipulation or rule regarding those in this forum who may claim to be Jewish but are not halachically by Orthodox standards (born or convert)? I think it's absolutely disingenuous for anyone including Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, or Messianic to be claiming they are Jews when they are obviously not(unless born). I'm not sure if this has been happening but if somebody, for instance, had a Reform conversion, they are no more Jewish than say Jesse Jackson and are frauds and should be called out as such. We come from many different backgrounds and ideals on this forum and we can respect the fact the others may hold varying opinions, but one thing we need is clarity and honesty. My 2 cents anyhow.
 
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Is there a stipulation or rule regarding those in this forum who may claim to be Jewish but are not halachically by Orthodox standards (born or convert)? I think it's absolutely disingenuous for anyone including Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, or Messianic to be claiming they are Jews when they are obviously not(unless born). I'm not sure if this has been happening but if somebody, for instance, had a Reform conversion, they are no more Jewish than say Jesse Jackson and are frauds and should be called out as such. We come from many different backgrounds and ideals on this forum and we can respect the fact the others may hold varying opinions, but one thing we need is clarity and honesty. My 2 cents anyhow.
Oh, pleeeeeeze! start a thread why don'tcha? Don't side track a simple acknowledgement thread with sociological or political meanderings, ok? :D
 
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Is there a stipulation or rule regarding those in this forum who may claim to be Jewish but are not halachically by Orthodox standards (born or convert)? I think it's absolutely disingenuous for anyone including Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, or Messianic to be claiming they are Jews when they are obviously not(unless born). I'm not sure if this has been happening but if somebody, for instance, had a Reform conversion, they are no more Jewish than say Jesse Jackson and are frauds and should be called out as such. We come from many different backgrounds and ideals on this forum and we can respect the fact the others may hold varying opinions, but one thing we need is clarity and honesty. My 2 cents anyhow.
that is a widespread Jewish belief but only a minority belief in MJ, therefore we are not addressing it as a forum guidline here...We have had a poll or two on this issue before and most disagreed believing, instead that being a Gentile grafted in also gave you rights to belong to the family as close as any Jew, and afforded the believer with all the rights any Jew has with in the MJ community(Jews not in the MJ community would disagree naturally and thats ok:thumbsup:):wave:
 
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Understood Tishri. I just want to make sure posters are qualified, in order for clarity. To me there's a vast gulf between an Orthodox Jewish perspective and that of a Reform. I'm going to approach a conversation differently with somebody who believes the Torah entirely (+oral and mystical) was given to Moses at Sinai and somebody who believes in the Documentary Hypothesis (JEDP) and eating shellfish.
 
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Is there a stipulation or rule regarding those in this forum who may claim to be Jewish but are not halachically by Orthodox standards (born or convert)? I think it's absolutely disingenuous for anyone including Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, or Messianic to be claiming they are Jews when they are obviously not(unless born). I'm not sure if this has been happening but if somebody, for instance, had a Reform conversion, they are no more Jewish than say Jesse Jackson and are frauds and should be called out as such. We come from many different backgrounds and ideals on this forum and we can respect the fact the others may hold varying opinions, but one thing we need is clarity and honesty. My 2 cents anyhow.
I think that in addition to born Jews, we have to allow for those acknowledged by a Jewish beit din to be converts.

And that would include Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and Messianic conversions.

You don't have this problem on the Jewish boards. No one is going around checking the credentials of converts, or even ASKING if someone is a convert.
 
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