Men now surpass women in church attendance, especially among Gen X, millennials: Barna

[RDKirk]

I think the general idea is people wanting to keep what's good about their culture (faith, cuisine, art, music, etc.),

That's only a surface view of what "culture" means that they bring with them.

Culture is not merely "faith, cuisine, art, music,_ and those visible things. That's just "surface culture."

The culture of an ethnic group also includes their "Shallow Culture." Shallow Culture is made up of the unspoke rules around everyday social interactions and norms: Courtesy, attitudes toward elders, nature or friendship, concepts of timeliness, personal space, rules about eye contact or appropriate touching. This level has a strong emotional charge. Interpretation of certain behaviors can manifest as being friendly, hostile, disrespectful, or offensive. Social violation of these norms can cause mistrust, distress, or social friction.

And the bring with them their "Deep Culture," which is the tacit knowledge and unconscious assumptions that govern world view. They include cosmology, morality, spirituality, health, and theories of group harmony. Deep culture governs how we approve of new information (epistemology). While shallow culture pertains to how moral values are socially presented, deep culture pertains to how those moral values are characterized. Deep culture defines right/wrong, respect/disrespect, honor/dishonor.

We're talking about differences in how cultures approach the very substances of human interactions and world views--"good" things from their point of view--and you're saying we're going to clash all those together...because they can't mix.

 

[PloverWing]

That's only a surface view of what "culture" means that they bring with them.

I agree that you've given a more complete view of what "culture" means. I'm not as pessimistic as your last paragraph suggests, though I agree that there's lots of potential to violate each other's cultural norms.

 

[FireDragon76]

I wonder why?

Lots of reasons, mostly cultural or having to do with Orthodox perceived as a high-demand religion (a perception that is often accurate). There's also the fact the number of Orthodox Christians in the US is relatively small, and some potential spouses have high standards and view marriage as being at least somewhat of a social transaction between families, and not necessarily in terms of western individualism.

The end result is that in the last couple of decades, the orthodox church hasn't really grown in size much, even though conversions have continued, as statistically converts have tended to lose interest after several years, or cradle Orthodox disaffiliate.

 

[RDKirk]

I agree that you've given a more complete view of what "culture" means. I'm not as pessimistic as your last paragraph suggests, though I agree that there's lots of potential to violate each other's cultural norms.

Nobody really wants genuine "diversity." People who say that really want only surface-level diversity with everyone adhering their own culture beneath the surface. The people who say "diversity" really want Oreos, bananas, coconuts, and apples.

 

[Paidiske]

I'm not sure that's true. Diversity is one expression of the rich variety of the wisdom of God, and a wise and humble person can appreciate that diversity is part of God's gift and God's grace, for the flourishing of society. That it's a mistake to want or feel the need for everyone to think alike, feel like, act alike, but that through difference we can all learn and grow and be enriched.

 

[RDKirk]

I'm not sure that's true. Diversity is one expression of the rich variety of the wisdom of God, and a wise and humble person can appreciate that diversity is part of God's gift and God's grace, for the flourishing of society. That it's a mistake to want or feel the need for everyone to think alike, feel like, act alike, but that through difference we can all learn and grow and be enriched.

If you really believed that, you would be happy with a Taliban province in Australia. Would you flourish as a woman in Afghanistan?

 

[bèlla]

When most people speak of diversity in relation to themselves or society they’re typically referencing the surface-level variety @RDKirk depicts. The biggest charge against immigrants over the years was a lack of assimilation. We wanted them to embrace our culture, values and language. Those who refused to do so were viewed disparagingly. That‘s why you don’t see as much vitriol directed to Asians as opposed to other groups. They’re playing the game and blending to look the part.

~bella

 

[timothyu]

I think the general idea is people wanting to keep what's good about their culture (faith, cuisine, art, music, etc.)

As all do to maintain their heritage but not bring along their former politics or street vibes

 

[timothyu]

Deep culture governs how we approve of new information (epistemology).

The same reason we often feel out of place when in foreign countries. As tourists we can be just as guilty of wanting things to be like at home, likewise do some migrants, and if their former lifestyle was less than appropriate in behaviour, it will remain. This will often be the case as upbringing in less civilized areas will determine behaviour out of basic survival and it sticks. Often takes a couple generations to leave it behind unless the cultures remain isolated.

 

[timewerx]

The clock has started and you don’t have time to waiver. This was posted yesterday and a comment follows.

