If the brain is necessary to have a vision

[Kjelete]

I think of children who are born without a brain, or at least most of it. Most die from it, I know, but some survive. But when they didn't have, let's say, the visual center at the back of their heads, they still saw. I know that the muscle attachment to the eyes is independent of a brain, and is controlled by the cerebral cortex, so the soul is probably in the cerebral cortex anyway, but they should really be blind when they don't have the "visual" center at the back of their heads:

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[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Haven't you, or someone else, done this exact same thing already? I'm getting SERIOUS deja vu from this.

 

[Larniavc]

Haven't you, or someone else, done this exact same thing already? I'm getting SERIOUS deja vu from this.

Yep. Fourth time I think. Stupid then, stupid now.

 

[Shemjaza]

Don't they have a brain with most of the working parts, just smushed into a an unusually small area of the skull?

 

[Ophiolite]

Don't they have a brain with most of the working parts, just smushed into a an unusually small area of the skull?

Precisely. Apparently there are several variants, which in the most extreme cases prevent anything approaching normal mental life. However, in most cases the brain stem can take care of basic functions and the plasticity of the (compressed) cortex material allows a degree of adaptation. Scans presented out of context create a false impression of the amount of brain material present. This is done either through incompetence of the commentators, or deliberate lies for sensationalist purposes.

 

[Kjelete]

No, only the brain-stem. Maybe 1 % of a brain in addition

Don't they have a brain with most of the working parts, just smushed into a an unusually small area of the skull?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No, only the brain-stem. Maybe 1 % of a brain in addition

Not in every case. Most are born with only a portion of the brain missing, but enough to basically end up not surviving to later life. I don't think there's even been one case of a child with anencephaly living into double digits. Which kind of puts a crimp in your claim.

 

[Kjelete]

Not in every case. Most are born with only a portion of the brain missing, but enough to basically end up not surviving to later life. I don't think there's even been one case of a child with anencephaly living into double digits. Which kind of puts a crimp in your claim.

They say he`s living still: https://www.kidspot.com.au/news/our...d/news-story/b143a02439b372a78a1c0d989c80a281

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

They say he`s living still: https://www.kidspot.com.au/news/our...d/news-story/b143a02439b372a78a1c0d989c80a281

Weblink is broken on my end.

But still, that really doesn't go against what I said. 6 years old isn't double digits, and if you want to support your claim, then show an adult with anencephaly, not a young child.

 

[Kjelete]

Weblink is broken on my end.

But still, that really doesn't go against what I said. 6 years old isn't double digits, and if you want to support your claim, then show an adult with anencephaly, not a young child.

I don`t think it matters. You are determined that no one has a soul probably. I can`t change your view

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I don`t think it matters. You are determined that no one has a soul probably. I can`t change your view

... if you want to talk about souls, don't come to the physical and life sciences forum. It's not a place for the metaphysical.

My opinion on the absence or presence of the soul does not matter when the fact that no-one survives with anencephaly, which is just an outright medical and biological fact.

 

[partinobodycular]

My opinion on the absence or presence of the soul does not matter when the fact that no-one survives with anencephaly, which is just an outright medical and biological fact.

Noah Wall is now 13 years old, but he didn't have anencephaly, he had hydrocephalus which is completely treatable simply by inserting a shunt into the skull and draining off the excess fluid. Many sufferers go on to lead completely normal lives. In fact Noah's brain size went from 2% of normal at birth to 80% of normal at age three.

There's nothing particularly unusual about Noah Wall. What's unusual is his parents' mission to make him a spokesperson for disability rights.

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[Factotum]

I think of children who are born without a brain, or at least most of it. Most die from it, I know, but some survive. But when they didn't have, let's say, the visual center at the back of their heads, they still saw. I know that the muscle attachment to the eyes is independent of a brain, and is controlled by the cerebral cortex, so the soul is probably in the cerebral cortex anyway, but they should really be blind when they don't have the "visual" center at the back of their heads:

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[Shemjaza]

No, only the brain-stem. Maybe 1 % of a brain in addition

Doesn't look like this is accurate.

His brain was compressed not missing.