The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

[RileyG]

I'm sure she appreciates that.

-- A2SG, don't know her personally, but she seems nice....

Peace

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Irrelevant. Teaching about history isn’t endorsing an ideology. That’s the difference.

What do you mean with endorsing an ideology? So, schools have to at least discuss LGBTQ people in the political and historical sense, and schools have an obligation to make sure they are not discriminated against because of their LGBTQ status.

If LGBTQ persons are accepted by society in general, it a good thing that students are exposed to this view regardless of the parents view. Kids are not obligated to share their parents view on all topics.

 

[RileyG]

What do you mean with endorsing an ideology? So, schools have to at least discuss LGBTQ people in the political and historical sense, and schools have an obligation to make sure they are not discriminated against because of their LGBTQ status.

If LGBTQ persons are accepted by society in general, it a good thing that students are exposed to this view regardless of the parents view. Kids are not obligated to share their parents view on all topics.

I don’t know. It’s still controversial and people may be opposed to it. Treat people right and keep social issues from an academic, neutral perspective. Don’t bully or belittle anyone.

Just my opinion to keep everyone happy.

 

[A2SG]

Wrong because I don’t accept an ideology? That’s just an opinion and nothing more.

Opinions can be wrong sometimes, ya know. Gender isn't biology, it's identity.

This isn’t about dogma. It’s about protecting minors from being harmed by an extreme ideology and things they don’t understand.

As has been demonstrated, that isn't happening.

Granted, there have been a small handful of adolescents who have experience adverse outcomes, though most report favorable ones. But that only indicates that more information is needed, not less.

-- A2SG, more information is always better than less.....

 

[RileyG]

Opinions can be wrong sometimes, ya know. Gender isn't biology, it's identity.


As has been demonstrated, that isn't happening.

Granted, there have been a small handful of adolescents who have experience adverse outcomes, though most report favorable ones. But that only indicates that more information is needed, not less.

-- A2SG, more information is always better than less.....

Saying gender is identity is an ideology not based on science. It’s based on a theory if anything. If adults feel that way, good for them, I don’t care.

And as I said, just leave minors alone. They aren’t mature enough.

Adults can make their own decisions.

Is that not fair?

 

[A2SG]

Saying gender is identity is an ideology not based on science.

Scientists disagree.

What Do We Mean By Sex and Gender?

As we pursue our work at Women's Health Research at Yale, it is particularly important to use language that captures the different concepts of sex and gender so

medicine.yale.edu

It’s based on a theory if anything. If adults feel that way, good for them, I don’t care.

And as I said, just leave minors alone. They aren’t mature enough.

Adults can make their own decisions.

Is that not fair?

As I have pointed out a bunch of times already, minors aren't getting that kind of surgery, so you can stop being worried about it.

-- A2SG, fairness achieved.....

 

[Stopped_lurking]

I don’t know. It’s still controversial and people may be opposed to it. Treat people right and keep social issues from an academic, neutral perspective. Don’t bully or belittle anyone.

Just my opinion to keep everyone happy.

The US discussion about this is wild, one would come to believe that it is the rule not the exception with hormonal (both puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones) and/or surgical interventions. Where I live it is mainly therapy and providing a safe environment (some would probably characterize it as affirming). Puberty blockers are not routinely prescribed.

 

[RileyG]

Scientists disagree.

What Do We Mean By Sex and Gender?

As we pursue our work at Women's Health Research at Yale, it is particularly important to use language that captures the different concepts of sex and gender so

medicine.yale.edu

As I have pointed out a bunch of times already, minors aren't getting that kind of surgery, so you can stop being worried about it.

-- A2SG, fairness achieved.....

To appease an agenda.

How sad.

Godspeed

 

[RileyG]

The US discussion about this is wild, one would come to believe that it is the rule not the exception with hormonal (both puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones) and/or surgical interventions. Where I live it is mainly therapy and providing a safe environment (some would probably characterize it as affirming). Puberty blockers are not routinely prescribed.

That honestly sounds like a healthier alternative to me.

 

[A2SG]

To appease an agenda.

Nah, it's based on evidence. As all scientific theories are.

How sad.

Godspeed

You have every right to be sad that your opinions and facts aren't consistent.

-- A2SG, and you're certainly not alone in that....

 

[Hans Blaster]

Jazz Jennings (real name Jaron Bloshinsky) received sex change surgery at age 17.

If someone changes their name, particularly their legal name, the new name *is* their real name.

None of those names tell me anything about the gender of the person anyway, so I don't know why it matters to you.

 

[Larniavc]

Actually, it has happened in minors.

Jazz Jennings (real name Jaron Bloshinsky) received sex change surgery at age 17.

Now he is experiencing a binge eating disorder, multiple meltdowns, has no sexual function or arousal, and will never experience a normal sexual relationship because he was his parents “experiment.” His fertility, puberty, and health was exchanged for fame and fortune.

Shame on his parents!

This Jazz Jennings? The one going to Harvard?

Jazz Jennings - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Larniavc]

If you don't agree with using affirmative care as their therapeutic solution, what therapy should they be offered?

I’m not being rude. It’s simple biology. Men are not women or vice versa. The truth isn’t rude.

Actions speak louder than words.

Of course it’s rude. If you say something that upsets people you are the one being rude regardless of your feelings.

 

[BPPLEE]

Of course it’s rude. If you say something that upsets people you are the one being rude regardless of your feelings.

The truth hurts

 

[Larniavc]

Do they have a positive track record?

They do but I dunno why one would use them in this instance.

 

[Larniavc]

The truth hurts

This is why some Christians get a bad rep. They don’t seem to care about the feelings of other people and appear to go out of their way to insert themselves unsolicited into other people’s lives.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

They do but I dunno why one would use them in this instance.

I guess it is meant for making gender incongruence bearable in this case? It seems a bit misplaced since there are things that can be done to allievate it.

 

[Larniavc]

I guess it is meant for making gender incongruence bearable in this case? It seems a bit misplaced since there are things that can be done to allievate it.

What I mean is those therapies would not focus on these gender based issues.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

What I mean is those therapies would not focus on these gender based issues.

Ah, got it.

 

[rambot]

Stop putting out unreliable information. No one really knows the regret rate. Putting out garbage information only reinforces false belief systems.

Stop pretending information that disagree with you doesn't exist or is garbage information.
How many studies do you need to see?