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Reckless that magazine retracted that profanity you mentioned. Either way if one memeber said 1 bad word in the hundreds of interviews does that make them any less Christian? Look at the lyrics of the many CD's that have had out for the almost last 10 years. No cussing. As with the other things in the av1611 article many have been refuted by others on here. I could take any Christian, even the people that run av1611 and did the article and make them look like the antichrist. If your only source of knowledge about P.O.D. is mainly av1611 then you need to get a bigger picture of the facts. If you want to argue Christian rock can't be or is mainly evil I could debate that point also. I can name so many good bands that blow many missions out of the water when it comes to bringing a biblical truth to people and people to Christ.
 
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Originally posted by Susan
I rebuke and renounce Satan and his evil music in all shapes and forms.

You said in an earlier post that it was your own personal conclusion that you did not want to support POD, and that no one had to agree with you. And yet, you come back with this universal Christian qualifier statement, using the universally Christian character of Satan to exercise your "personal" opinion over all of Christendom. There's something wrong with this Susan. It's either a personal conviction or a universal condemnation. Which is it?
 
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Reckless that magazine retracted that profanity you mentioned.

Did they? Can I have a link, quote, or something that shows me this is true, please?

Either way if one memeber said 1 bad word in the hundreds of interviews does that make them any less Christian?

So you're saying it's ok for a "christian" band to cuss, ruining their reputation of being different than other non-christian bands?

Look at the lyrics of the many CD's that have had out for the almost last 10 years. No cussing. As with the other things in the av1611 article many have been refuted by others on here.

What "things" were "refuted" in the av1611  by others on here?

I could take any Christian, even the people that run av1611 and did the article and make them look like the antichrist. If your only source of knowledge about P.O.D. is mainly av1611 then you need to get a bigger picture of the facts.

What kind of picture of the facts should I get? Please tell me other facts that show me that POD is a Christian band.
 
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So you're saying it's ok for a "christian" band to cuss, ruining their reputation of being different than other non-christian bands?

Obviously you didn't read the post correctly. He never said it was ok to cuss, just that if they make a mistake like you or I do, does it make us any less Christian. Do you have some sort of un christlike agenda against POD and or Christian rock in general?
 
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Originally posted by supermagdalena
I'm simply asking, who are you to judge?  Are you going to judge me too, because things occasionally slip out of my mouth?  Or do you just have a beef with Christian rock?

I'm not judging anyone. Have I judged anyone on here? I think it's wrong to have people believe you are a christian band and then when they have a good reputation with christians and non-christians and then "let things occasionally slip out." The Bible says to flee from even the appearance of evil. All I'm saying is that it's NOT GOOD AT ALL for Christianity's reputation when people who claim to be christians (if POD actually does) do not flee from evil but instead they do thing's that non-christians would do. Or do you think differently?
 
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All I'm saying is that it's&nbsp;<B>NOT GOOD&nbsp;AT ALL</B>&nbsp;for Christianity's reputation when people&nbsp;who claim to be christians (if POD actually does)&nbsp;do not flee from evil but instead they do thing's that non-christians would do. Or do you think differently?

How are they doing things nonChristians would do?&nbsp; Be associating with nonChristians?&nbsp; Ok, then maybe I do.&nbsp; I believe that CHRISTian means follower of Christ, literally.&nbsp; And Jesus Himself associated with nonChristians.&nbsp; You're a failure if you never talk to a nonChristian.&nbsp; It's called the Great Commission.&nbsp; Look it up, people.
 
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I think im going to freaking blow up. Thats right, freaking go insane. Right again, I used the word&nbsp;"freaking" in a freaking sentence, quick, someone persecute me! Geez, I tried to keep myself from coming to this thread, from looking at this crap because I KNEW what I would see and I KNEW i wouldnt be able to contain myself, but i did, so here I freaking go!

Ive got a few points to give.

