"Don't Give up the Ship"

[DaisyDay]

I am not the one “untethered to reality”.

I didn't say you were, but your rant certainly is.

 

[7thKeeper]

She was no traitor! She was a victim.

No, a full blown traitor to her nation and her oath.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

She was no traitor! She was a victim.

Trespassing on government property during congressional session. Breaking the law. No excuse.

 

[BPPLEE]

First off, thank you for answering my question.



I do not see how this is "ridiculous". It is certainly a partisan jab, I will give you that. But it is not like this is outside the realm of possibility given human nature. It was not that long ago that we saw atrocities ordered by world leaders and Trump has a history of skirting the law while demanding loyalty to his actions.

No, it does not. If it did then the exact same message that is included in every military recruits training would plant the seed. The thing I find telling is the lack of this outrage when a military commander refused to follow Biden's orders because he believed Trumps "big steal" lie.


No, that was not their intent. I don't think you are capable of discerning their intent as you are to far from what their reality is.

The intent was to do exactly what it did, trigger Trump and his supporters. If he had just ignored it and his supporters did the same we wouldn't have heard anything else about it.

 

[DaisyDay]

The intent was to do exactly what it did, trigger Trump and his supporters. If he had just ignored it and his supporters did the same we wouldn't have heard anything else about it.

If the allegations of the second strike on the Venezuelan boat is true, ie that Hegseth ordered, "Kill them all", then some service members do need the message.

 

[BCP1928]

If the allegations of the second strike on the Venezuelan boat is true, ie that Hegseth ordered, "Kill them all", then some service members do need the message.

I'm wondering now if that's not what was behind it.

 

[BCP1928]

I dont share your faith. I could well see "Secretary Of War" Hegseth applying various pressures to remove "obstructionist" individuals from the process to permit illegal or unconstitutional actions. Blowing up suspected criminal boats comes to mind as just an initial test of how far they could go.

He could go further--he could machine gun the survivors in the water.

 

[Pommer]

Do you mean the one who was fought relentlessly for four years by Trump hating liberals, or the one who said to protest peacefully, or the one who recommended national guard troops for Jan 6 security and was ignored by certain liberals who had another agenda. The implication of your question totally ignores the reality of the situation that day. Yes,Trump was the President at that time but he was not responsible for the capital police person who planted two bombs and went on to work for the CIA. Trump was not responsible for the actions of Comey, Wray and all of the other rogue deep state actors who disgraced their offices and oaths by trying to do the very thing Trump was accused of by so many “over turning an election “. Much has come out and probably more to come about what really was behind Jan 6 and the sham Jan 6 investigative committee. The long standing liberal narrative of that is day is completely devoid of truth.

President Trump was “the ‘real victim’!” on January 6?
I see.

 

[RDKirk]

I dont share your faith. I could well see "Secretary Of War" Hegseth applying various pressures to remove "obstructionist" individuals from the process to permit illegal or unconstitutional actions. Blowing up suspected criminal boats comes to mind as just an initial test of how far they could go.

The initial test was renaming the Department of Defense. That was an explicit salient into the business of another branch of government, but the Congress appeased him. The Congress of the 1970s would not have let a president get away with that, even a president of their own party.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The initial test was renaming the Department of Defense. That was an explicit salient into the business of another branch of government, but the Congress appeased him. The Congress of the 1970s would not have let a president get away with that, even a president of their own party.

The last remnants of the Old Republic are being swept away.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The last remnants of the Old Republic are being swept away.

"So this is how the Republic dies - to thunderous applause."

 

[NxNW]

She was no traitor! She was a victim.

She was trying to assassinate the Vice President and Speaker of the House.

 

[RDKirk]

"So this is how the Republic dies - to thunderous applause."

Have you watched episodes 8 and 9 of season 2 of Andor? Eerily prescient of the present day...but really just telling the story of the past.

 

[BPPLEE]

Have you watched episodes 8 and 9 of season 2 of Andor? Eerily prescient of the present day...but really just telling the story of the past.

I have seen you mention Andor a couple of times and I am thinking of checking it out but I don't know much about the chronology of Star Wars. How much of a Star Wars expert do you have to be to keep up with events on the show?

 

[RDKirk]

I have seen you mention Andor a couple of times and I am thinking of checking it out but I don't know much about the chronology of Star Wars. How much of a Star Wars expert do you have to be to keep up with events on the show?

You don't need to know anything about Star Wars. There are plenty of "Easter eggs" for fans, but people who don't know won't miss it. The creator, Tony Gilroy, wasn't even a particular fan of Star Wars himself. Star Wars merely provided him with a setting for a story he had always wanted to tell. I think he intended to tell a "Doctor Zhivago" depth of story for the 21st century.

"This was a 1500-page epic novel about revolution and fascism and rebellion that I'd been really excited about my whole life and didn't really have an opportunity to put anywhere. This was it." -- Tony Gilroy.

Students of 20th century historical conflicts will find nearly as many "Easter eggs" as Star Wars fans. Some Star Wars critics have dismissed it as "not really Star Wars," a war story/spy thriller that could have been set in WWII. Few aliens, no light sabers, almost zero Force. But a real-world setting would have restricted it to a much smaller story. He would have to have invented an empire that would have looked like the Star Wars Empire anyway. Gilroy, btw, is responsible for the Boune trillogy, and some of that Bourne pedigree is apparent.

I will say, though, that if you've seen Rogue One (this story is actually a prequel to Rogue One), you'll get a particular knife twisted in your heart at in the very last ten seconds of the second season that won't be quite as sharp if you haven't seen that movie.

 

[BPPLEE]

You don't need to know anything about Star Wars. There are plenty of "Easter eggs" for fans, but people who don't know won't miss it. The creator, Tony Gilroy, wasn't even a particular fan of Star Wars himself. Star Wars merely provided him with a setting for a story he had always wanted to tell. I think he intended to tell a "Doctor Zhivago" depth of story for the 21st century.

"This was a 1500-page epic novel about revolution and fascism and rebellion that I'd been really excited about my whole life and didn't really have an opportunity to put anywhere. This was it." -- Tony Gilroy.

Students of 20th century historical conflicts will find nearly as many "Easter eggs" as Star Wars fans. Some Star Wars critics have dismissed it as "not really Star Wars," a war story/spy thriller that could have been set in WWII. Few aliens, no light sabers, almost zero Force. But a real-world setting would have restricted it to a much smaller story. He would have to have invented an empire that would have looked like the Star Wars Empire anyway. Gilroy, btw, is responsible for the Boune trillogy, and some of that Bourne pedigree is apparent.

I will say, though, that if you've seen Rogue One (this story is actually a prequel to Rogue One), you'll get a particular knife twisted in your heart at in the very last ten seconds of the second season that won't be quite as sharp if you haven't seen that movie.

Thanks for the info

 

[Belk]

The intent was to do exactly what it did, trigger Trump and his supporters. If he had just ignored it and his supporters did the same we wouldn't have heard anything else about it.

I am doubtful thr intent was singular. I would suspect multiple different reasons.

 

[Postvieww]

She was trying to assassinate the Vice President and Speaker of the House.

There is no truth in that statement. You have absolutely no evidence she was trying to assassinate anyone.

 

[Postvieww]

President Trump was “the ‘real victim’!” on January 6?
I see.

Not what I said ! Trump was a victim of unnatural hatred throughout his entire presidency.

 

[Postvieww]

Trespassing on government property during congressional session. Breaking the law. No excuse.

Placing two pipe bombs at the DNC and RNC was breaking the law as well and nobody shot her.