SO HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED ??

[Dan Perez]

And this is what ACTS 15:1 SAYS !!

# 1 AND //. KAI ,is a CONJUNCATION

# 2 CERTAIN MEN //. TIS , INDEFINITE. PRONOUN , in a NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL

# 3 WHICH CAME DOWN //. KATERCHOMIAI. , in. the. AORIST TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , a PARTICIPLE. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE.

in. the PLURAL

# 4 FROM // APO. , is a PREPOSITION

# 5. JUDAEA //. IOUDAIA , in the GENITIVE CASE , in. the SIGNULAR

# 6 TAUGHT //. DIDASKO. , is in the IMPERFECT TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the PLURAL

# 7 THE //. HO , is a DEFINITE ARTICLE , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL

# 8 BRETHREN // ADELPHOS. , in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL

# 9 AND SAID //. was added , EXCEPT // ME , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE

# 10. YE BE CIRCUMCISED // PENTEMNO. , in. the PESENT TENSE , in the PASSIVE VOICE. in. the SUBJUNCTIVE. , in. the PLURAL

# 11 AFTER THE // THE , is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. , is in DATIVE. CASE. , in. the SINGULAR , is a NEUTER

# 12. MANNER. // ETHOS. in. the DATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR and. in. the NEUTER

# 13. OF MOSES // MOYSOS. in. the GENITIVE CASE. , in. the SINGULAR

# 14. NOT //. OU. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE

# 15. YE CANNOT //. DYNAMA , in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the MIDDLE or PRESENT VOICE. in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the PLURAL

#. 16. BE SAVED // SOZO in. the AORIST TENSE , in. the PASSIVE VOICE.

And this verse PLAINLY says men , to be saved , you have to be CIRCUMCISED

# 17. And just what are woman going to. DO. ??

# 18 Are we saved by Rom 10:9 and 10 , if you confess with your mouth the LORD JESUS. and should believe your heart. that GOD.

raised Him from the dead you WILL BE SAVED

# 19 Are you saved by Water Baptism

# 20. Saved by BEING BORN AGAIN ?

# 21 Saved by WATER and the SPIRIT ??

What say you. ??

dan p

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

And this is what ACTS 15:1 SAYS !!

# 1 AND //. KAI ,is a CONJUNCATION

# 2 CERTAIN MEN //. TIS , INDEFINITE. PRONOUN , ina NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL

# 3 WHICH CAME DOWN //. KATERCHOMIAI. , in. the. AORIST TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , a PARTICIPLE. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE.

in. the PLURAL

# 4 FROM // APO. , is a PREPOSITION

# 5. JUDAEA //. IOUDAIA , in the GENITIVE CASE , in. the SIGNULAR

# 6 TAUGHT //. DIDASKO. , is in the IMPERFECT TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the PLURAL

# 7 THE //. HO , is a DEFINITE ARTICLE , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL

# 8 BRETHREN // ADELPHOS. , in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL

# 9 AND SAID //. was added , EXCEPT // ME , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE

# 10. YE BE CIRCUMCISED // PENTEMNO. , in. the PESENT TENSE , in the PASSIVE VOICE. in. the SUBJUNCTIVE. , in. the PLURAL

# 11 AFTER THE // THE , is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. , is a DATIVE ARTICILE. in. the DATIVE. CASE. , in. the SINGULAR , is a NEUTER

# 12. MANNER. // ETHOS. in. the DATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR and. in. the NEUTER

# 13. OF MOSES // MOYSOS. in. the GENITIVE CASE. , in. the SINGULAR

# 14. NOT //. OU. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE

# 15. YE CANNOT //. DYNAMA , in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the MIDDLE or PRESENT VOICE. in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the PLURAL

#. 16. BE SAVED // SOZO in. the AORIST TENSE , in. the PASSIVE VOICE.

And this verse PLAINLY says men , to be saved , you have to be CIRCUMCISED

# 17. And just what are woman going to. DO. ??

# 18 Are we saved by Rom 10:9 and 10 , if you confess with your mouth the LORD JESUS. and should believe your heart. that GOD.

raised Him from the dead you WILL BE SAVED

# 19 Are you saved by Water Baptism

# 20. Saved by BEING BORN AGAIN ?

# 21 Saved by vvWater and the SPIRIT ??

What say you. ??

dan p

Jesus said someone giving another a cup of water will not lose their reward.

Mark 9:41
For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

Giving a cup of water salvation it is then...pretty low bar ain't it?

1 John 4:7 makes it even simpler. Anyone who loves knows God and is born of God. To me that can technically apply to everyone, don't you think?

Why is it we think it's mandatory to threaten ourselves or other people with possible eternal torture anyway? It's kind of sick, really, if you think about it.

I have no issues with hell, and devils heading there. But I really can't see it for people. There's not a single named example of this supposed fact in the entire Bible. You might think with all the possible candidates at least ONE NAMED PERSON could have been singled out as an example? But alas, there is not a one to confirm this so called fact.

So why take on that darkness to anyone?

People who supposedly serve under threat of possible hell to themselves are brown nosing to save their own sorry hides. Like God is a criminal holding a gun to them. Who wouldn't cough up to save their life in that kind of setup?

Jesus had zero respect for that setup:

Marr. 25:
25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

Servants under duress might not walk away from the table with anything

Haven't you ever belonged to a sect where the congregants were just waiting for anyone to say or do anything they considered "out of line" so they could pounce on someone else with the proclamation of possible hell? It's really sickening, such sects. The churches are unfortunately filled with such megalomaniacs. There's just some compelling in their hearts that makes them want to be the arbiter of some other person's eternal fate.

