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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi BobRyan, I get what you're saying and mostly agree with it. I tend to believe in some form of the typical Adventist teaching that the "ceremonial" laws came to an end at the cross, although the word "ceremonial" is problematic in that it's not a term used in this context. So instead I...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi Bob S, So, you're admitting that you were never a Seventh-day Adventist? Got it. This illustrates the point above. If you were ever an Adventist then you would know that SDA dietary beliefs are derived from the first book of the Bible, not the last four of the Pentateuch...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi daq, I think you are probably sincere, but your position is so foreign to the narrative that it comes across as trolling. It appears to me that you're taking the square peg of a privately held belief and are attempting to force it into the circular hole of the narrative under discussion...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi Leaf473, It was not my intent to present "a complete approach to the law." I admit that I do not understand how every aspect of the law works. What I do know is that there was no problem with the law such that a new covenant had to be established. God "found fault with the people," not with...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi Leaf473, Based on the information laid out in the opening post and the fact that the commandments written on stone are inextricably attached to a numeral I'd say that this isn't likely. Consider a scenario. I am speaking to an audience which regularly plays board games and of the number of...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi Him, If I'm understanding you correctly I believe that I'm in basic agreement with much of what you're saying. I'd say that by looking into the law we see if we are clean or if we're dirty. The law/mirror reveals whether we're sinners. It doesn't do anything other than reveal our...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi Leaf473, If you'll examine the opening post again you'll see that the New Testament authors frequently are appealing to one or more of the Ten Commandments. When they do this do you believe that they are just randomly reaffirming one commandment at a time? Or rather, when they appeal to one...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi daq, You're not responding to the texts which actually addresses your issue. I can't help you if you're ignoring what Scripture actually says. Certainly there are recorded instances where God speaks through other beings. That doesn't help your premise here though since the context is clear...
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    The Ten vs the 603

    Hi daq, Um ... I don't really see any room for debate. The text makes it pretty clear who is God: Exodus 20:22 "GOD said to Moses, "Give this Message to the People of Israel: "You've experienced firsthand how I spoke with you from Heaven." It is apparent that Moses isn't speaking to himself...
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    Works Relation to Salvation

    Hi Leaf473, It seemed good to me to start a new thread which goes into great detail explaining the differences between the Ten and the 603. God bless! But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
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    The Ten vs the 603

    A basic understanding of some of the differences between the Ten Commandments and all the other requirements, statutes and judgments (the 603) is needed in order to understand what was done away with at the cross. 1A. The Ten Commandments were spoken by God. Exodus 20:1 "Then God spoke all...
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    Works Relation to Salvation

    Hi Leaf473, What I'm pointing out is what the Bible says. I didn't write that. I merely quote it. Do you agree that these are separate words and have individual meaning and purpose? 1. Requirements 2. Commands 3. Decrees 4. Laws What do you suppose is the difference between the United States...
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    Works Relation to Salvation

    Hi Leaf473, Ok, I think I'm following along and that's an interesting attempt to bring your belief in alignment with Scripture. That said, I believe the premise is incorrect. Earlier on this thread @Bob S made the claim that "SDAs are masters at segregating laws." To which I replied: You...
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    Works Relation to Salvation

    Hi Leaf473, Icy what you're saying, while not saying I'm in agreement. Please continue. But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
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    Works Relation to Salvation

    Hi Leaf473, So far, so good. I'm following along. Please continue. :thumbsup: But for the grace of God go I,cyspark