This is scary. Pray for our Serbian brothers and sisters.

Orthosdoxa · Feb 1, 2007

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015059.php

Thanks, Bill Clinton and Wesley Clark, for bombing our holy Churches on Pasca and wiping out so many Serbs, contributing to this whole mess. Really great job.

Khaleas · Feb 1, 2007

And then they send in a Finn to try to solve the problems... especially since parts of the government has already put a ban on any talks with him.
But you got my vote there!!

Knowledge3 · Feb 1, 2007

I am confident that God is in ultimate control of everything and place my humble confidence in Him. :crosseo:

Anhelyna · Feb 1, 2007

He may be in control - but man has to listen to Him - and that is where I have severe doubts

Orthocat · Feb 1, 2007

Anhelyna said:
He may be in control - but man has to listen to Him - and that is where I have severe doubts

I don't think it was God that Bill Clinton was known for listening to...

Anony - they are certainly in our prayers...now and forever.

Akathist · Feb 1, 2007

The link is not working but I was in Serbia in 2001 and saw first hand the destruction that they had not yet recovered from.

I was told by my Serbian husband who lived through the bombings that many of those churches were not being used as churches anymore (from just before the bombings) and were being used by the military however.

Nevertheless, my heart breaks at the destruction.

E.C. · Feb 1, 2007

Link is not working.

I think that because of nationalists such as Milosovic, the ordinary John Doe Orthodox have been given a bad name and because of this; what does the US do? Sit back and watch because "Those people are Serb nationalists and their Church supports the murderers" but fail to remember that the opinions of the people and the government are two completely different opinions. For one 2+2=4 and for the other 2+2=22.

Why does the government and the UN claim to try and help the people, but when it comes right down to it they sit back because of lack of interest? Corruption. Lies. Greed. Rwanda, the Holocaust and other bits of death and semi-genocide have come and gone and they say "never again" but the next week when "acts of genocide" occur, they sit their in their fancy chairs and fancy cars and do nothing because all that is happening is "acts" of genocide and supposedly not genocide.

There is nothing that I hate more than those who mix nationalism with religion because such a mix is disastrous and often ends in loss of life of those who did nothing but exist.

Orthosdoxa · Feb 1, 2007

http://www.serbianna.com/photo_2007/0114.html cpntains the same info, if the first link fails

Akathist · Feb 1, 2007

EmperorConstantine said:
Link is not working.

I think that because of nationalists such as Milosovic, the ordinary John Doe Orthodox have been given a bad name and because of this; what does the US do? Sit back and watch because "Those people are Serb nationalists and their Church supports the murderers" but fail to remember that the opinions of the people and the government are two completely different opinions. For one 2+2=4 and for the other 2+2=22.

Why does the government and the UN claim to try and help the people, but when it comes right down to it they sit back because of lack of interest? Corruption. Lies. Greed. Rwanda, the Holocaust and other bits of death and semi-genocide have come and gone and they say "never again" but the next week when "acts of genocide" occur, they sit their in their fancy chairs and fancy cars and do nothing because all that is happening is "acts" of genocide and supposedly not genocide.

There is nothing that I hate more than those who mix nationalism with religion because such a mix is disastrous and often ends in loss of life of those who did nothing but exist.

Amnesty International did get a friend of my husband out of an Albianoan Concentration camp. I never met anyone who was helped by Amnesty International before but what they did was fantastic. They brought him to the US and helped connect him to a Serbian Orthodox Church who in turn helped him find work and a place to live.

People forget that the propaganda Milosovic and his people spread. He had a lot of the older generations especially convinced of lots of falsehoods. I don't think it is fair, as you said to judge the average person in Serbia who really was left unaware.

(Makes me wonder often what I am unaware of and what falsehoods I have come to believe.)

zhilan · Feb 2, 2007

"The United States has never in its history intervened to stop genocide and has in fact rarely even made a point of condemning it as it has occurred." --Samantha Power, A Problem From Hell: America in the Age of Genocide

Good book. Scary.

This is nothing new. :crosseo:

Annoula · Feb 2, 2007

we live in a fair world.. oh yes..

Kas · Feb 2, 2007

Christians Wake Up - Stop Dreaming Of Peace When Your Enemies Dream Of War!

Orthosdoxa · Feb 2, 2007

"The United States has never in its history intervened to stop genocide and has in fact rarely even made a point of condemning it as it has occurred." --Samantha Power, A Problem From Hell: America in the Age of Genocide

So we had nothing at all to do with liberating the Jews from the Nazis?

Kas - some of us are awake. Believe me.

LK

Chacci · Feb 2, 2007

My church was fortunate enough to have Father Nektarios Serfes who is the President of the Decani Monastery relief fund come speak to us of the atrocities he witnessed in Kosovo first hand.

Here is his website.

Asking for your prayers,
Chacci

Orthosdoxa · Feb 2, 2007

Fr Nektarios is a heck of a guy. Funny too.

LK

Sothron · Feb 2, 2007

FWIW they have my prayers and I'll ask St. Patrick to remember them as well. :crosseo:

Philothei · Feb 2, 2007

Praying for our Serbian brothers and sisters...

God bless,
Philothei

zhilan · Feb 2, 2007

Anonykat said:
So we had nothing at all to do with liberating the Jews from the Nazis?

Kas - some of us are awake. Believe me.

LK

We did to an extent, but that's not why we got involved in the war. We didn't -intervene- to stop genocide. We liberated camps after millions had already been killed. And the only reason we got involved in the war was not because of the Holocaust but because of Pearl Harbor. Again and again genocide happens and we say "never again" and then do nothing. You would be shocked. Do you know it took 17 years of a congressman reading about genocides DAILY before we would simply pass a -condemantion of genocide-. Not saying to get involved, just to say "yeah, we think genocide is bad." Did you know we tried to put the Khmer Rouge back into power? It's very very scary.

God forgive us. :crosseo:

Shubunkin · Feb 2, 2007

How is it possible for the U. S. to stop all genocide and similar atrocities all over the planet?

Protoevangel · Feb 2, 2007

It would be wrong to think America were a friend of life, anyway. Look how we treat our unborn children.

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