Why Does the Bible Tell Us to Behave In Ways We Can’t? How Can Anyone Be Saved?

[Mercy Shown]

I’ve often wondered why the Bible gives us so many commands that seem impossible to follow — things like be holy, love your enemies, be perfect, and do not sin. If no one can actually live up to that standard, how can anyone possibly be saved? I want to be perfect, God' wants me to be perfect, so why am I not perfect?

As I’ve thought and prayed about it, I’ve come to see that the commands themselves aren’t meant to show how strong we are, but how much we need God. In Romans 3:20, Paul says, “Through the law comes knowledge of sin.” God’s law works like a mirror — it shows us His holiness and reveals how far we fall short. But a mirror can’t clean you; it can only show you what’s wrong. The law exposes our need, but it doesn’t provide the cure.

When the disciples asked Jesus, “Who then can be saved?” He answered, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:25–26). The impossibility of keeping God’s commands is meant to drive us away from self-reliance and toward dependence on Him. God never expected us to fix ourselves; He intended for us to turn to the One who could.

That’s where Christ comes in. Romans 8:3–4 explains that “what the law could not do, because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son.” Jesus didn’t just die to take away our sins; He also lived the perfect life we could never live. Through faith, His obedience becomes our righteousness.

In the end, salvation isn’t about performing well enough — it’s about trusting the One who did. Ephesians 2:8–9 says it best: “By grace you have been saved through faith... not of works, so that no one may boast.” God’s impossible commands point us to the only possible Savior. Once we belong to Christ, those same commands are no longer heavy burdens. Instead, they become invitations to live out His life within us through the power of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 2:20).

I fact, it is not primarily obedience God is seeking in us. He is seeking relationship. Just as the shepheard who sought the one in 99 God seeks us even while we are wandering away fron him. Maybe my obsession with being perfect has suplanted my relatiosnship with God.

 

[bling]

I agree with most of what you point out, but if you can keep from quenching the Holy Spirit for an hour can you also keep from sinning for that hour?
If we look at it from the perspective of not: "I" being perfect, but the Spirit within in me, allowed to perfectly do what He can do perfectly. You can observe His perfection.
Trying to keep from sinning never works, but allowing the Spirit to freely work within you can avoid any sinning (you do not have time to sin).

I worked with sincere Christians in prison and for them to show any sign to the snitches constantly watching them, anything that might be considered less than what Christ would say or do, resulted in that information being told to the bulls (gang leaders). The Gang leaders would take this weakness as an opportunity to make the Christian prisoner his slave (often a sex slave), since the Christian might not be willing to be beaten to death (die for the cause). Killing the Christians has no value and making him a martyr can get the bull in trouble, since others might speak up for a hero.

 

[Mercy Shown]

I agree with most of what you point out, but if you can keep from quenching the Holy Spirit for an hour can you also keep from sinning for that hour?
If we look at it from the perspective of not: "I" being perfect, but the Spirit within in me, allowed to perfectly do what He can do perfectly. You can observe His perfection.
Trying to keep from sinning never works, but allowing the Spirit to freely work within you can avoid any sinning (you do not have time to sin).

I worked with sincere Christians in prison and for them to show any sign to the snitches constantly watching them, anything that might be considered less than what Christ would say or do, resulted in that information being told to the bulls (gang leaders). The Gang leaders would take this weakness as an opportunity to make the Christian prisoner his slave (often a sex slave), since the Christian might not be willing to be beaten to death (die for the cause). Killing the Christians has no value and making him a martyr can get the bull in trouble, since others might speak up for a hero.

I agree, but I know of no person who is perfect in their behaviour. Perhaps there is such a living person on the earth since I have not met every living person. I assume you do not claim perfection either so that leaves us dependent upon Christ and his perfection while ever growing more and more like Christ by the author and finisher of our faith. Does this make sense?

 

[BobRyan]

I’ve often wondered why the Bible gives us so many commands that seem impossible to follow — things like be holy, love your enemies, be perfect, and do not sin. If no one can actually live up to that standard, how can anyone possibly be saved? I want to be perfect, God' wants me to be perfect, so why am I not perfect?

As I’ve thought and prayed about it, I’ve come to see that the commands themselves aren’t meant to show how strong we are, but how much we need God. In Romans 3:20, Paul says, “Through the law comes knowledge of sin.” God’s law works like a mirror — it shows us His holiness and reveals how far we fall short. But a mirror can’t clean you; it can only show you what’s wrong. The law exposes our need, but it doesn’t provide the cure.

