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As I said one act alone does NOT mean that person wouldn't have that fruit; a mistake is a mistake. But one act alonve DEFINITELY does not mean that individual has NO fruits of the spirit.This style rebuttal would carry more weight (IMHO) if it did not come from a political viewpoint (not necessarily you specifically) that accepts and promotes killing of children in the womb - homosexuality - a President having sex in the White House while his wife slept upstairs - a President that swam nude in front of female Secret Service Agents and pawed little girls on national TV - . Do any of those facts reflect the fruit of the spirit you expose?
Also, it seem strange; I was talking about an individual...and you seem to be referring...to an ENTIRE political view. Is your argument that if you took all the indiscressions from past presidents they are equal to what Trump did?
I mean that discussion isn't even relevant. Back in the day there ain't many people who didn't think Clinton wasn't a bit greasy or tease him about his women. Swimming nude in front of femal Secret Service Agents? That seems kind of like a weird complaint though I don't know the circumstances. Do you have some context for that? I mean; they are professional and they are doing a job. A doctor isn't a pervert for doing a breast exam; it's kind of, part of the job.
Am I supposed to believe that Secret Service Agents have never seen a nake president before? That seems...unrealistic.
From what I understand the story is that "he has a habit of swimming in his own pool naked". That alone seems 100% reasonable. Secret Service Agents being upset by that? Ok. I have found one news source that quotes this story with nothing even CLOSE to corroboration.
Do you have a better source with more information that "USNews & world report"?
I'm not claiming "moral high ground". I'm asking you to use discernment.To claim a higher moral ground (IMHO) - you actually have to have a higher moral ground.
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