Zions New Children

[keras]

Isaiah 49:1-26 Listen to Me you peoples far distant,...... But Zion [the Holy Land] said: The Lord has forsaken me, and my Lord has forgotten me…. The children which you will have, after you have lost the former ones, shall say to you: This place is too small for us, give us more space to dwell . Then you will say to yourself: Who has begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am alone and desolate, and where have they come from? Thus says the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders, for they shall not be ashamed that have faith in Me.

Hebrews 12:22-24 But you have come unto mount Zion......
We Christians are the latter children of Zion, Spiritually of the twelve tribes, the true Israelites of God, all the faithful Christian peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language. Revelation 5:9-10

 

[Delvianna]

Don't negate the promise to Abraham of the "seed" which will never die which means ethnic Jews (biological descendants of Abraham). We don't replace Israel, as Paul says, we gentiles are grafted in. The original branches are still there and will always be.

 

[keras]

Don't negate the promise to Abraham of the "seed" which will never die which means ethnic Jews (biological descendants of Abraham). We don't replace Israel, as Paul says, we gentiles are grafted in. The original branches are still there and will always be.

Jesus said: I know you are descended from Abraham....If you really were Abrahams children, you would act as Abraham did. John 8:37-40
Paul said: .....it is those with faith who share the Blessings with Abraham. Galatians 3:6-9 and - If you belong to Christ, then you are a child of Abraham

All the natural branches were cut off the Olive Tree of Jesus and only a few became Christians and got grafted back, then and still today. That remnant will join with their brethren, as a small minority of Gods peoples. The rest of the apostate Jews, are just the same as every other ungodly people and will share their fate. Isaiah 6:11-13, Luke 19:27

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Jesus said: I know you are descended from Abraham....If you really were Abrahams children, you would act as Abraham did. John 8:37-40
Paul said: .....it is those with faith who share the Blessings with Abraham. Galatians 3:6-9 and - If you belong to Christ, then you are a child of Abraham

All the natural branches were cut off the Olive Tree of Jesus and only a few became Christians and got grafted back, then and still today. That remnant will join with their brethren, as a small minority of Gods peoples. The rest of the apostate Jews, are just the same as every other ungodly people and will share their fate. Isaiah 6:11-13, Luke 19:27

I agree. The Seed of Abraham, according to Paul in Galatians 3, is singularly Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Believers in Christ, both Jews and Gentiles, become part of His spiritual seed and heirs of His promise, moving the focus from the physical nation to a spiritual inheritance through faith.
Thanks for sharing!

 

[eclipsenow]

Keras, according to your previous timetable that you said was inspired by the holy spirit in a vision in the Middle East in 2010 or something, we're only a few months off the abomination of desolation.

Where's the temple mate?

You assured me then you had absolute certainty.

You told me all the Amil theologians I read were like the blind Pharisees, which is basically akin to calling them unsaved which is against forum rules.

Absolute certainty.
Vision from the holy spirit.

But no temple?

All this stuff about you being on a special mission from God to explain Revelation to the modern church is absolute hogwash, and I have absolute certainty about that!

 

[timewerx]

Matthew 12:48-50
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

Orthodox Jews actually petitioned to ban parts of the Bible as they are deemed anti-Semitic! Even the Jews understood!

 

[keras]

You told me all the Amil theologians I read were like the blind Pharisees,

Jesus said that Gods secrets are hidden from the wise and learned - Matthew 11:25
This fact is proved by how 'expert theologians' fail to agree amongst themselves.

For anyone to be scathing and critical about things like a new Temple, the risk of opposing God's Word is far greater than for me to post Prophesies which do tell of a new Temple.

The truth of how the Christian peoples will be one nation in all of the Holy Land, is well attested in the Bible. The great Second Exodus of Gods peoples; Isaiah 11:11, Ezekiel 34:11-16, and Romans 9:24-26 reiterates Hosea's Prophecy of how the faithful peoples will be in the very place that ancient Israel was exiled from.

 

[Douggg]

For anyone to be scathing and critical about things like a new Temple, the risk of opposing God's Word is far greater than for me to post Prophesies which do tell of a new Temple.

It will be Jews (Judaism) who will build the next temple, not Christians.

The Temple Institute of Jerusalem - Learn About the Temple Institute

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templeinstitute.org

 

[Guojing]

I agree. The Seed of Abraham, according to Paul in Galatians 3, is singularly Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Believers in Christ, both Jews and Gentiles, become part of His spiritual seed and heirs of His promise, moving the focus from the physical nation to a spiritual inheritance through faith.
Thanks for sharing!

So which of the 12 tribes do we belong to, if the promise to the 12 was correct in Matthew 19:28?

 

[keras]

It will be Jews (Judaism) who will build the next temple, not Christians.

The Temple Institute of Jerusalem - Learn About the Temple Institute

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templeinstitute.org

Impossible!
It is forbidden for any follower of Judaism to step onto the ancient Temple platform. They might step where the Holy of Holies was.
The Jewish Temple Institute, is just a minor cult faction, without Israeli Government support, or any much other help. Their corner stone, got stolen!

