Is engineering a ‘super’ human being a good idea?

[johansen]

The only statistically valid control groups were in the actual testing. However...
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Who go against odds like that?

95% of the people who died already left the gene pool

Its irrelevant.

The covid shot cost my wifes insurance company about 50 grand, when she spent 4 days in a hospital afterwards.
4 days is how long it took them to realize her problems were an allergic reaction to the vaccine, that took 3 days to start. They didnt want to imagine it was that simple.

 

[Fervent]

Interesting.

Lets say they are successful at the whole lot of it and 40 years from now there are a bunch of folks wandering around who are better looking, smarter, faster, stronger and healthier that us normal folk.

Naturally, the "supers" will rise to the top. They'll probably have a head start anyway because they'll mostly come from well off families who could afford the treatments.

What do the "supers" that are now running the show do with the rest of us mere "normals" ?

That likely answers to that question make me think its a bad idea.

Have you seen Gattaca? Cause you've pretty much hit on the plot.

 

[Fervent]

Its a simple mathematics problem..

Whatever makes the most money

Do you suppose they'll recall the "merchandise" or just phase them out gradually?

 

[The Barbarian]

Who would go against odds like that?

Its irrelevant.

Not to the people who took the vaccine and survived at rate 10X the unvaccinated.

The covid shot cost my wifes insurance company about 50 grand, when she spent 4 days in a hospital afterwards.
4 days is how long it took them to realize her problems were an allergic reaction to the vaccine, that took 3 days to start.

Data says severe allergic reactions are about 5 per million doses. Which is similar to other vaccines. I managed an immunology clinic in the AF, and It happened rarely. Most commonly, it happened with desensitizing treatments, which understandably were far more likely to trigger release of IgE and subsequent allergic reactions.

 

[johansen]

Data says severe allergic reactions are about 5 per million doses. Which is similar to other vaccines. I managed an immunology clinic in the AF, and It happened rarely. Most commonly, it happened with desensitizing treatments, which understandably were far more likely to trigger release of IgE and subsequent allergic reactions.

you can support the system all you want but there is systemic rejection of people's concerns due to the prevailing notion that vaccines were safe. as such perhaps 90% of various ills that came in many cases months later were swept under the rug. we now have entire countries disagreeing with each other over if the vaccine is safe for pregnant persons lol. sorry, women.

did you read this study?

Observed-to-Expected Fetal Losses Following mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination in Early Pregnancy

Background The clinical trials used to approve COVID-19 vaccines excluded pregnant women, and existing safety assessments of COVID-19 vaccination, particularly during early stages of pregnancy, are limited to observational studies prone to various types of potential bias, including healthy...

www.medrxiv.org

50% increase in actual miss carriage rate. from 9 to 13 out of 100.

now here is the thing...

those miscarriages and lack of those specific persons born on earth may appear to increase the overall state of health of the whole earth, on a short term timeline.

this is where the "good" that is done by vaccines becomes irrelevant as well on a long enough time line.
you need to think 40,000 years from now
what impact will there be of vaccinated the whole world against a small strain of a certain type of corona viruses?

you won't be there to witness it.

but you will be judged later.

 

[Fervent]

you can support the system all you want but there is systemic rejection of people's concerns due to the prevailing notion that vaccines were safe. as such perhaps 90% of various ills that came in many cases months later were swept under the rug. we now have entire countries disagreeing with each other over if the vaccine is safe for pregnant persons lol. sorry, women.

did you read this study?

Observed-to-Expected Fetal Losses Following mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination in Early Pregnancy

Background The clinical trials used to approve COVID-19 vaccines excluded pregnant women, and existing safety assessments of COVID-19 vaccination, particularly during early stages of pregnancy, are limited to observational studies prone to various types of potential bias, including healthy...

www.medrxiv.org

50% increase in actual miss carriage rate. from 9 to 13 out of 100.

now here is the thing...

those miscarriages and lack of those specific persons born on earth may appear to increase the overall state of health of the whole earth, on a short term timeline.

this is where the "good" that is done by vaccines becomes irrelevant as well on a long enough time line.
you need to think 40,000 years from now
what impact will there be of vaccinated the whole world against a small strain of a certain type of corona viruses?

you won't be there to witness it.

but you will be judged later.

someone's gotta prove the old adage right, "There are lies, d**ed lies, and statistics." It really seems like you're reaching for any cherry picked data to claim some sort of harm, rather than looking at the available data and coming to an informed conclusion.

