For Muslim. Why do you call God "Allah"?

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markie4u2001 said:
According to that site the name of God is written
and is Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh. Since vowels didn't count back then it would be HYH SHR HYH and mean's I will prove to be what I will. They must have had vowel sounds or they couldn't talk but another link that Azri posted said the consonants made up the words. That doesn't look like Allah either so it's more likely that Allah mean's Eloah. It may have been a moon god, but that's not their fault. II think thiss is another link tto that site.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-7999.html

I'm not sure what you mean by "Vowels didn't count back then", but vowels are nesscary for proper understanding of words. Vowels are often left out ( as in many semitic tounges ) becuase the reader will be able to identify words by context.

I can assure you, the author of that link is not fluent in biblical Hebrew
 
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I'm gonna say this again:

IT'S NOT THE WORD THAT COUNTS, IT'S THE CONNECTION IT IMPLIES!

If a person calls God by any name, it's not the name, it's the fact that that person speaks well of God.

Example:

Think calling God a "lightbringer" would be good?

The Latin word for "lightbringer" would be Lucifer.

Names don't matter, it's the connection it implies.
 
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I have a question then.

how do we actually get "Yahweh" from "YHWH" ?

You don't. It's a guess at best. It's found in some near Ancient non-relgious documents that some ascribe to be the proper pronouncation of the name. I have my disagreements.

When they see Yod-he, why do they assume it must be pronounced as Yah? or Yahu? Thats ignoreing the fact it can also be pronounced Yeh? Same thing can be said for waw-he must mean weh.

Adding to the confusion is the fact that the four letters of the Tetragrammaton can double as vowels: yodh for i and the dipthong ei, waw for o and u, and he for a and e.

Whenever a verb (e.g. barech, to bless) becomes a future action (e.g. yibarech, will bless), a yod is appended to it. The fact that the Tetragrammaton includes the letters for yihyeh (will be), hayah (was) and howeh (is) also corroborates this point. In other words, the Tetragrammaton does not convey a meaning persay, but a definition. It is the "personal" appelation of God because it is the one word that conveys God's essence: that He exists, independent of any cause.

 
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The tetragammon is one of those words that never really should have vowels with it. Derivatives actually show that it was Yeh (Yehoshua) although it could be Yah (yashua) but I seriously doubt that Tiberian or any other modern Hebraic pronunciation is 100% exactly like the Jews of antiquity spoke it. Hebrew, like Egyptian (Coptic) and Latin and Greek, all seemed to have shared a common phenomenon around the 1st century BCE that forced the hard sound "b" into a softer "v" - a common linguistic trait also occurring in the Germanic languages (cf. pater and father). So there is no telling exactly how a word without vowels ever really was pronounced, because like all languages, and animals too for that matter, they (semitic ones) evolve.

As for the Tetragammon in writ, I've raised the question on my forum, noticing that it was definitely treated with some special treatment, often written in palaeohebraic or even as merely dots to represent the word. A very interesting word indeed! And what does it really mean? No, contrary to popular opinion, it doesn't "really" mean I AM, in fact, it probably was only the name of one of the local Canannite gods of that pantheistic society, the same with El and Ashura, that was chosen to be maximised into its current status today: infinite. The same happened to Zeus and Jupiter, if you recall the Socratic dialogs, and Socrates himself had to show that their very own scripture contradicted this sentiment. So too will you find this idea nil in the Hebrew Scriptures that you call yourselves the "Old Testament."
 
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