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[Bradskii]

Does it matter to the point?

Seeing as you said it was an opportunity for violence, then yes. It does matter. Were you dissapointed that there was none?

 

[Bradskii]

So basically the march was whiny white geriatric kids who are angry that things are not going their way?

And I think it's terrible that it ended in violence.

 

[Bradskii]

And I think it's terrible that it ended in violence.

Sorry. Sorry, my bad. I thought you were talking about the Capitol...

 

[A2SG]

So it is melodramatic group therapy against an imaginary threat. In other words, it is more democrat political kabuki theater.

That's one way to look at it. Or, from a different point of view, it could be seen as a large gathering of people who wish to voice their concerns about authoritarianism and democracy. That's the cool thing about the US, different points of view exist and all are free to express them.

Oh. For years, we have ALL heard the screeching and gnashing of teeth as if we were watching a sea of spoiled children who were never told "no" in their entire lives. This was just another childish outburst and people watched with disgust just as if they had seen a child throwing store merchandise at his mother because she refused to buy him a bar of chocolate.

I've heard similar things said about the people who stormed the Capitol on January 6 and were subsequently arrested for their crimes (and later pardoned by the one who, some claim, had nothing whatsoever to do with initiating that). As I say, different points of view.

Though, I can't help but notice you didn't follow up on your claim that the rally was "an opportunity for antifa to cause more political violence." Is that an acknowledgement that such a thing did not happen?

-- A2SG, guess I can take it as such, since no evidence to the contrary has been given....

 

[A2SG]

I mean, technically you are right. But usually protests involve actual decisions and actionable policies. Like, "Vote no on this legislation," or "release this prisoner." But what was the message from the rally? Many people in the rally did not even know. There is so much video footage of people going through a hard software reboot because they were asked simple questions like, "If Trump is a fascist dictator, how are you able to protest right now?"

That's easy to answer: because he isn't one. But that doesn't mean he isn't trying to act as if he is one. And that's what people are protesting.

-- A2SG, sorry you seem to have missed that.....

 

[A2SG]

The message is that a working democracy by way of our Constitutional Republuc bothers them. The march was funded by communists so it makes sense that they don't prefer our system of government.

They are protesting the election. They're mad they didn't win. Angry that law is being enforced.

Yep, that's a very good assessment of the events that occurred on January 6.

-- A2SG, straight and to the point....

 

[Hazelelponi]

Yep, that's a very good assessment of the events that occurred on January 6.

-- A2SG, straight and to the point....

January 6 occurred after the biggest censorship of American citizens by the US government and tech companies such that America - even the world - has never seen. The level was massive scale censorship by the government to favor the Dem Candidate.
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When you need to deprive - and I mean deprive - conservatives of their constitutional right to engage in political discourse - censoring actual citizens in every possible way a person can be censored in our modern day, then you lost before you began.

The sheer volume of advertising costs - because make no mistakes it's billions in advertising when tech companies are working as the mouth pieces of the Democratic party and censorsing everything a conservative might say so people only hear one side before an election...

That was billions of dollars worth of in kind campaign contributions and free advertising not given to the other side of the aisle.

They violated every law in every possible way in order to win the election.

That's a stolen election, stolen from the American people and I'm still mad I was censored and cancelled. So no.... Nothing like J6.

No Republican did that. No, it was Democrats depriving us of our right to free speech in an election. The right side of the aisle still has every right to be angry because the censorship of American citizens is still largely unaddressed.

That party is crooked to the bone and has zero respect for the constitution or our rights - and they have no issues misusing the power of the US government to gain more power.

People on Jan 6 were coming off the great censorship campaign, not able to trust media anymore and had just watched months of left wing violence and riots and took those frustrations to the feet of the People's House.

It wasn't right that they got out of hand, but for the amount of frustration there was, it was at least understandable and limited to one out of hand protest rather than the hundreds of violent ones we had just spent the summer watching destroy American cities brought to us by the left.

People were actually disenfranchised. They just woke up one day as second class citizens in America, and while the world maluged we conservatives, we didn't even have the right to self defense because we were censored.

 

[A2SG]

January 6 occurred after the biggest censorship of American citizens by the US government and tech companies such that America - even the world - has never seen. The level was massive scale censorship by the government to favor the Dem Candidate.
.
When you need to deprive - and I mean deprive - conservatives of their constitutional right to engage in political discourse - censoring actual citizens in every possible way a person can be censored in our modern day, then you lost before you began.

The sheer volume of advertising costs - because make no mistakes it's billions in advertising when tech companies are working as the mouth pieces of the Democratic party and censorsing everything a conservative might say so people only hear one side before an election...

That was billions of dollars worth of in kind campaign contributions and free advertising not given to the other side of the aisle.

They violated every law in every possible way in order to win the election.

That's a stolen election, stolen from the American people and I'm still mad I was censored and cancelled. So no.... Nothing like J6.

No Republican did that. No, it was Democrats depriving us of our right to free speech in an election. The right side of the aisle still has every right to be angry because the censorship of American citizens is still largely unaddressed.

That arty is crooked and has zero respect for the constitution or our rights - and they have no issues missing the power of the US government to gain power.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....we've heard all the conspiracy theories, no need to rehash them again.

-- A2SG, they weren't credible to begin with, and they've not gotten any better over time....

 

[Hazelelponi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah....we've heard all the conspiracy theories, no need to rehash them again.

-- A2SG, they weren't credible to begin with, and they've not gotten any better over time....

It's not conspiracy theories - we actually lived through it. It if weren't for Elon Musk and Trump and the Republicans fighting we would still be cancelled. "Wrong think" is a crime in the Democrats economy and they are happy to make it legal like if they can.

Besides, all the tech companies have now admitted censorship by the US government, ie, they were being asked by the US government to censor conservatives.