When the disciples asked Jesus, “Who then can be saved?” He answered, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:25–26). The impossibility of keeping God’s commands is meant to drive us away from self-reliance and toward dependence on Him. God never expected us to fix ourselves; He intended for us to turn to the One who could.

That’s where Christ comes in. Romans 8:3–4 explains that “what the law could not do, because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son.” Jesus didn’t just die to take away our sins; He also lived the perfect life we could never live. Through faith, His obedience becomes our righteousness.

In the end, salvation isn’t about performing well enough — it’s about trusting the One who did. Ephesians 2:8–9 says it best: “By grace you have been saved through faith... not of works, so that no one may boast.” God’s impossible commands point us to the only possible Savior. Once we belong to Christ, those same commands are no longer heavy burdens. Instead, they become invitations to live out His life within us through the power of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 2:20).

I fact, it is not primarily obedience God is seeking in us. He is seeking relationship. Just as the shepheard who sought the one in 99 God seeks us even while we are wandering away fron him. Maybe my obsession with being perfect has suplanted my relatiosnship with God.

1 John 2:1 "these things I write to you that you sin not! But IF anyone sins we have an Advocate with the Father
'
Jesus said "Go and SIN NO more" John 5;14, John 8:11

Rom 8 explains why some folks can't obey.
8:3 ,,,He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,

Without the Holy Spirit, without a repentant prayerful fully submitted walk with God we "Do not obey" in fact "We can not obey"..

God offers us victory through the power of infinite God the Holy Spirit, but we do not always avail ourselves of it.
In the case of others - they are not actually born again and so cannot rely on the Holy Spirit until they first accept the gift of repentance.

1 Cor 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it

1 John 3:4 "Sin IS transgression of the Law" --- it is rebellion. God does not want His children to walk in rebellion against Him.

 

[NBB]

The bible is not incorrect, but we need to be filled with the Holy spirit so he can work on us.
Also perfect doesn't mean we are not going to sin at all, but yes we are required we stop doing serious mistakes, you know the commandments, those serious sins we need to stop, we always going to have imperfections and some sin, but we need to stop doing the serious ones because those really affect our relationship with God.

 

[bling]

I agree, but I know of no person who is perfect in their behaviour. Perhaps there is such a living person on the earth since I have not met every living person. I assume you do not claim perfection either so that leaves us dependent upon Christ and his perfection while ever growing more and more like Christ by the author and finisher of our faith. Does this make sense?

We are equating "perfection" with not sinning and thus we are seeking a "not sinning future", but what we need to be seeking is pleasing God, which is not the same as "not sinning". A dead person does not sin. You can be pleasing to God in the present, while not sinning yesterday at all and sinning in the present is not pleasing to God. Live in the present, the past is past, and you have been forgiven of your past.
If you did everything right yesterday, you would have done the minimum requirement, so there is no added reward over the person forgiven of the sins they did yesterday.
Be concerned about please God in the present, then you will not have time to sin in the present, and the present has enough opportunities without worrying about the future.
Do not just "rely" on Christ, but partner with Christ working through you in the present to please God with your actions.

 

[bling]

The bible is not incorrect, but we need to be filled with the Holy spirit so he can work on us.
Also perfect doesn't mean we are not going to sin at all, but yes we are required we stop doing serious mistakes, you know the commandments, those serious sins we need to stop, we always going to have imperfections and some sin, but we need to stop doing the serious ones because those really affect our relationship with God.

So, your "sins" are not serious, but mine are?

 

[BobRyan]

1 John 2:1 "these things I write to you that you sin not! But IF anyone sins we have an Advocate with the Father
'
Jesus said "Go and SIN NO more" John 5;14, John 8:11

Rom 8 explains why some folks can't obey.
8:3 ,,,He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,

Without the Holy Spirit, without a repentant prayerful fully submitted walk with God we "Do not obey" in fact "We can not obey"..

God offers us victory through the power of infinite God the Holy Spirit, but we do not always avail ourselves of it.
In the case of others - they are not actually born again and so cannot rely on the Holy Spirit until they first accept the gift of repentance.