The only long term survivor in this entire format is God in any case:

1 Cor. 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Who in their right mind would hold on to themselves, when they could simply give up everything to have Perfection Dwell in them? Seems like a pretty fair deal, don't you think?

 

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The guarantee we have been given to know God will fulfill all His promises is the indwelling Holy Spirit.

 

[Dan Perez]

Jesus said someone giving another a cup of water will not lose their reward.

Mark 9:41
For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

Giving a cup of water salvation it is then...pretty low bar ain't it?

1 John 4:7 makes it even simpler. Anyone who loves knows God and is born of God. To me that can technically apply to everyone, don't you think?

Why is it we think it's mandatory to threaten ourselves or other people with possible eternal torture anyway? It's kind of sick, really, if you think about it.

I have no issues with hell, and devils heading there. But I really can't see it for people. There's not a single named example of this supposed fact in the entire Bible. You might think with all the possible candidates at least ONE NAMED PERSON could have been singled out as an example? But alas, there is not a one to confirm this so called fact.

So why take on that darkness to anyone?

People who supposedly serve under threat of possible hell to themselves are brown nosing to save their own sorry hides. Like God is a criminal holding a gun to them. Who wouldn't cough up to save their life in that kind of setup?

Jesus had zero respect for that setup:

Marr. 25:
25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

Servants under duress might not walk away from the table with anything

Haven't you ever belonged to a sect where the congregants were just waiting for anyone to say or do anything they considered "out of line" so they could pounce on someone else with the proclamation of possible hell? It's really sickening, such sects. The churches are unfortunately filled with such megalomaniacs. There's just some compelling in their hearts that makes them want to be the arbiter of some other person's eternal fate.

The only long term survivor in this entire format is God in any case:

1 Cor. 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Who in their right mind would hold on to themselves, when they could simply give up everything to have Perfection Dwell in them? Seems like a pretty fair deal, don't you think?

And you did write LOTS of words. and did not reply to the OP and I do like what Paul wrote because Paul

is the APOSTLE to. the GENTILES , BUT that does mean that I never use the Old TESTAMENT. when. anyone uses ''

the word out of CONTEXT. !!

Why not explain what Rom 11:32. means and like your REPLY. ??

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

Jesus said someone giving another a cup of water will not lose their reward.

Mark 9:41
For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

Giving a cup of water salvation it is then...pretty low bar ain't it?

1 John 4:7 makes it even simpler. Anyone who loves knows God and is born of God. To me that can technically apply to everyone, don't you think?

Why is it we think it's mandatory to threaten ourselves or other people with possible eternal torture anyway? It's kind of sick, really, if you think about it.

I have no issues with hell, and devils heading there. But I really can't see it for people. There's not a single named example of this supposed fact in the entire Bible. You might think with all the possible candidates at least ONE NAMED PERSON could have been singled out as an example? But alas, there is not a one to confirm this so called fact.

So why take on that darkness to anyone?

People who supposedly serve under threat of possible hell to themselves are brown nosing to save their own sorry hides. Like God is a criminal holding a gun to them. Who wouldn't cough up to save their life in that kind of setup?

Jesus had zero respect for that setup:

Marr. 25:
25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

Servants under duress might not walk away from the table with anything

Haven't you ever belonged to a sect where the congregants were just waiting for anyone to say or do anything they considered "out of line" so they could pounce on someone else with the proclamation of possible hell? It's really sickening, such sects. The churches are unfortunately filled with such megalomaniacs. There's just some compelling in their hearts that makes them want to be the arbiter of some other person's eternal fate.

The only long term survivor in this entire format is God in any case:

1 Cor. 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Who in their right mind would hold on to themselves, when they could simply give up everything to have Perfection Dwell in them? Seems like a pretty fair deal, don't you think?

And giving some one a cup. of water will. GREAT. if Christ it to one called and ISRAELITE and you are standing. before Christ

is BIG. and this what will happen to. Israel !!

Now this what will happen. to. those saved BY. GRACE and PLACED into. the BODY OF CHRIST is in. 1. Cor 2:9. , Just as to

has been. written. which. the EYE. did not SEE , and the EAR did not HEAR and did NOT. come up upon the HEART

of MAN. the THINGS. God PREPARED for the Ones LOVING Him.

dan p

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

And you did write LOTS of words. and did not reply to the OP

CIting Jesus' cup of water as an example answered your question. Not losing a reward seems secure enough

Why not explain what Rom 11:32. means and like your REPLY. ??

It wasn't in my response, but if it was it speaks for itself without any splainin on my part anyway

 

[Dan Perez]

CIting Jesus' cup of water as an example answered your question. Not losing a reward seems secure enough

It wasn't in my response, but if it was it speaks for itself without any splainin on my part anyway

AND 1. John 5:118 reads this by the HOLY SPIRIT , had John write !!

# 1 WE KNOW // EID0 is v. I the Greek PERFECT TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , and this MOOD

means yo better believe IT , and in. the PLURAL. , which means v. ALL better believe it

# 2 THAT // HOTI. , is. a CONJUNCATION

# 3. WHOSOEVER // PAS , is. a NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR

# 4. IS. BORN // GENNAO is. in. the PEFECT TENSE , in. the PASSIVE VOICE , means God involved

# 5. OF // EK. , is. a PREPOSTION

# 6. GOD // THEOS. in. the GENITIVE CASE. , in. the SIGNULAR

# 7 SINNETH // HAMARTANO. is in. the PRESENY TENSE , means. that PRESENT TENSE is CONTINTINOUS , in. the SINGULAR

# 8. NOT // is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and means NOTTTTT. EVERRRR SIN NNNN

How will you explain verse 18. as IT SPEAKS FOR IT SELF. and not talking about. a cup of WATER !!

dan p