 

[johansen]

someone's gotta prove the old adage right, "There are lies, d**ed lies, and statistics." It really seems like you're reaching for any cherry picked data to claim some sort of harm, rather than looking at the available data and coming to an informed conclusion.

you should read it.

 

[Fervent]

you should read it.

I'm not disputing the study, but your misappropriation of it.

 

[johansen]

I'm not disputing the study, but your misappropriation of it.

misscarriage rate go up, covid survival rate go up. .. mission accomplished!

you forget.. the end result.

 

[Fervent]

misscarriage rate go up, covid survival rate go up. .. mission accomplished!

you forget.. the end result.

Yeah, its called risk assessment. Nothing is entirely safe, and a minor increase in actual miscarriage events(50% sure sounds a lot worse than 4 in 100) is an understandable risk, just means pregnant women should be advised of the increase in risk to their pregnancy.

 

[johansen]

Yeah, its called risk assessment. Nothing is entirely safe, and a minor increase in actual miscarriage events(50% sure sounds a lot worse than 4 in 100) is an understandable risk, just means pregnant women should be advised of the increase in risk to their pregnancy.

yes some reported that study as a 4% increase in misscarriage when in reality it was a 50% increase from actual 9 to 13 out of 100 pregnancies.

some of the reporting was worded that way intentionally to make it seem like it wasn't a big increase.

13 misscarriages at week 9 instead of 9 out of 100 is a big increase.

also if you read the paper you'll find that it takes about 4 weeks for the misscariage to happen.

thus, it couldn't have been the vaccine in the minds of most people like yourself.

 

[Fervent]

yes some reported that study as a 4% increase in misscarriage when in reality it was a 50% increase from actual 9 to 13 out of 100 pregnancies.

Depends on how we're understanding the percentage, as 4 out of 100 is 4%.

some of the reporting was worded that way intentionally to make it seem like it wasn't a big increase.

It's worth looking at, but it's a moderate risk at best.

13 misscarriages at week 9 instead of 9 out of 100 is a big increase.

compared to...?

 

[The Barbarian]

Data says severe allergic reactions are about 5 per million doses. Which is similar to other vaccines. I managed an immunology clinic in the AF, and It happened rarely. Most commonly, it happened with desensitizing treatments, which understandably were far more likely to trigger release of IgE and subsequent allergic reactions.

you can support the system all you want

You can deny the evidence all you want. The funny thing about reality is, it doesn't care what we think.

but there is systemic rejection of people's concerns due to the prevailing notion that vaccines were safe.

Evidence, again. BTW, nearly a half-century ago, when I was studying immunology, they had good data on the risks of immunizations for different vaccines. When I took the clinic, I set up some controls over just that issue. There are people at higher risk, and we go physicians to look at those people before allowing them immunizations.

perhaps 90% of various ills that came in many cases months later were swept under the rug.

Sounds awful. I'm sure you have checkable data to support that. Show us.

50% increase in actual miss carriage rate. from 9 to 13 out of 100.

That's more like 44%, but a small sample size probably makes such a distinction problematic.

More than 30,000 pregnant women have been reported to the CDC vaccine safety monitoring program (v-safe) as of February 16, 2021. The v-safe prenancy registry includes >1,800 participants as of February 19, 2021 and includes 275 completed pregnancies and 232 live births. Participants are being tracked for miscarriage and still birth, pregnancy complications, maternal intensive care unit admission, adverse birth outcomes, neonatal death, infant hospitalizations, and birth defects. To date, pregnancy outcomes are comparable to background rates and “no unexpected pregnancy or infant outcomes have been observed related to COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy.” An infographic comparing obstetric and perinatal morbidity among mRNA COVID-19 vaccine recipients compared to background rates among pregnant mothers that did not receive the vaccine are shown in [Fig. 2].[20]

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[johansen]

That's more like 44%, but a small sample size probably makes such a distinction problematic.

215,000 women is not a small sample size.

as for if it matters at all, that's for the insurance companies to determine, by which we all live today.

again, unforeseen consequences.

too small for you to consider in this generation. which is your right to make that judgement.