1 Cor 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it

1 John 3:4 "Sin IS transgression of the Law" --- it is rebellion. God does not want His children to walk in rebellion against Him.

When a drunk or a bank robber wants to join the church we tell them "you must all that bank robbing, and drinking sin".

Or do we just say "stop it a little bit"??

So, your "sins" are not serious, but mine are?

exactly the point.

By saying that there is some sin out that where God is not faithful to provide a way of escape, we have a class of sanctioned sin that we are not supposed to try to overcome.

 

[Hentenza]

Ponder this.

“But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5‬:‭8‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

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Notice that it says”while”. The love of God is amazing.

Secondly, when we sin “all” we have to do is confess.

“If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1‬:‭8‬-‭10‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

1 John 1:8-10 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all | New American Standard Bible - NAS

If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all

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So we sin but don’t live IN sin or FOR sin. During our lifelong process of sanctification we work alongside God to mature in our faith and progress toward perfection. The OP touched on some of the exhortations that scripture gives us to show us what good looks like but, by understanding the process, it becomes clear that, like any other great manager, God just expects us to progressively get better. Perfection will come with glorification which comes in the next life when all sin is fully removed.

 

[NBB]

So, your "sins" are not serious, but mine are?

I don't see why you feel 'accused', it was a statement for people in general.
Because the bible says don't be deceived those who do evil are not going to inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[d taylor]

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Can a person believe in God's promise. I do not see why they could not, they believe in all other kind of junk that is not true. Why not simply believe in God's promise, which is 100+% true.

I will say satan has been very successful throughout churches, in making belief in God's promise of Eternal Life to all who will believe in Jesus for Eternal Life. Out to be a lie or some kind of crazy Un-Biblical theological teaching.

 

[Aaron112]

I’ve often wondered why the Bible gives us so many commands that seem impossible to follow — things like be holy, love your enemies, be perfect, and do not sin. If no one can actually live up to that standard, how can anyone possibly be saved? I want to be perfect, God' wants me to be perfect, so why am I not perfect?

Are you believing or participating in a group (a church) that you honestly think or used to think was telling and living the truth, that they were willingly serving Jesus ? That's the main reason that keeps people from being mature in Jesus, even keeps multitudes from ever seeking or following Jesus.

 

[fhansen]

I’ve often wondered why the Bible gives us so many commands that seem impossible to follow — things like be holy, love your enemies, be perfect, and do not sin. If no one can actually live up to that standard, how can anyone possibly be saved? I want to be perfect, God' wants me to be perfect, so why am I not perfect?

As I’ve thought and prayed about it, I’ve come to see that the commands themselves aren’t meant to show how strong we are, but how much we need God. In Romans 3:20, Paul says, “Through the law comes knowledge of sin.” God’s law works like a mirror — it shows us His holiness and reveals how far we fall short. But a mirror can’t clean you; it can only show you what’s wrong. The law exposes our need, but it doesn’t provide the cure.

When the disciples asked Jesus, “Who then can be saved?” He answered, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:25–26). The impossibility of keeping God’s commands is meant to drive us away from self-reliance and toward dependence on Him. God never expected us to fix ourselves; He intended for us to turn to the One who could.

That’s where Christ comes in. Romans 8:3–4 explains that “what the law could not do, because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son.” Jesus didn’t just die to take away our sins; He also lived the perfect life we could never live. Through faith, His obedience becomes our righteousness.

In the end, salvation isn’t about performing well enough — it’s about trusting the One who did. Ephesians 2:8–9 says it best: “By grace you have been saved through faith... not of works, so that no one may boast.” God’s impossible commands point us to the only possible Savior. Once we belong to Christ, those same commands are no longer heavy burdens. Instead, they become invitations to live out His life within us through the power of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 2:20).

I fact, it is not primarily obedience God is seeking in us. He is seeking relationship. Just as the shepheard who sought the one in 99 God seeks us even while we are wandering away fron him. Maybe my obsession with being perfect has suplanted my relatiosnship with God.

God doesn’t command anything that cannot be obeyed, and Jesus demonstrates this by becoming man and obeying. The law doesn’t teach us that it’s impossible to obey God; rather the law teaches us that it’s impossible to obey God in the condition we’re born in, as Adam left us: apart from Him. Dead, IOW. We’re here to learn one critically important lesson, a truth Adam didn’t yet grasp in Eden: “Apart from Me you can do nothing” John 15:5

With Him, as we become His people by turning to Him in faith, He causes our righteousness, justifying the ungodly IOW (Rom 4:5) as branches receive their nourishment from the vine. Man was absolutely made for communion with God; we have no life and no purpose apart from Him.

