CNN Dem Panelist Shocks Jennings with Major Admission on Lawfare Against Trump

[Always in His Presence]

"no! You don't unnerstand!" That's the Trump supporters response.

"You liberals just don't get it." We've seen the pattern of it for ever...and he says it loud. But "We" are attacking him. From the very very first indiscretion and all the dozens since.

All of it is true.
None of that is false.

It gets repeated ad nasueum because you folks keep being surprised that we are critical of trump.

It's because he has done awful things.


You're incredulous that people don't like him for doing those things. We're incredulous that people try to twist reality and his own words to pretend these events don't speak to who he is.


Seriously, I've asked this question half a dozen times and nobody has ever said one word in response:
What fruits of the spirit do we see coming from trump? Which ONE? Any? Forebearance? He CELEBRATES the opposite of that.
Kindness? He advocates for hte opposite.
Faithfulness?
Gentleness? Nah
Self-Control? I can't imagine less in control.
Goodness? Depends on how vague you're willing to be.
Love? Does his fidelity record reflect positively on this or negatively?
Joy? The only time I see him smile is when he's insulting someone or ...dancing...or MAAAYBE sometimes soaking in the adoration and worship of his particularly strong fans.

This style rebuttal would carry more weight (IMHO) if it did not come from a political viewpoint (not necessarily you specifically) that accepts and promotes killing of children in the womb - homosexuality - a President having sex in the White House while his wife slept upstairs - a President that swam nude in front of female Secret Service Agents and pawed little girls on national TV - . Do any of those facts reflect the fruit of the spirit you expose?

To claim a higher moral ground (IMHO) - you actually have to have a higher moral ground.

 

[rambot]

This style rebuttal would carry more weight (IMHO) if it did not come from a political viewpoint (not necessarily you specifically) that accepts and promotes killing of children in the womb - homosexuality - a President having sex in the White House while his wife slept upstairs - a President that swam nude in front of female Secret Service Agents and pawed little girls on national TV - . Do any of those facts reflect the fruit of the spirit you expose?

As I said one act alone does NOT mean that person wouldn't have that fruit; a mistake is a mistake. But one act alonve DEFINITELY does not mean that individual has NO fruits of the spirit.

Also, it seem strange; I was talking about an individual...and you seem to be referring...to an ENTIRE political view. Is your argument that if you took all the indiscressions from past presidents they are equal to what Trump did?

I mean that discussion isn't even relevant. Back in the day there ain't many people who didn't think Clinton wasn't a bit greasy or tease him about his women. Swimming nude in front of femal Secret Service Agents? That seems kind of like a weird complaint though I don't know the circumstances. Do you have some context for that? I mean; they are professional and they are doing a job. A doctor isn't a pervert for doing a breast exam; it's kind of, part of the job.

Am I supposed to believe that Secret Service Agents have never seen a nake president before? That seems...unrealistic.
From what I understand the story is that "he has a habit of swimming in his own pool naked". That alone seems 100% reasonable. Secret Service Agents being upset by that? Ok. I have found one news source that quotes this story with nothing even CLOSE to corroboration.
Do you have a better source with more information that "USNews & world report"?

To claim a higher moral ground (IMHO) - you actually have to have a higher moral ground.

I'm not claiming "moral high ground". I'm asking you to use discernment.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I'm not claiming "moral high ground". I'm asking you to use discernment.

I am - that is why I voted for Trump three times. He is head and shoulders above anyone else offered.

 

[rambot]

"Style" and three bucks will get you a cup of coffee.

And the airspeed of an unladen European swallow is 11m/second.

Do you think that reply actually resolves anything from your earlier claim?

I've heard him say nice things to people including women, offering lots of praise and encouragement, many times.

He literally called a woman a Piggy yesterday.
He cheated on all his wives.

I've heard him say nice thoughts too. It's not like people who don't have a spiritual fruit would be completely incapable of acting that way.

"I've heard him say nice things to people"

But if one is only tapped into an anti-trump hate media, they're never going to see any of that because of course those kinds of outlets would never show it.

No. It's actually a "big picture" thing. I will assume he can be nice to people. He can schmooze (he's a businessman after all) but that ultimately is self serving....though yes he can be nice.