Climate change/global warming is seen as one of the main causes of mass immigration. The tech I'm developing is directly concerned with the issue of climate change. Ironically, time is not on my side, at least not for the moment.

Bill Gates launches micro-patch implants to serve as "vaccination passport" for entry into public and commercial buildings

The Gates Foundation has unveiled microneedle patch implants that deliver mRNA and leave a permanent quantum dot marking under your skin, essentially creating a biological vaccine passport. Human testing has already begun, and reports suggest these patches could soon be required for entry into...

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I can't find this specific info outside of facebook link and conspiracy articles and I really don't trust anything that's coming from facebook. I don't trust filthy rich people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk either.

But I don't like RNA vaccines either. Those Covid shots gave me hypertension and brain tumor-like symptoms which severely impacted my ability to stay wide awake and alert when working unless doing something that raised my adrenaline levels like skating.

Of course I’m female. Get to work. ;-)

~bella

 

[RDKirk]

When most people speak of diversity in relation to themselves or society they’re typically referencing the surface-level variety @RDKirk depicts. The biggest charge against immigrants over the years was a lack of assimilation. We wanted them to embrace our culture, values and language. Those who refused to do so were viewed disparagingly. That‘s why you don’t see as much vitriol directed to Asians as opposed to other groups. They’re playing the game and blending to look the part.

~bella

Some cultures can be very different in their deep cultural values and yet not create conflict. The differences just don't bump into one another. I think that's the case with Asians.

 

[Paidiske]

If you really believed that, you would be happy with a Taliban province in Australia. Would you flourish as a woman in Afghanistan?

Personally, no, I wouldn't. But nor would I want to prevent women who choose to do so - and I realise that some do - from living according to those values.

Some diversity is challenging, of course. But I think the alternative would leave us all impoverished.

 

[bèlla]

Climate change/global warming is seen as one of the main causes of mass immigration. The tech I'm developing is directly concerned with the issue of climate change. Ironically, time is not on my side, at least not for the moment.

Lack of employment, an aging population, and positions we‘re unwilling to fill top the list as does violence too. We import migrants every year for different positions. But they’re only here for a time and return home. Bringing large amounts of foreigners into a country and expecting the taxpayers to support them is bound to cause chaos and weren’t asked either.

I can't find this specific info outside of facebook link and conspiracy articles and I really don't trust anything that's coming from facebook. I don't trust filthy rich people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk either.

I looked it up and it isn’t false.

No more needles? Gates Foundation funds patch-style vaccine technology (2023)

LONDON, Nov 16 (Reuters) - The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has given $23.6 million to U.S.-based life science company Micron Biomedical to fund the first ever mass production of needle-free vaccine technology.
The technology works by delivering the vaccine via dissolvable microneedles attached to the skin on a patch-like device.

Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, and Sam Altman Announce the End of Smartphones — But Tim Cook Isn’t Playing Along

In recent months, a quiet shift has taken shape across Silicon Valley. Some of the most powerful voices in technology are floating a vision for the future that excludes the very device that has defined the digital era for more than a decade: the smartphone. For Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, and Bill Gates, the next wave of innovation doesn’t involve a sleeker phone — it replaces it altogether.

Each of them is backing different technologies that promise to render smartphones obsolete. From brain implants to digital tattoos and augmented reality glasses, their ambitions suggest a world where humans interact with devices not through touchscreens, but directly through thought, vision, or even skin. It is a radical break from the present — one not everyone is ready to embrace.

Bill Gates says AI will replace doctors, teachers within 10 years — and claims humans won’t be needed ‘for most things’

Bill Gates predicted that advancements in artificial intelligence will significantly reduce humanity’s role in many traditional tasks such as medicine and education — and the seismic shift could happen in less than 10 years.

During a recent interview with comedian Jimmy Fallon on NBC’s “The Tonight Show,” the Microsoft co-founder described a future where humans are no longer necessary “for most things” because AI technology will readily perform tasks that currently require specialized human skills.

Today, expertise in fields such as medicine and education remains “rare,” Gates said, adding that those areas depend on “a great doctor” or “a great teacher.” But over the next decade, “great medical advice [and] great tutoring” will become free and commonplace, Gates said.

Gates further elaborated on this vision of a new era he terms “free intelligence” in a conversation last month with Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor known for his research on happiness.

AI technology will increasingly permeate daily life, revolutionizing areas from healthcare and diagnosis to education — with AI tutors becoming broadly available, the mogul predicted.

