BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

[Strong in Him]

I have said and I say again; it is somewhat disgusting to compare the glorious Return of Jesus, to the actions of a thief.

Yet Jesus himself said,
Matthew 24:

“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

Jesus was speaking about his return. Then, right in the middle of that, he uses an analogy about a thief breaking into a house.
Why would he say that?
Why not use a different analogy; maybe something from their history?
What about; "if the people of Noah's day had believed that it was going to rain, they might have repented and cried out to God"?
"If Pharaoh had known that his first born son would die he might have been prepared to let the Hebrew slaves leave Egypt sooner"?
"If the shepherd had known that a wolf was going to attack the sheep he would have stayed awake all night"?
Or some other analogy that gives the sense of something happening suddenly and taking people by surprise?

It is somewhat disgusting to use the word "disgusting" when talking about something that Jesus said.

 

[truthuprootsevil]

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I think Keras believes there will be a "day of the Lord" - which was what OT Jews were looking forward to - aka outpouring of God's wrath, THEN Jesus will return.
I haven't worked out how our Lord's return will be "as a thief in the night" and on a day and hour that no one is expecting, and be in about 15-20 years time after certain other things have happened.

No doubt Keras has some sort of explanation; whether it is Scriptural, is another

Thank you, that's what the Jews believe, that is probably what they are referring to. I haven't or don't remember reading or studying or as sermon such in Scripture, neither Old or New Testament, that God's wrath will come first, then the return of Jesus.

If you look at it this way, a day according to man's measurement is 24 hours, which includes both daylight and darkness. So to say Jesus will come as a thief in the night is still a part of any given 24 hour day. So both are true and work together.

 

[keras]

Jesus was speaking about his return.

That is your mistake.
Matthew 24:42-44, is not referring to the Return of Jesus, It is a Prophecy about the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath.
Proved by the context prior to it, comparing it to Noah's Flood. A worldwide disaster!

Also take note of Isaiah 61:1-2, what Jesus quoted at the commencement of His Ministry. He ended that quote before -and a day of the vengeance of our God. Then it goes on to tell about how His faithful peoples will be rewarded.
Therefore; we know the next Prophesied event we can expect will be the Sixth Seal.

 

[Strong in Him]

That is your mistake.
Matthew 24:42-44, is not referring to the Return of Jesus,

“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

Jesus said that the Lord, the Son of Man, would come at a time when he was not expected. He doesn't mention the Lord's vengeance and wrath in these verses.

 

[keras]

Jesus said that the Lord, the Son of Man, would come at a time when he was not expected. He doesn't mention the Lord's vengeance and wrath in these verses.

Jesus does give warning of another disaster like Noah's Flood. Matthew 24:36-44

But there is over 100 Prophesies that tell about a Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. They do not relate to the glorious Day of Jesus' Return.
The sequence given in Revelation, informs us of a terrible Day when the Lord sends a world changing disaster; the Sixth Seal, Rev 6:12-17
Then, many things must take place, before the Glorious Return - Revelation 19:11

 

[Strong in Him]

Jesus does give warning of another disaster like Noah's Flood. Matthew 24:36-44

No:

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

This doesn't say there will be another flood. It says that in Noah's day, people kept on eating, drinking, marrying etc - just living their lives - until Noah entered the ark. In other words, they took no notice of Noah's warning. When Noah had entered the ark and closed the door, it was too late for the people to be saved.
So it will be when the Son of Man comes. When that happens - and it will be unexpected - it will be too late for people to look for salvation.

But there is over 100 Prophesies that tell about a Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. They do not relate to the glorious Day of Jesus' Return.

Because they didn't know about Jesus in the OT.
It could be that they believed their Messiah would come on the Day of the Lord to punish Israel's enemies.

The sequence given in Revelation, informs us of a terrible Day when the Lord sends a world changing disaster; the Sixth Seal, Rev 6:12-17
Then, many things must take place, before the Glorious Return - Revelation 19:11

According to your interpretation.
That doesn't alter the fact that when Jesus spoke of his return in Matthew 24 he used the analogy of a thief in the night.
And you have called that "disgusting".

 

[keras]

That doesn't alter the fact that when Jesus spoke of his return in Matthew 24 he used the analogy of a thief in the night.

Please write out where Jesus mentions His Return in Matthew 24:36-44
We know His 'coming' in fiery wrath, He will not be seen. Hab 3:4, Psalms 18:11 and He remains in His Holy Temple in heaven, Psalms 11:4-6

It is obvious that the event that comes unexpectedly, is not the Glorious Return. Those Christians taken to the place of safety on earth, Rev 12:14, only need to mark off 1260 days to know when Jesus will Return.

 

[Strong in Him]

Please write out where Jesus mentions His Return in Matthew 24:36-44

I've quoted these verses before.

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

He doesn't say; "you don't know when the fiery wrath will begin" or anything else. He is talking about the coming of the Lord or Son of Man (himself).
The "fiery wrath" or a "CME" is not the Lord or the Son of Man.

We know His 'coming' in fiery wrath,

So you say.

It is obvious that the event that comes unexpectedly, is not the Glorious Return.

It's obvious to you and you're telling everyone else that this is the case.