"was also sure that there was a direct correlation between James 2:15-17"
:lol: but there isn't because true faith is in love. :lol: You're talking about apples and oranges here. That scripture doesn't apply.
"other factors ARE involved? Love, for instance? "
Nope, nothing else is involved. No where in those verses is Paul talking about salvation. You're taking it out of context!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You are quite correct in stating that it begins in the heart - no doubt of it."
Exactly, works are a RESULT of what you feel in your heart. True faith. then works. but it only takes true faith to save. Example: Luke cp 24 theif on the cross.
"Hmmm. I don't see any concept of "alone" after "belief" in that passage"
Its pretty easy to see...belief=saved nonbelief=not saved. Its made pretty clear in that passage.
"Or do you also consider that demons are saved"
*sigh* wrong kind of belief there bub. He is talking about true faith.
"In fact dolphins do look very much like mammals...they look similar to whales which are also mammals. "
:lol: Okay, not you're just being dishonest. Look in your science history book at find out what people first thought they were..fish..ie NOT mammals.
"You don't have to...James says you must????? "
if you take it out of context, yes, it says exactly that. Taken out of context the book of james says exactly what you want it to.
"I don't recall that I ever said anything along the lines of "James is saying how to become a Christian." "\
:lol: that's EXACTLY what we are talking about. You say to have salvation you have to do works. The salvation experience is what makes you a christian
Its getting tiring talking to you while you dance around like that.
"I am certainly taking the book into context with all other Biblical records which address the subjects of faith and of the factors involved in salvation "
:lol: no you're not or you would say that works have no part in salvation.
Do I need to go dig up my upteen million verses in the NT that support my position or will you acutally read the bible and find them? Good place to start..synoptics and John.