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outlaw said:
So...given the tone of this post can we also make fun of Christian views of Astronomy (the geocentric universe for example), views we now know to be ridiculous?
As wrong as it is, the geocentrism of the ancients was actually based on better grounds than any belief in Quaker-style moon-dwellers. The idea that people would believe that their own world is the center of the universe would probably be the default position for humans who don't know any better. But it takes either willful and conscious fabrication or lunacy to claim that one has seen aliens wearing Quaker clothes. Joseph Smith's claims that God gave him a window to look at the moon's inhabitants up close go to the heart of that religion's credibility, because what is the Book of Mormon but another claim from the same man that God gave him a window to long-lost truth?

Brigham Young's beliefs were much more philosophical and not stated as divine revelation, so therefore they are less ridicule-worthy. No one's whole belief system is subject to mockery because of a few wrong suppositions here and there; that is, unless the wrong suppositions are claimed to be authoritative.
 
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outlaw said:
So...given the tone of this post can we also make fun of Christian views of Astronomy (the geocentric universe for example), views we now know to be ridiculous?[/quote

MORMONISM is not a Christian view----just as EVOLUTION is not a Christian view (though Christians may accept it).
 
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Didaskomenos said:
As wrong as it is, the geocentrism of the ancients was actually based on better grounds than any belief in Quaker-style moon-dwellers. The idea that people would believe that their own world is the center of the universe would probably be the default position for humans who don't know any better. But it takes either willful and conscious fabrication or lunacy to claim that one has seen aliens wearing Quaker clothes. Joseph Smith's claims that God gave him a window to look at the moon's inhabitants up close go to the heart of that religion's credibility, because what is the Book of Mormon but another claim from the same man that God gave him a window to long-lost truth?

Brigham Young's beliefs were much more philosophical and not stated as divine revelation, so therefore they are less ridicule-worthy. No one's whole belief system is subject to mockery because of a few wrong suppositions here and there; that is, unless the wrong suppositions are claimed to be authoritative.

Joseph Smith was killed in a riot over bigamy ---- Brigham Young was much more philosophical.

As a Christian, I do believe that the Earth is at the center of GOD's attention if not at the center of the Universe. However, the Universe exists for man's benefit and until life is found somewhere else I see no real reason to consider otherwise....
 
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OC1 said:
Didn't the creationists have like 2000 years of investigating the world before the evolutionists and the uniformitarians came along? What did they accomplish?

They discovered that the world was older that they thought and that there was no global flood while looking for evidence for it back in the 1830s :p.
 
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Army of Juan said:
They discovered that the world was older that they thought and that there was no global flood while looking for evidence for it back in the 1830s :p.

They had no computer simulations then. They didn't realise that Metamorphic rock can deveolpe fast and that petrafication can happen in years and not a millennium.... They knew nothing of DNA and now we can look at the DNA of T-REX. Oddly, the experts claim that under the very best conditions that DNA can only last thousands of years and not millions. He who laughs last still laughs best.....;)
 
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LittleNipper said:
They had no computer simulations then. They didn't realise that Metamorphic rock can deveolpe fast and that petrafication can happen in years and not a millennium.... They knew nothing of DNA and now we can look at the DNA of T-REX. Oddly, the experts claim that under the very best conditions that DNA can only last thousands of years and not millions. He who laughs last still laughs best.....;)

Are you proud of this post I quoted?

Apart from the simulation comment the rest is complete hogwash.
 
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Anyway...

Amber is extremely useful for ancient DNA research. In most fossilized bones the actual organic material has been replaced by minerals. Amber preserves the soft tissue of an animal, though, for vast amounts of time.

from http://www.unmuseum.org/dnadino.htm

As a preventive measure.
 
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