MY point is that he does a lot of awful stuff. Awful stuff that someone who had the fruit would NOT do.

Nobody who has the fruit of kindness is EVER going to call a woman a piggy and not apologize or make it right.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I am - that is why I voted for Trump three times. He is head and shoulders above anyone else offered.

Man… that’s gotta be one of the saddest things I’ve ever heard.

 

[Clare73]

And the airspeed of an unladen European swallow is 11m/second.

Do you think that reply actually resolves anything from your earlier claim?

It goes to the gravitas of a claim regarding "style."

 

[Always in His Presence]

Man… that’s gotta be one of the saddest things I’ve ever heard.

I agree - it is one of the saddest statements on the condition of politics today. no one on the Left, nor the Right is offering anything better than our current President.

 

[rambot]

It goes to the gravitas of the claim. . .

The claim you didn't understand and what I tried to correct?

 

[rambot]

I agree - it is one of the saddest statements on the condition of politics today. no one on the Left, nor the Right is offering anything better than our current President.

It compounds the sadness that you think that.

And that is NOT a condemnation of the political parties.

 

[Always in His Presence]

It compounds the sadness that you think that.

Sorry - reality bites hard sometimes

And that is NOT a condemnation of the political parties.

yeah - - - it does.

Look at what's happening -

Besides the lawfare against a sitting President - still -

A sitting member of Congress gives her personal phone number out to a convicted child predator and receives text messages from that predator during a hearing.

If that is not sad - I don't know what is.

 

[rambot]

A sitting member of Congress gives her personal phone number out to a convicted child predator and receives text messages from that predator during a hearing.

If that is not sad - I don't know what is.

Excusing and voting for an accused pedophile and rapist.

That's pretty sad. AT least in my circles.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Excusing and voting for an accused pedophile and rapist.

But your 'circles' supports the killing of babies in the womb - embraces homosexuality and other perversions including promoting pedophilia as a lifestyle choice and normalizing gender dysphoria. Where is any of that in the fruits of the spirit?

That's pretty sad. AT least in my circles.

The reality is the President is the best choice we have been given. and that is a sad statement in a number of different ways.

 

[rambot]

But your 'circles' supports the killing of babies in the womb -

therr are no babies inside of women.
Those are called fetuses.

embraces homosexuality

We accept it. Let them.live

and other perversions including promoting pedophilia as a lifestyle

Lying. 3 people doing that means nothing and a reasonable person knows that.

You may think that these beliefs mean we are not trustworthy judges.
I feel the same way about those who vote for AND like Trump.

and normalizing gender dysphoria.

We normalize the recommended medical interventions b3csuse thus far, studies have shown theories efficacy despite rhem being distasteful.

Where is any of that in the fruits of the spirit?

Love
Kindness
Gentleness
Could be argued.



All this being said, we can now just agree Trump doesn't display any fruits. You've tries to avoid addressing that 3 times so I'll just assume we are on the same page on this moving forward.

 

[Always in His Presence]

All this being said, we can now just agree Trump doesn't display any fruits.

And neither does anyone on the left

You've tries to avoid addressing that 3 times so I'll just assume we are on the same page on this moving forward.

Not agreeing is not avoiding

Opposing viewpoints are part of Democracy in action. We are not on the same page. That reality you might just have to deal with.

 

[Clare73]

Excusing and voting for an accused pedophile and rapist.

And Jesus accepted and forgave a prostitute.. . ."holier than thou?"

Mt 6:14-15.

That's pretty sad. AT least in my circles.

But not in Jesus' circle. . .where it's not about the past, but about the present.

 

[rambot]

And neither does anyone on the left

What a stupid argument. Are you seriously arguing that nobody on the left has any spiritual fruits?

This is the distraction you make when you can't defend the rapist pedophile and list any of his spiritual fruits?

Not agreeing is not avoiding

It's tell you can't list any.

 

[Always in His Presence]

What a stupid argument. Are you seriously arguing that nobody on the left has any spiritual fruits?

This is the distraction you make when you can't defend the rapist pedophile and list any of his spiritual fruits?


It's tell you can't list any.

Open a thread on it and I'll join you-
This thread is about the shocking admitting of lawfare towards the President as a political tactic

One we all knew.