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Christian Leaders Denounce President Trump’s Rob Reiner Comments as ‘Vile’ and ‘Shameful’

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Christian leaders and influencers have been quick to blast President Donald Trump’s comments that followed the murder of beloved filmmaker and actor Rob Reiner (78) and his wife, film producer Michele Singer Reiner (68).

According to reports, Rob and Michele were allegedly murdered by their 32-year-old son, Nick, on the afternoon of Sunday (Dec. 14). One of Reiner’s daughters alerted authorities after discovering Rob and Michele in their home with both of their throats slit. Nick was later arrested and is being held without bond. Rob was previously married to actor Penny Marshall from 1971-1981. He married Michele in 1989.

Reiner is known for directing the films “A Few Good Men,” “The Princess Bride,” “Misery,” “Stand by Me,” “This Is Spinal Tap,” “When Harry Met Sally,” and “The American President.”

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So much for our conservative counterparts lecturing the rest of us over what they considered to be inappropriate responses concerning the death of Charlie Kirk!

Conservatives found fault with individual private citizens over their response to Kirk's death in
contrast Donald Trump who is supposed to be the President for all Americans - including the ones who have criticized him publicly!


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A President who is incapable of tolerating criticisms from private citizens should never aspire to serve in the White House - constant criticism and personal attacks come with the territory and should never invoke "an unhinged" response!

If Trump had nothing good to say about Rob and Michele Reiner then he should have had the White House staff issue the customary condolences - his rant reflects far more on his state of mind than that of his intended target(s)!
 
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...A President who is incapable of tolerating criticisms from private citizens should never aspire to serve in the White House - constant criticism and personal attacks come with the territory and should never invoke "an unhinged" response!...
I have 2 questions for you...

1) Do you have the authority to dictate or define, what is unhinged??

If not, then 2) can you post links to where you berated Rob Reiner?? For these unhinged remarks he made about Trump:
•he said that Trump posed a threat to American democracy.
•In 2017 he said he believed Trump was “mentally unfit” to serve as president
•he said Trump is the single most unqualified human being to ever assume the presidency of the United States
•he said Trump showed no interest in trying to find out how government works
•In 2024, he said that another Trump presidency could turn the United States from a democracy into an “autocracy.”
•he said Trump "can probably spell the word ‘bible’, I don’t think he’s ever read it and I don’t think he has any idea what’s in it."
•he said this about us Christians who support Trump, "but they excuse all that by saying God works in mysterious ways, and that he sent us this flawed vessel by which we can achieve the goals that we want to achieve."
•he called Trump a criminal
•he said Trump "basically lies every minute of his life”
•he once compared Trump’s repeated political comebacks to a “zombie or a cockroach.”
•he said Trump has declared war on this democracy.
•he said Trump takes funds that were appropriated by Congress and then refuses to distribute them, in clear contradiction to the Constitution, the separation of powers.
•he said Trump was threatening the Hollywood community's First Amendment rights.
 
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If not, then 2) can you post links to where you berated Rob Reiner?? For these unhinged remarks he made about Trump:
•he said that Trump posed a threat to American democracy.
•In 2017 he said he believed Trump was “mentally unfit” to serve as president
•he said Trump is the single most unqualified human being to ever assume the presidency of the United States
•he said Trump showed no interest in trying to find out how government works
•In 2024, he said that another Trump presidency could turn the United States from a democracy into an “autocracy.”
•he said Trump "can probably spell the word ‘bible’, I don’t think he’s ever read it and I don’t think he has any idea what’s in it."
•he said this about us Christians who support Trump, "but they excuse all that by saying God works in mysterious ways, and that he sent us this flawed vessel by which we can achieve the goals that we want to achieve."
•he called Trump a criminal
•he said Trump "basically lies every minute of his life”
•he once compared Trump’s repeated political comebacks to a “zombie or a cockroach.”
•he said Trump has declared war on this democracy.
•he said Trump takes funds that were appropriated by Congress and then refuses to distribute them, in clear contradiction to the Constitution, the separation of powers.
•he said Trump was threatening the Hollywood community's First Amendment rights.
Most of these are demonstrably true. For example, Trump is a criminal. Not arguably so; he's a convicted felon.

Trump was once asked for his favorite Bible verse, and couldn't cite even one verse.

It's a broad exaggeration to say that Trump lies every minute of his life. He has to sleep sometime. However, even his followers admit that he's a compulsive liar.

Trump has indeed refused to use funds that were by law required to be spent as Congress directed.