“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.” Jer 31:33

The gospel isn’t merely a reprieve from the penalty of sin and from man’s obligation to be righteous. Rather the gospel is finally the means to achieving that very righteousness after exhausting trying to obey by our own efforts: achieving it the authentic way, God’s way, with Him. He really can do in us what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do, IOW. To sum it up in a better way, only God can cause us to begin to love as He does, and that love obeys, willingly, by its nature. We just need to turn to Him, and remain in Him.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

It's about continual spiritual transformation through living by faith, day by day.

 

[Abraham1st]

I guess you people might need me to explain for you, the answers about daily being transformed, are a lack of understanding, and an excuse also, how to not truly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.




Jesus spoke to the men of Israel, and notice many believed on Him, that might as well be comparable to the many in churches nowadays, who believe in some of what is heard, and why not, but Jesus tells these many, if they continue in HIs word, then they are HIs DISCIPLES INDEED, and they shall know the truth, and the truth SHALL MAKE THEM FREE.

Jesus answers how whosoever commits sin, (WHICH IS THE MANY HEARING JESUS.) are the SERVANTS of sin, (NOT DISCIPES/SERVANTS OF JESUS.) and the servant does not abide forever, the Son abides forever, and IF the Son shall MAKE THEM FREE, they SHALL BE FREE INDEED.

Jesus has to tell these same MANY, asking why they cannot understand HIs speech, EVEN BECAUSE THEY CANNIOT HEAR HIS WORD.

Here in direct answer to the MANY they have it WITNESSED, what SERVANTS OF SIN they are, the LUSTS OF THEIR FATHER THEY WILL DO, also NOT ABIDING IN THE TRUTH. (THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE/ THE SON ABIDESS FOREVER.)

BECAUSE JESUS TELLS THE MANY THE TRUTH, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE HIM. (IF THEY CONTINUE IN HIS WORD THEN THEY ARE HIS DISCIPLES INDEED, AND THEY SHALL KNOW THE TRTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKEYOU FREE.)

None of these MANY can convince Jesus to be of sin, and so Jesus is telling the truth, then WHY WOLD THEY NOT BELIEVE HIM ?

Jesus WITNESSES to the MANY, HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARS GOD'S WORDS, these MANY THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF GOD. (THE MANY ARE OF THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL/A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING/NO TRUTH IN HIM.)



Barnabus saw the grace of God and was glad, and EXHORTED THEM ALL, that with PURPOSE OF HEART they would CLEAVE unto the Lord. Barnabus being a good man and FULL OF THE HOLLY GHOST AND OF FAITH.

Barnabus sought Saul, and brought him to Antioch, and for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. The DISCIPLES were called Christians first at Antioch. (if they continue in HIs word, then they are HIs DISCIPLES INDEED, and they shall know the truth, and the truth SHALL MAKE THEM FREE.)





John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Acts 11:23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
24 For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.
25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.





Do any of you want to break the teaching of Jesus to the MANY, to think the way to teach has transformed, and that a different way to teach was presented by Apostle Paul. (as we just saw Barnabus and Saul exhorting much people and for them to cleave to the Lord with the same purpose of heart.)

Neither did Apostle Paul nor anyone of the Lords ministers transform the way Jesus spoke about the truth setting us free, so any other way to present Jesus would be as Jesus also had witnessed, to be of their father the devil.

Then in that same light, if we are RISEN WITH CHRIST, (THE SON ABIDES IN THE HOUSE FOREVER.) then we SEEK THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE ABOVE, WHERE CHRIST SITS ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD. (IF THE SON THEREFORE SHALL MAKE YOU FREE, YOU SHALL BE FREE INDEED.)

SET YOUR AFFECTIONS ON THINGS ABOVE, NOT ON THINGS ON THE EARTH. (you are dead, your life is HID WITH CHRIST IN GOD.)

WHEN CHRIST WH IS OUR LIFE, SHALL APPEAR, THEN SHALL YOU ALSO APPEAR WITH HIM IN GLORY.




Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.