But I don't like RNA vaccines either. Those Covid shots gave me hypertension and brain tumor-like symptoms which severely impacted my ability to stay wide awake and alert when working unless doing something that raised my adrenaline levels like skating.

I don’t trust any of it and the intellectual divide won’t be dismantled. The population will be privy to more but the most advanced features and information will be remain within certain hands. I was looking at a boarding school last night in Switzerland that starts the children on robotics and related subjects at eight. There’s no way you’ll convince me someone paying $170K per year is getting the same experience you’d have free of charge.

~bella

 

[RDKirk]

Personally, no, I wouldn't. But nor would I want to prevent women who choose to do so - and I realise that some do - from living according to those values.

Some diversity is challenging, of course. But I think the alternative would leave us all impoverished.

But would you be happy with a Taliban province in Australia? Would you be happy with people practicing Afghan habits in Australia, such as toward young girls and young boys, if that's their culture?

 

[Paidiske]

But would you be happy with a Taliban province in Australia?

I think it would depend on exactly what it meant and how it was done. Ultimately, for example, a "Taliban province" might not be very different than a closed community living according to their values, and that's already possible.

 

[bèlla]

Some cultures can be very different in their deep cultural values and yet not create conflict. The differences just don't bump into one another. I think that's the case with Asians.

They’re more receptive to western influence and downplay the other but its there. Especially with the men. But the affirmative action decision was a blow and opened their eyes to the truth. It’s not that they’re more accepted. Their offense is socioeconomic not cultural.

~bella

 

[timewerx]

Lack of employment, an aging population, and positions we‘re unwilling to fill top the list as does violence too. We import migrants every year for different positions. But they’re only here for a time and return home. Bringing large amounts of foreigners into a country and expecting the taxpayers to support them is bound to cause chaos and weren’t asked either.

Better living conditions at their origin countries may change things.

I looked it up and it isn’t false.

No more needles? Gates Foundation funds patch-style vaccine technology (2023)

LONDON, Nov 16 (Reuters) - The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has given $23.6 million to U.S.-based life science company Micron Biomedical to fund the first ever mass production of needle-free vaccine technology.
The technology works by delivering the vaccine via dissolvable microneedles attached to the skin on a patch-like device.

Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, and Sam Altman Announce the End of Smartphones — But Tim Cook Isn’t Playing Along

In recent months, a quiet shift has taken shape across Silicon Valley. Some of the most powerful voices in technology are floating a vision for the future that excludes the very device that has defined the digital era for more than a decade: the smartphone. For Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, and Bill Gates, the next wave of innovation doesn’t involve a sleeker phone — it replaces it altogether.

Each of them is backing different technologies that promise to render smartphones obsolete. From brain implants to digital tattoos and augmented reality glasses, their ambitions suggest a world where humans interact with devices not through touchscreens, but directly through thought, vision, or even skin. It is a radical break from the present — one not everyone is ready to embrace.

Bill Gates says AI will replace doctors, teachers within 10 years — and claims humans won’t be needed ‘for most things’

Bill Gates predicted that advancements in artificial intelligence will significantly reduce humanity’s role in many traditional tasks such as medicine and education — and the seismic shift could happen in less than 10 years.

During a recent interview with comedian Jimmy Fallon on NBC’s “The Tonight Show,” the Microsoft co-founder described a future where humans are no longer necessary “for most things” because AI technology will readily perform tasks that currently require specialized human skills.

Today, expertise in fields such as medicine and education remains “rare,” Gates said, adding that those areas depend on “a great doctor” or “a great teacher.” But over the next decade, “great medical advice [and] great tutoring” will become free and commonplace, Gates said.

Gates further elaborated on this vision of a new era he terms “free intelligence” in a conversation last month with Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor known for his research on happiness.

AI technology will increasingly permeate daily life, revolutionizing areas from healthcare and diagnosis to education — with AI tutors becoming broadly available, the mogul predicted.

I might be persuaded to adopt the tech If Bill, Elon, Mark, etc, volunteer as guinea pigs for this tech!

I'd probably take it. I have problems like physical traumas that affected my conscious thought processes. I see it as the only way I can get help like AI if the tech is going to be distributed for free.

Otherwise, I'm not paying for it. I might be seeing the prophecies differently but we'll see. I'm interested to see how the majority of Christians will react to the tech and may influence my decision. I have no stake on it so not worried.