No rational person would deny the facts.
 
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Most of these are demonstrably true.
Same thing millions of people say re: his words on Rob Reiner.

For example, Trump is a criminal. Not arguably so; he's a convicted felon.
No, he's not a criminal --since lawfare was used on him to manufscture those felonies.
but... dont worry... The SCOTUS will soon cancel out the wicked, wrongful convictions. :cool:

Trump was once asked for his favorite Bible verse, and couldn't cite even one verse.
So what.

There are multitudes of actual clergy folks who feel the same way.

Do you feel thats a requirement in order to be a Christian??

It's a broad exaggeration to say that Trump lies every minute of his life. He has to sleep sometime. However, even his followers admit that he's a compulsive liar.
I believe you are being dishonest here --just like Rob Reiner.
In which Trump has a Right and a responsibility, to combat deceit levied against him. Just like he did yesterday re: Reiner

Trump has indeed refused to use funds that were by law required to be spent as Congress directed.

No rational person would deny the facts.
I believe Trump has indeed learned from Biden and Obama, exactly how to refuse to use funds that were by law required to be spent as Congress directed. Irrational, illogical people will disagree with that.
 
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Most of these are demonstrably true.
Same thing millions of people say re: his words on Rob Reiner.
Comes down to evidence. People are disgusted with Trump over his deranged rant against Reiner. They didn't get angry at Reiner, because what he said was true.

For example, Trump is a criminal. Not arguably so; he's a convicted felon.

No, he's not a criminal
Donald Trump has been convicted on 34 felony counts
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/how-many-felonies-has-trump-been-convicted-of-651b3f

Reality doesn't care about denials.
The SCOTUS will soon cancel out the wicked, wrongful convictions.
They are radical right-wing, but most of them aren't crooked. Unlikely that they'll become so for Trump.

Trump was once asked for his favorite Bible verse, and couldn't cite even one verse.
So Reiner was right.
Do you feel thats a requirement in order to be a Christian??
I don't know any Christians who can't name even one verse in the Bible.

It's a broad exaggeration to say that Trump lies every minute of his life. He has to sleep sometime. However, even his followers admit that he's a compulsive liar.

I believe you are being dishonest here
Mike Pence
John Ratcliffe
William Barr
Brad Raffensperger
Former Director Of The Cybersecurity And Infrastructure Security Agency Chris Krebs
Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen
Former Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey And House Speaker Lee Chatfield

(long list)

I believe Trump has indeed learned from Biden and Obama, exactly how to refuse to use funds that were by law required to be spent
However he learned, you're now agreeing that it's true as well.

And now, you seem to have realized why people are denouncing Trump's deranged rant against Reiner.
 
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Plenty of misguided minds celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Trump, misguided as he may be, has not celebrated the deaths of the Reiners which was not a political assassination.
 
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Plenty of misguided minds celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Those who celebrated Kirk's killing are no better than Trump.
deaths of the Reiners which was not a political assassination.
We don't know for a fact that Kirk was killed for calling on Trump to come clean about his activities with Epstein. His accused killer had only incidental connections with the far-right.
 
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Those who celebrated Kirk's killing are no better than Trump.

We don't know for a fact that Kirk was killed for calling on Trump to come clean about his activities with Epstein. His accused killer had only incidental connections with the far-right.
Those who celebrate scam prosecutions and lawfare against Trump, are as worse as Rob Reiner's rants.

We don't know for a fact that Reiner was NOT killed for telling lies about Trump, all we know is Reiner loved telling lies about Trump to the anti-America citizens who enjoyed experiencing Reiner’s deceit.
 
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Those who celebrate scam prosecutions and lawfare against Trump
He was convicted by a jury of his peers. Over a dozen felonies. A jury found that he sexually assaulted a woman. Every criminal claims that there was a conspiracy against him.

We don't know for a fact that Reiner was NOT killed for telling lies about Trump,
In fact, as you have seen, we don't even have any evidence that he told any lies about Trump.
all we know is Reiner loved telling lies about Trump
In the absence of evidence, all you have is wishful thinking.
 
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On the other hand...

Greene: Trump labeling her ‘traitor’ ‘directly fueled’ death threats against family
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5638337-marjorie-taylor-greene-donald-trump-threats/

Trump attacks on political opponents spur a surge of threats, NBC News review finds

In recent weeks, nearly two dozen elected officials on both sides of the aisle said they were targeted after getting caught in the president's crosshairs.
 