LIE NOT TO ONE ANOTHER SEEING YOU HAVE PUT OFF THE OLD MAN WITH HIS DEEDS. (IF YOU CONTINUE IN MY WORD THEN ARE YOU MY DISCIPLES INDEED, AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.)

(WE DO REMEMBER THESE MANY ARE OF THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL/WHO WHEN HE SPEAKS IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT.)

The NEW man is PUT ON, RENEWED IN KNOWLEDGE AFTER THE IMAGE OF HIM THAT CREATED HIM, WHERE THERE IS CHRIST WHO IS ALL, AND IN ALL. (NOT IN THESE MANY WHO ARE WITNESSED, THEY.....THEREFORE... DO NOT HEAR HIS WORD, AS THEY ARE NOT OF GOD.)

PUT ON....THEREFORE.... AS THE ELECT OF GOD, HOLY AND BELOVED, BOWELS OF MERCIES, KINDNESS, HUMBLENESS OF MIND, MEEKNESS, LONGSUFFERING, FORBEARING ONE ANOTHER, AND FORGIVING ONE ANOTHER, as Christ FORGAVE YOU, so also do them, when in a quarrel.

AND ABOVE ALL THESE THINGS PUT ON CHARITY, WHICH IS THE BOND OF PERFECTNESS. (If the Son therefore shall make you free, YOU SHALL BE FREE INDEED.)




Colossians 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

 

[fhansen]

I guess you people might need me to explain for you, the answers about daily being transformed, are a lack of understanding, and an excuse also, how to not truly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.




Jesus spoke to the men of Israel, and notice many believed on Him, that might as well be comparable to the many in churches nowadays, who believe in some of what is heard, and why not, but Jesus tells these many, if they continue in HIs word, then they are HIs DISCIPLES INDEED, and they shall know the truth, and the truth SHALL MAKE THEM FREE.

Jesus answers how whosoever commits sin, (WHICH IS THE MANY HEARING JESUS.) are the SERVANTS of sin, (NOT DISCIPES/SERVANTS OF JESUS.) and the servant does not abide forever, the Son abides forever, and IF the Son shall MAKE THEM FREE, they SHALL BE FREE INDEED.

Jesus has to tell these same MANY, asking why they cannot understand HIs speech, EVEN BECAUSE THEY CANNIOT HEAR HIS WORD.

Here in direct answer to the MANY they have it WITNESSED, what SERVANTS OF SIN they are, the LUSTS OF THEIR FATHER THEY WILL DO, also NOT ABIDING IN THE TRUTH. (THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE/ THE SON ABIDESS FOREVER.)

BECAUSE JESUS TELLS THE MANY THE TRUTH, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE HIM. (IF THEY CONTINUE IN HIS WORD THEN THEY ARE HIS DISCIPLES INDEED, AND THEY SHALL KNOW THE TRTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKEYOU FREE.)

None of these MANY can convince Jesus to be of sin, and so Jesus is telling the truth, then WHY WOLD THEY NOT BELIEVE HIM ?

Jesus WITNESSES to the MANY, HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARS GOD'S WORDS, these MANY THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF GOD. (THE MANY ARE OF THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL/A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING/NO TRUTH IN HIM.)



Barnabus saw the grace of God and was glad, and EXHORTED THEM ALL, that with PURPOSE OF HEART they would CLEAVE unto the Lord. Barnabus being a good man and FULL OF THE HOLLY GHOST AND OF FAITH.

Barnabus sought Saul, and brought him to Antioch, and for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. The DISCIPLES were called Christians first at Antioch. (if they continue in HIs word, then they are HIs DISCIPLES INDEED, and they shall know the truth, and the truth SHALL MAKE THEM FREE.)





John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Acts 11:23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
24 For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.
25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.





Do any of you want to break the teaching of Jesus to the MANY, to think the way to teach has transformed, and that a different way to teach was presented by Apostle Paul. (as we just saw Barnabus and Saul exhorting much people and for them to cleave to the Lord with the same purpose of heart.)

Neither did Apostle Paul nor anyone of the Lords ministers transform the way Jesus spoke about the truth setting us free, so any other way to present Jesus would be as Jesus also had witnessed, to be of their father the devil.