It will be men from far away, Gods true Israelite people; Christians, who will come to build the new Temple in Jerusalem. Zechariah 6:15

So which of the 12 tribes do we belong to, if the promise to the 12 was correct in Matthew 19:28?

The Christian peoples, settled into all of the holy Land, will be assigned into a tribe, according to their characteristics, by Jesus; Revelation 14:1
Those characteristics, are defined by the meaning of the Hebrew names of the 12 sons of Jacob.

 

[Douggg]

Impossible!
It is forbidden for any follower of Judaism to step onto the ancient Temple platform. They might step where the Holy of Holies was.
The Jewish Temple Institute, is just a minor cult faction, without Israeli Government support, or any much other help. Their corner stone, got stolen!

It will be men from far away, Gods true Israelite people; Christians, who will come to build the new Temple in Jerusalem. Zechariah 6:15

The Jews will rebuild a temple on the temple mount following the Gog/Magog attack on Israel event.

keras, Gog's army will be destroyed on the mountains of Israel . Not a Christian nation named Beulah in your theory.

Ezekiel 39
2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

 

[keras]

The Great Promises of God to His People:
Ezekiel 28:25-26 The Lord God says: When I gather the House of Israel from the nations among whom they are now scattered and I have been reverenced by them, as the nations will see, then they will live in their heritage, all of the Holy Land that I promised to My servant Jacob.
They will have security there, building houses and planting vineyards, yes, they will dwell in confidence and safety, when I have executed My judgements upon all their contemptuous neighbours*. They will no longer have to fear any threats from ungodly peoples around them and they will know that I am the Lord their God. KJV, CJB, REB.
*Jeremiah 12:14-16 tells of the demise of the evil neghbors AND of Judah.

This short prophecy encapsulates the truth of what every righteous Christian can expect for their future. Sadly, not many can see this future, because of beliefs in false teachings and inability to discern Gods ultimate plan for humankind correctly.

We know from New Testament teaching that Christian peoples now belong to the House of Israel, the people that Jesus came to save. Matthew 15:24
Whether they are true descendants of Jacob or not. But in order for God’s promises to the Patriarchs to be fulfilled, the majority, now ‘scattered among the nations’, WILL, in fact, be their descendants. Only God knows who they all are. Amos 9:9

All of the Lord’s righteous Christian peoples will be gathered soon after ‘a Day of cloud and darkness’, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Ezekiel 20:34-38. That will be the much prophesied and well described - ‘Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath’, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster of fire from the sun, Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7, that will destroy His enemies, Isaiah 66:15-16, clearing and cleansing the entire Holy Land area; Zephaniah 1:14-18 and enabling God’s people to ‘display His glory for all the nations to see’, Ezekiel 39:27, to be fulfilled.
Proving that all this will happen before the Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign.

The people of the new nation of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, having passed through the ‘great ordeal’ of the Day of wrath, Luke 21:35, Revelation 7:1-14, will select their own leaders, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11, they will build a new Temple, Zechariah 6:15, Haggai 2:6-9, they will send out 144,000 missionaries to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus, and after all that is prophesied before the Return takes place, it is them who say: ‘Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord’!

 

[keras]

The Jews will rebuild a temple on the temple mount following the Gog/Magog attack on Israel event.

keras, Gog's army will be destroyed on the mountains of Israel . Not a Christian nation named Beulah in your theory.

You avoid the fact that religious Jews cannot step on the Temple Mount;
The 'Mountains of Israel" refers to the Land, not the people; Isaiah 62:1-5

Gods peoples who will inherit the Holy Land and build the Temple, will all be faithful believers. Isaiah 51:1-2, Isaiah 56:6-8

 

[Douggg]

You avoid the fact that religious Jews cannot step on the Temple Mount;
The 'Mountains of Israel" refers to the Land, not the people; Isaiah 62:1-5

Gods peoples who will inherit the Holy Land and build the Temple, will all be faithful believers. Isaiah 51:1-2, Isaiah 56:6-8

Christians don't do animal sacrifices. The Antichrist is going to stop the animal sacrifices in the middle part of the seven years of Daniel 9:27.

It is going to be the Jews who are gong to be doing the animal sacrifices.

 

[Douggg]

You avoid the fact that religious Jews cannot step on the Temple Mount;

keras, religious Jews can walk on the Temple Mount - but not freely. They are restricted to follow the Israelis police who lead their walk as visitors. They are not allowed to go to the Dome of the Rock platform area as that is restricted by the Jerusalem Waqf to only muslims. The Dome of the Rock was built over the where the former temple sanctuary building was.

Here is a video of Jews on the temple mount.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

So which of the 12 tribes do we belong to, if the promise to the 12 was correct in Matthew 19:28?

This tribe:
John 10:16
Jesus said, "And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one Shepherd."

 

[Lost4words]

Keras, you have got it all wrong. Your 'interpretation' of scripture is extremely wide of the mark....