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Most of these are demonstrably true.
Yes, I said the same thing re: what Trump said about Reiner's antics.

Comes down to evidence.
Exactly. And evidence doesn't matter to lawfare experts like Comey and Tish and Jack Smith and others who fleeced Trump's 4th 5th and 6th Amendment rights.
People are disgusted with Trump over his deranged rant against Reiner.
Millions of people are NOT disgusted with Trump over his retaliatory words about Reiner.

They didn't get angry at Reiner, because what he said was true.
Millions of people did get angry at Reiner, because what he said was deranged lies.

For example, Trump is a criminal. Not arguably so; he's a convicted felon.
For example, Trump is a criminal OOONLY in the minds of folks who enjoyed lawfare used on Trump to secure sham felony convictions within banana republic/kangaroo courts like the Engeron court.

But hey... the SCOTUS will soon wipe that all of that lawfare clean off of Trump's record :cool:

Donald Trump has been wrongfully convicted on over 34 charges



Reality doesn't care about denials.
AND the SCOTUS doesnt care for lawfare. As we will soon see.

They are radical right-wing, but most of them aren't crooked. Unlikely that they'll become so for Trump.
Yep. Just like the radical left wing that turned crooked just to go after Trump

So Reiner was right.

I don't know any Christians who can't name even one verse in the Bible.
Reiner and you are wrong, since there are millions of Chrisitans who can't name a favorite, I repeat, A FAVORITE verse.

Pence, Bolton, William Barr
Brad Raffensperger
Former Director Of The Cybersecurity And Infrastructure Security Agency Chris Krebs
Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen
Former Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey And House Speaker Lee Chatfield

(long list)
Yes, many Repubs hated Trump for not joining their party until 2015 when he promised to drain the swamp which they loved dwelling in and wanted it left undisturbed.

However he learned, you're now agreeing that it's true as well.
Nah. I'm agreeing that if folks applauded when Obama and Biden did it, then they should shut up whining now ---and just applaud how Trump followed Obama and Biden instruction manuals flawlessly. Fair???

And now, you seem to have realized why people are denouncing Trump's deranged rant against Reiner.
And now, you seem to dislike why people are having no problem with Trump speaking truth to Reiner's years of deranged rants against Trump.
 
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He was convicted by a jury of his peers.
No, it appears that he was convicted by a jury of anti-Trump NYC residents, who were unaware that Tish and Engeron and others deceived them about criminality.
the SCOTUS will help you realize it when they overturn all of that NYC lawfare.

Every criminal claims that there was a conspiracy against him.
Every criminal?? Even liberal-Democrat ones???
Can you provide links to verify that your claim is not false?

In fact, as you have seen, we don't even have any evidence that he told any lies about Trump.

In the absence of evidence, all you have is wishful thinking.
As we have seen, there's multitudes of evidence that Reiner told many lies about Trump. In the absence of Reiner, I wish we could ask his imprisoned son.
 
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For example, Trump is a criminal OOONLY in the minds of folks who enjoyed lawfare used on Trump
He's was convicted on over a dozen felonies. A court found that he had sexually assaulted a woman. No point in denial.
As we have seen, there's multitudes of evidence that Reiner told many lies about Trump.
But you can't find any? We all know why.
 
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No point in denial.

But you can't find any?
I listed a litany of lies I feel Reiner spewed. It's not my job to make you move away from deceit and dishonesty that the Democrats victimized Trump with since 2017:


•he said that Trump posed a threat to American democracy.
•In 2017 he said he believed Trump was “mentally unfit” to serve as president
•he said Trump is the single most unqualified human being to ever assume the presidency of the United States
•he said Trump showed no interest in trying to find out how government works
•In 2024, he said that another Trump presidency could turn the United States from a democracy into an “autocracy.”
•he said Trump "can probably spell the word ‘bible’, I don’t think he’s ever read it and I don’t think he has any idea what’s in it."
•he said this about us Christians who support Trump, "but they excuse all that by saying God works in mysterious ways, and that he sent us this flawed vessel by which we can achieve the goals that we want to achieve."
•he called Trump a criminal
•he said Trump "basically lies every minute of his life”
•he once compared Trump’s repeated political comebacks to a “zombie or a cockroach.”
•he said Trump has declared war on this democracy.
•he said Trump takes funds that were appropriated by Congress and then refuses to distribute them, in clear contradiction to the Constitution, the separation of powers.
•he said Trump was threatening the Hollywood community's First Amendment rights.
 
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