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Bishop of Ebbsfleet - who leads the complimentarian parishes in the C of E - Statement on new AOC . Posting just in case anyone who is interested comes by here. I am glad he is expressing some respect and saying that he can talk to Sarah Mullally, that just seems better to me than a call to schism would.
 
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Anyone surprised by this?
No. I marked Dame Mullaly as the insider choice since she was elevated to the bishopric of London.

On this side of the pond, every Anglican sedevacantist has popped out of the woodwork to issue a written statement today. None of them were in communion with Canterbury anyway.
 
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No. I marked Dame Mullaly as the insider choice since she was elevated to the bishopric of London.

On this side of the pond, every Anglican sedevacantist has popped out of the woodwork to issue a written statement today. None of them were in communion with Canterbury anyway.
If they aren't in communion with Canterbury, why would they care? That's a little petty, imo.
 
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Bishop of Ebbsfleet - who leads the complimentarian parishes in the C of E - Statement on new AOC . Posting just in case anyone who is interested comes by here. I am glad he is expressing some respect and saying that he can talk to Sarah Mullally, that just seems better to me than a call to schism would.

What a gracious statement from the bishop!
 
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Just a friendly reminder that this is a denomination specific area. It is only meant to be used by those who actually follow a specific denomination. In this particular case, it is Anglican.
 
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Anyone surprised by this?
Yes, but not completely.

I thought they would wait until the church were more united over the matter of women in leadership before a woman became AoC, or that they would create a new role for someone who would have some of the AoC's responsibilities, so that the position as it is was shared between two people. Then they could have made one of the two a man and those who are under the juristiction of the Bishop of Ebbsfleet (my post no 4 above) could have just accepted the male one.
 
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every Anglican sedevacantist has popped out of the woodwork to issue a written statement today. None of them were in communion with Canterbury anyway.
Sorry, I am confused as to what an Anglican sedevacantist is,? I tried an internet search, but my computer thinks it is a Catholic thing too. :scratch:
 
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Sorry, I am confused as to what an Anglican sedevacantist is,? I tried an internet search, but my computer thinks it is a Catholic thing too. :scratch:
A Catholic sedevacantist argues that St. Peter's chair has been vacant since _____ insert Pope of your choice, usually due to some progressive tendencies of the successor. Extending the principle to Anglicanism, there are folks arguing that the See of Canterbury is vacant and the selection of Dame Mullaly is null and void. A few of these cranks are doing revisionist history and arguing there hasn't been a 'real' Archbishop of Canterbury since Michael Ramsey or maybe Geoffrey Fisher.
 
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A Catholic sedevacantist argues that St. Peter's chair has been vacant since _____ insert Pope of your choice, usually due to some progressive tendencies of the successor. Extending the principle to Anglicanism, there are folks arguing that the See of Canterbury is vacant and the selection of Dame Mullaly is null and void. A few of these cranks are doing revisionist history and arguing there hasn't been a 'real' Archbishop of Canterbury since Michael Ramsey or maybe Geoffrey Fisher.
Thank you. Out of interest, do these folks have a church authority over them? Are they in ACNA or somewhere? Or are they just standing on a chair in the park shouting about it?
 
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“Together we will be responsive to the prayer of Jesus that we ‘may all be one’ (John 17:21) and seek to develop the bonds of friendship and shared mission between the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church.” from Cardinal Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Westminster and President of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales, - Cardinal welcomes Archbishop-designate Sarah Mullally as new Archbishop of Canterbury - Catholic Bishops' Conference

Thank you RC Bishops for being so respectful.
 
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Out of interest, do these folks have a church authority over them? Are they in ACNA or somewhere?
Some ACNA priests and bishops; some Continuing Anglican bishops. Most of the ACNA folks who are worked up over this are also putting forward the idea that GAFCON is now the 'real' Anglican Communion. I understand that there are rules to these matters and the wishes of a few overly political Americans do not determine how the world works.
 
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The hyperventilating I'm seeing online about, there's the end of hope for unity (amongst ourselves, with Rome, with Orthodoxy, whatever) is seriously annoying me. None of those folks wanted unity anyway. This doesn't change that. It just says, we're not going to refuse to put our convictions into practice out of fear of other people's bad behaviour.
 
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The hyperventilating I'm seeing online about, there's the end of hope for unity (amongst ourselves, with Rome, with Orthodoxy, whatever) is seriously annoying me. None of those folks wanted unity anyway. This doesn't change that. It just says, we're not going to refuse to put our convictions into practice out of fear of other people's bad behaviour.
Thinking about this point, for any Anglicans of any kind who believe unity matters most, presuming they live some place where such freedom exists, they could surely just leave us for either Rome or the East? Of course, there is not much chance of those two resolving their differences anytime soon.

If it is representatives of the RC or EO churches saying these things, then yes, they should know we left centuries ago and we did not just cause the division last Friday. :scratch:
 
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Well there goes the church state link. The Anglican church may well have reached an impasse with those Anglicans who hold a high view of scripture and are connected to the global-historic ecumenical consensus of what constitutes a church. Sarah Mullally is a feminist, liberal intellectual lightweight. She favors abortion, same-sex marriage and most conservative elements of the church are grieved by this choice. Given that British governance has degenerated to the extent that it considered this a viable choice, that it would appoint a woke woman whose spirituality is questionable, given her conclusions, to this revered office, it is time end the link between church and state. Keep freedom of religion to allow true Christian worship elsewhere, but Anglicanism has now had its day.

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Well there goes the church state link. The Anglican church no longer represents the true church. Sarah Mullally is a dyslexic, feminist, liberal intellectual lightweight. She favors abortion, same-sex marriage and most conservative elements of the church are grieved by this choice. Given that British governance has degenerated to the extent that it considered this a viable choice, that it would appoint a weak woman whose spirituality is a joke to this revered office, it is time end the link between church and state. Keep freedom of religion to allow true Christian worship elsewhere, but Anglicanism has now had its day.
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