I'm waiting now for redress of grievances

 

[A2SG]

It's not conspiracy theories - we actually lived through it. It if weren't for Elon Musk and Trump and the Republicans fighting we would still be cancelled. "Wrong think" is a crime in the Democrats economy and they are happy to make it legal like if they can.

Besides, all the tech companies have now admitted censorship by the US government, ie, they were being asked by the US government to censor conservatives.

I'm waiting now for redress of grievances

It always amazes me how, in the minds of MAGA and some republicans, the Democratic party can go from a Bond level villainous organization so perfectly organized and ruthlessly efficient as to steal an entire election without leaving behind a single clue to bumbling, feckless Keystone Kops who are a joke with no support whatsoever, all in the space of a single conversation.

Come on, guys, pick a lane!

-- A2SG, and, of course, of course, Trump is the country's savior.....but Elon who?

 

[Hazelelponi]

All the politics is bad, bad, bad, all sides not telling truth.
The powers on earth (men) that control the politics (and more) remain hidden, and if someone gets popular enough exposing the ones controlling things, they are silenced, shunned, arrested, gagged, put to death, and this is nothing new.

There are bad actors in our government, but because of that it makes it duty upon us to seek just actions and fight against the wrong.

As citizens when things are wrong we have a duty to, within the confines of the law - make them right.

There will always be evil all around, we aren't perfect - none of us are, this is a fallen world - but in our weakness we are strong so long as Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Head of us.

Jesus says if we have faith we can move mountains, this is the mountain but it doesn't need to move so much as it needs to cast off a few demons.

I liken it to the parable where the later state of the man was worse than his initial state because he invited in demons...

We are in that later state but it can be saved if we can clean house again. So I'm just praying for the faith that can cast out demons and the ability to cast them.

If it be God's will, Nineveh will last another 300 years. She just needs to repent.

 

[Yarddog]

Name something the protest accomplished?

It showed that over 7 million Americans could peacefully exercise their Constitutional right to protest a corrupt administration. It showed the ignorance of Republicans who called these protests "hate America" protests.

 

[7thKeeper]

It is millions of people screeching because their mommy didnt buy them a chocolate bar. Again, nothing new.

Wait a minute, so which one are they? People (children I assume based on what you wrote) upset about a chocolate bar or..

Who is going to strike? Most of the people protesting were retired white people.

Retired white people? Those people have money for a chocolate bar.

Or you just trying to be insulting because you don't like them for some reason?

 

[7thKeeper]

The message is that a working democracy by way of our Constitutional Republuc bothers them. The march was funded by communists so it makes sense that they don't prefer our system of government.

You know an American conservative has lost the arguement when they start talking about them commies...

 

[Nithavela]

It always amazes me how, in the minds of MAGA and some republicans, the Democratic party can go from a Bond level villainous organization so perfectly organized and ruthlessly efficient as to steal an entire election without leaving behind a single clue to bumbling, feckless Keystone Kops who are a joke with no support whatsoever, all in the space of a single conversation.

Come on, guys, pick a lane!

-- A2SG, and, of course, of course, Trump is the country's savior.....but Elon who?

Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism

Creative Commons image by Rob Bogaerts, via the National Archives in Holland One of the key questions facing both journalists and loyal oppositions these days is how do we stay honest as euphemisms and trivializations take over the discourse?

www.openculture.com

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

 

[A2SG]

Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism

Creative Commons image by Rob Bogaerts, via the National Archives in Holland One of the key questions facing both journalists and loyal oppositions these days is how do we stay honest as euphemisms and trivializations take over the discourse?

www.openculture.com

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

Yup, right out of the playbook.

Same with President Biden, he went from the mastermind of a criminal empire to a doddering, senile old fool and back again. Sometimes, in the same sentence.

-- A2SG, at least with Trump, you know what you're gonna get: all fraud, all the time....

 

[Hazelelponi]

You know an American conservative has lost the arguement when they start talking about them commies...

Yet they have extrajudicially deprived the citizenry of our rights we are guaranteed by law and then accuse the president of trying to be king, it's absurd from all who cheered COVID lockdowns, supported forced vaccinations, the supporters of the arrest of pastors for trying to gather in religious worship, and the supporters of mass censorship and the deplatforming of conservative voices.

Yet our democratically elected president is the one accused.

It's ridiculous, and it's well funded and coordinated. Call it what you like.

We just want our laws enforced and the government respected and doing its job. You know, as opposed to defying federal law and starting a war on American soil instead of respecting our laws enough to submit to them.

 

[Bradskii]

January 6...

Yeah, we know. You want to excuse what happened.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The right is going to have a big midterm problem on their hands if they’ve now lost the retired white people community.

Only if they take the time to vote instead of watching Matlock reruns.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

The no kings protests were great to see but if people are really serious we need a nationwide general strike now. Don’t let the momentum fizzle out or wait to see what happens in the midterms.

What is the purpose of a general strike, and what potential effects can it have beyond disruption and economic impact? In some developing countries, I have seen that general strikes sometimes result in the ruling party resigning or being compelled to step down.

Such actions do not align with American principles. Any transfer of power between parties MUST be through the democratic process at the ballot box.

I support citizens organizing, protesting, and expressing their dissatisfaction with the White House and Congress. I encourage civic engagement and advocacy ahead of the next election. While last week's protest was impressive, it is essential to channel that energy into electoral processes to achieve change in Congress. I hope that at least one chamber of Congress transitions to Democratic control to provide a check on the current administration's power. However, any shift in power must occur through democratic means, not through a general strike.

The NO King protest was impressive last week, just as it had been during the summer and spring. Democrats should repeat their 2018 strategy by encouraging young people, women, and American veterans to run in the midterms and use No-King protester energy to win mid-term.