Then in that same light, if we are RISEN WITH CHRIST, (THE SON ABIDES IN THE HOUSE FOREVER.) then we SEEK THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE ABOVE, WHERE CHRIST SITS ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD. (IF THE SON THEREFORE SHALL MAKE YOU FREE, YOU SHALL BE FREE INDEED.)

SET YOUR AFFECTIONS ON THINGS ABOVE, NOT ON THINGS ON THE EARTH. (you are dead, your life is HID WITH CHRIST IN GOD.)

WHEN CHRIST WH IS OUR LIFE, SHALL APPEAR, THEN SHALL YOU ALSO APPEAR WITH HIM IN GLORY.




Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.





LIE NOT TO ONE ANOTHER SEEING YOU HAVE PUT OFF THE OLD MAN WITH HIS DEEDS. (IF YOU CONTINUE IN MY WORD THEN ARE YOU MY DISCIPLES INDEED, AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.)

(WE DO REMEMBER THESE MANY ARE OF THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL/WHO WHEN HE SPEAKS IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT.)

The NEW man is PUT ON, RENEWED IN KNOWLEDGE AFTER THE IMAGE OF HIM THAT CREATED HIM, WHERE THERE IS CHRIST WHO IS ALL, AND IN ALL. (NOT IN THESE MANY WHO ARE WITNESSED, THEY.....THEREFORE... DO NOT HEAR HIS WORD, AS THEY ARE NOT OF GOD.)

PUT ON....THEREFORE.... AS THE ELECT OF GOD, HOLY AND BELOVED, BOWELS OF MERCIES, KINDNESS, HUMBLENESS OF MIND, MEEKNESS, LONGSUFFERING, FORBEARING ONE ANOTHER, AND FORGIVING ONE ANOTHER, as Christ FORGAVE YOU, so also do them, when in a quarrel.

AND ABOVE ALL THESE THINGS PUT ON CHARITY, WHICH IS THE BOND OF PERFECTNESS. (If the Son therefore shall make you free, YOU SHALL BE FREE INDEED.)




Colossians 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

So, to be clear, you’re saying that a true believer will be free from all sin (lawlessness)? That they will be perfected in love?

 

[Abraham1st]

John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

 

[Abraham1st]

This is a good answer for a persons questions also, a person can see this thread and what the TITLE says and what it leads to..





DID ANYTHING JESUS SPOKE TO ISRAEL SAVE THEM, OR IS IT ONLY WHAT JESUS DID, THAT SAVES THEM, IF THEY BELIEVED IN CHRIST CRUCIFIED?

 

[Mercy Shown]

God doesn’t command anything that cannot be obeyed, and Jesus demonstrates this by becoming man and obeying. The law doesn’t teach us that it’s impossible to obey God; rather the law teaches us that it’s impossible to obey God in the condition we’re born in, as Adam left us: apart from Him. Dead, IOW. We’re here to learn one critically important lesson, a truth Adam didn’t yet grasp in Eden: “Apart from Me you can do nothing” John 15:5

With Him, as we become His people by turning to Him in faith, He causes our righteousness, justifying the ungodly IOW (Rom 4:5) as branches receive their nourishment from the vine. Man was absolutely made for communion with God; we have no life and no purpose apart from Him.

“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.” Jer 31:33

The gospel isn’t merely a reprieve from the penalty of sin and from man’s obligation to be righteous. Rather the gospel is finally the means to achieving that very righteousness after exhausting trying to obey by our own efforts: achieving it the authentic way, God’s way, with Him. He really can do in us what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do, IOW. To sum it up in a better way, only God can cause us to begin to love as He does, and that love obeys, willingly, by its nature. We just need to turn to Him, and remain in Him.

Certainly it is the path we set our feet on while walking after the Spirit but are you claiming that you obey God perfectly. That you never sin and stand as an example of a sinless person? Are you now as perfect as God in heaven?

 

[Mercy Shown]

Are you believing or participating in a group (a church) that you honestly think or used to think was telling and living the truth, that they were willingly serving Jesus ? That's the main reason that keeps people from being mature in Jesus, even keeps multitudes from ever seeking or following Jesus.

This is strictly about seeing the beauty of God’s holiness and love contrasted with mine. I know that now I stand before God is if I had never sinned. but that is not because of my holiness it is because of His. This does give me license to go out and willfully live a hedonistic life. Never! It inspires me to set my feet on the path of righteousness, but a path leads to a destination. It is not the destination itself.