The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

[Apple Sky]

You still referring to the fictional lost diary of Admiral Byrd?

Yes - what makes you think it is fictional ?

 

[Ophiolite]

Yes - what makes you think it is fictional ?

Well there is this:
Primary sources contain no such statements. Byrd’s expedition logs, radio transmissions, and official reports from his 1926 flight over the Arctic and his later Antarctic expeditions contain no references to hollow Earth entrances, polar openings, hidden civilizations, or unexpected warm areas.


• The infamous “secret diary” is not authentic. A text often cited as Byrd’s suppressed personal account, describing flying into an inner world or meeting non-human beings, surfaced decades after his death and is demonstrably not in Byrd’s hand, tone, or known writing style. There is no archival trail for its origin.


• Misinterpretation of a 1947 remark. Byrd made public comments in the late 1940s about the strategic significance of the polar regions, describing them as potential avenues for military attack or rapid travel. A key phrase—often quoted as him saying there was “a land beyond the Pole”—referred to the geographical and geopolitical importance of the Arctic basin, not a literal landmass.


• Operational records show the expected Arctic environment. Meteorological notes, flight logs, and scientific observations from Byrd and his contemporaries match what is now well-established about the polar climate and geography. No anomalous warm regions, hidden valleys, or unexplored continents appear in the data.


• No corroboration from other explorers. Amundsen, Nobile, Ellsworth, MacMillan, and later Arctic researchers crossed the same regions by air and ice, producing detailed maps and measurements that leave no room for the extraordinary features attributed to Byrd’s accounts.


• Fringe interpretations arise from later authors. Most extraordinary claims first appear in 1950s–1980s hollow-Earth or esoteric literature that used Byrd as an authority figure but provided no primary documentation.

Summary by ChatGpt. I shall expand on any of these to which you offer an evidenced refutation.

 

[Apple Sky]

Well there is this:
Primary sources contain no such statements. Byrd’s expedition logs, radio transmissions, and official reports from his 1926 flight over the Arctic and his later Antarctic expeditions contain no references to hollow Earth entrances, polar openings, hidden civilizations, or unexpected warm areas.


• The infamous “secret diary” is not authentic. A text often cited as Byrd’s suppressed personal account, describing flying into an inner world or meeting non-human beings, surfaced decades after his death and is demonstrably not in Byrd’s hand, tone, or known writing style. There is no archival trail for its origin.


• Misinterpretation of a 1947 remark. Byrd made public comments in the late 1940s about the strategic significance of the polar regions, describing them as potential avenues for military attack or rapid travel. A key phrase—often quoted as him saying there was “a land beyond the Pole”—referred to the geographical and geopolitical importance of the Arctic basin, not a literal landmass.


• Operational records show the expected Arctic environment. Meteorological notes, flight logs, and scientific observations from Byrd and his contemporaries match what is now well-established about the polar climate and geography. No anomalous warm regions, hidden valleys, or unexplored continents appear in the data.


• No corroboration from other explorers. Amundsen, Nobile, Ellsworth, MacMillan, and later Arctic researchers crossed the same regions by air and ice, producing detailed maps and measurements that leave no room for the extraordinary features attributed to Byrd’s accounts.


• Fringe interpretations arise from later authors. Most extraordinary claims first appear in 1950s–1980s hollow-Earth or esoteric literature that used Byrd as an authority figure but provided no primary documentation.

Summary by ChatGpt. I shall expand on any of these to which you offer an evidenced refutation.

I believe their extraordinary story.
Richard Byrd was an American polar explorer known for his arctic and Antarctic expeditions, which gained him fame and recognition. His most notable Arctic event was a 1926 flight over the North Pole with pilot Floyd Bennett

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Things Hidden Under The North Pole!​

 

[prodromos]

Yes - what makes you think it is fictional ?

Apart from what @Ophiolite has already posted, there is the minor detail of the hollow earth 'ambassador' bringing up the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which happened in 1945, more than a decade after Admiral Byrd's fictional encounter with the hollow earthers. It demonstrates that the fictional diary wasn't written until after World War I.

 

[Apple Sky]

Apart from what @Ophiolite has already posted, there is the minor detail of the hollow earth 'ambassador' bringing up the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which happened in 1945, more than a decade after Admiral Byrd's fictional encounter with the hollow earthers. It demonstrates that the fictional diary wasn't written until after World War I.

Good point here, never looked at it like this.

 

[rambot]

I don't buy that. That is argument for 3rd grade of elementary school. ^^



Average Joe can't go to Antarctica cause truth would be revealed.

"The Final Experiment" already dealt with that.

Go watch the movie to see how well your brethren handled it.

At this point, you choose to ignore evidence due to hubris.

 

[prodromos]

Good point here, never looked at it like this.

Ahem
I only pointed out this issue the first time you brought it up.

The problem you have is that the 'lost diary' was brought to your attention by Dean Odle which in your mind gives it an automatic pass since you appear to consider him to be nearly infallible.

Instead, what it should do is open your eyes to just how susceptible Dean Odle is to false ideas, and maybe take him down off that pedestal you've put him up on.

 

[Apple Sky]

The problem you have is that the 'lost diary' was brought to your attention by Dean Odle which in your mind gives it an automatic pass since you appear to consider him to be nearly infallible.

I already knew about the lost diaries, in fact I had already purchased the book before Dean had even mentioned it, Dean is not always first to be in the know about stuff.

This does show that we both think on the same lines so he can't be all that wrong

 

[Apple Sky]

Santy Claus

Defense Lawyer: Your honor, I move that the case against my client be dismissed on grounds of the Sanity Clause.

Judge: Motion denied. Everybody knows there ain't no Sanity Clause!

And what is the name 'Santa' an anagram of ?

 

[Ophiolite]

I believe their extraordinary story.

Your really strain the requirement to respect other forum members when, in response to a clear refutation of the forged Byrd document, you continue to declare your belief in unevidenced nonsense. You don't even make an effort to challenge any of the points I made, but double down on claims that, if your opinion was of any value, would be offensive to any of Byrd's descendants. Seriously, would you be OK with people making up fairy stories about you after you were gone?

 

[prodromos]

This does show that we both think on the same lines so he can't be all that wrong

That isn't the only conclusion to be drawn from your experience, since both of you missed the clear evidence that demonstrates it is a work of fiction.

 

[Apple Sky]

Seriously, would you be OK with people making up fairy stories about you after you were gone?

Like they do with Rob Skiba.
Anyway it's not me that is expressing the story, blame the one who wrote the book.