1. Susan, your asking us for proof that P.O.D. doesnt use foul language in any song or any interview or show or tv appearnce? I can only imagine how many years it would take to gather every shred of an article that had anything to do with P.O.D. Besides, you cant ask us that. You've told us that P.O.D. cusses, your asking for proof that they dont? If youve seen them cuss or read there words then cant you provide that yourself? Oops, I forgot, thats an empty accusation with not a bit of true to it.


2. Reggae doesnt equal Rasta, I already made that clear.

3. Heaviness of music equals evil? I dont think Jesus feels the same. Wether you whisper "Jesus I love you", or your chant it, or you scream it at the top of your lungs it makes no difference whatsoever.

4. If youll go back I made a huge post regarding the so called "rasta" lyrics used by P.O.D.

5. When they say they arent a christian band they mean just that. What they mean is they do not wished to be labeled as christian, but as people who know and love and walk&nbsp;with Jesus and God, who have a strong relationship with Him, instead of a bunch of christians trying to shove fire and brimstone down your throat. They dont want to be labeled as christian because sometimes people get the wrong idea, they think of christian they think of AC Bombers, or ranting preachers. Its like they're soldiers. They put on the camoflauge, sneek into enemy lines and let em have it. They can get non christians listening to their music and before they know what hit em they're gettin the truth and theres no stopping now. P.O.D. has led many a person to Christ. At heart members of P.O.D. are indeed christians. They've even admitted it themselves, christian doesnt mean what it used to sadly, P.O.D. knows that, they also know what true christianity is and they are apart&nbsp;of that, but they dont wanna have anything do with the messed up vision of christianity society and ignorant fools have&nbsp;created.

6. There is no proof to a single accusation made. P.O.D. is Rasta because they like Bob Marley. Doesnt work. I have respect for Elton John whos GAY and nonCHRISTIAN. I am a bit sad he doesnt know the truth as I am for all people who dont, but I still respect him for his talents and how hard he works. That doenst make me a gay atheist does it? Next, P.O.D. uses rasta lyrics they are Rasta. No such thing, Rastas a religion not a musical genre. Zion is in the bible, as is Babylon, Tribal, Jah, and many other so called "rasta words". So dont even TRY to argue with me about that. So Sonny grew up listening to Reggae, big deal. Hes exactly right, Reggae is very peaceful music, I both play and like to listen to reggae.


7. On that article they try to say P.O.D.'s symbol is related to Wicca and Pagan and even Satanic symbols. P.O.D.s symbol is on the bible, they didnt even know about how it was&nbsp;used elsewhere, it looked cool, it represented what they stood for so they used it. lll paste an article interview from shoutweb where this comes up and traa cleary exclaims "Please people, its got nothin to do with the Wicca" if you need your proof, honestly I dont think why I should if you wont but If I have to I will.

8. Earlier you said Reckless that being apart of and being around non christians are two different things. Your right, P.O.D. is not apart of what other bands at Ozzfest may believe, but they are around them and that IS NOT A SIN! If so, when you drive to the market to get some milk, you've already sinned. P.O.D. is travelng into the midst of hatred and darkness, armed with spiritual truth and light.
 
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Also I would like to say that I agree: that liking or even being influenced by an ungodly artist's style does not necessarily mean that you personally are ungodly or agree with that person's religion.
To say otherwise would be hypocrisy, as an influence on most of my fictional writing is the style of a writer whom I will not name but who is a cultist and flagrant sinner. (you might want to pray? :pray: )
I don't know that person, I don't&nbsp;live like that person, I don't even like that person, and I unequivocally can say, that decieved cult is evil at its worst.
However I do not think that I am any better or any worse a Christian writer for appropriating a few style elements of writing that are also used by a non-Christian cultist.

In practice, i guess this is no worse nor better than a POD member saying that he was influenced by Bob Marley.

I am sorry and I apologize deeply :sorry: :bow: :sorry:
 
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