Speaker Johnson describes planned No Kings rally as ‘hate America,’ ‘pro-Hamas’ gathering

[rjs330]

""The head of a national crowd-for-hire firm is warning that America’s protest culture has become a target for exploitation — by paid agitators, profit-driven interest groups and even foreign actors seeking to fuel division.""

‘No Kings’ protest could attract paid agitators and foreign influence, crowd-for-hire CEO warns​

I would stay away from anything FOXnews and their links of claims that go nowhere.

Yes they COULD. I think it should be a legitimate concern for the organizers and should prepare for that possibility. The fact that the last rally went pretty well, bodes well for them this time. But they shouldn't poo poo away the fact that there are those who would latch on and be a problem. We've seen it before. I hope they are able to rally and be peaceful while doing it.

I want that from every group that does that.

 

[rjs330]

That is a straw man that you are using to attack people with a belief that is not so incredibly ridiculous . The belief that we are on a slippery slope and we slowly becoming more authoritarian.

As I said, they are free to protest whatever they wish and believe whatever they wish. The fact that rhey can is evidence that its a false narrative they are fussing about.

 

[rjs330]

It's a preventitive response to the consolidation of power into the executive branch of what is the established 3 equal branches of government in the this country, but that should be obvious.

Another example of a false narrative. There has been no consolidation of power in the executive. The executive is still in charge of the executive. The courts are still functioning and Congress is still the legislative branch.

The fact that some may not like what the executive branch is doing doesn't mean that its taken over the other branches functions.

 

[perplexed]

As I said, they are free to protest whatever they wish and believe whatever they wish. The fact that rhey can is evidence that its a false narrative they are fussing about.

??? was something I said unclear?

 

[Servus]

This is just rerun of 2017 -2021 when the left went on and on and on about the President being a dictator, and protested over and over again.

 

[rjs330]

This is just rerun of 2017 -2021 when the left went on and on and on about the President being a dictator, and protested over and over again.

And it wasn't true then and isn't true now. I just don't get it. Everything is running like it always has. All this complaining about authoritarianism and kings or Nazis or dictatorship etc, is just a bunch of nonsense.

Suddenly the rule of law equals authoritarianism.

 

[rjs330]

??? was something I said unclear?

Hmmm... the protests are still protesting things that aren't happening, rendering them moot. And the fact that rhey are still going to be able to do them, is proof of that, so I don't know. I think I've been clear as well and whatever your claim is, is also moot.

 

[Servus]

And it wasn't true then and isn't true now. I just don't get it. Everything is running like it always has. All this complaining about authoritarianism and kings or Nazis or dictatorship etc, is just a bunch of nonsense.

Suddenly the rule of law equals authoritarianism.

The left has been on that kick full throttle since BLM and defund the police.

 

[wing2000]

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Have you seen the "domestic terrorist"?

Andrew Egger writes:

"These days, after all, accusations like “terrorist wing,” “pro-Hamas,” and “Antifa” aren’t just insults. They’re talismans—phrases that unlock, in the view of the administration, a permission structure for the deployment of state violence. The largest, most organized, peaceful protest movement of the Trump 2.0 Resistance is coming back this week—and Republicans are talking as if they’re prepared to unleash the might of their increasingly politicized federal law enforcement (and, perhaps, accompanying military?) on it.

This isn’t to say, of course, that a state crackdown on No Kings 2 is guaranteed to take place. Even Donald Trump and Stephen Miller might flinch from the headlines that would result from their militarized cops cracking heads in a peaceful crowd flying American flags. That’s no way to win a Nobel Peace Prize!

The point, though, is that they’re keeping their options open. It may be better to put down protest through fear than through action—but either works. In the rhetoric of today’s Republicans, a No Kings protester is functionally equivalent to a domestic terrorist. That gives them all the room to maneuver they might need."

Trump’s Guilt-By-Association Law Enforcement

The groundwork has been laid to go after innocent people, opposition groups, and even No Kings protesters.

www.thebulwark.com

 

[wing2000]

As I said, they are free to protest whatever they wish and believe whatever they wish. The fact that rhey can is evidence that its a false narrative they are fussing about.

A narrative informed by actual abuse of power by this president:

- deporting people with no due process
- detaining citizens based on their appearance
-snatching students off our streets by masked agents
-calling the democratic party, and now No King's protesters, terrorists....

 

[BCP1928]

Yes they COULD. I think it should be a legitimate concern for the organizers and should prepare for that possibility. The fact that the last rally went pretty well, bodes well for them this time. But they shouldn't poo poo away the fact that there are those who would latch on and be a problem. We've seen it before. I hope they are able to rally and be peaceful while doing it.

I want that from every group that does that.

Not that it will do them any good. Protesters in Oregon are taunting ICE agents with donuts and are dressing up in inflatable frog suits and Trump wants to call out the army to stop them.

 

[Say it aint so]

A narrative informed by actual abuse of power by this president:

- deporting people with no due process
- detaining citizens based on their appearance
-snatching students off our streets by masked agents
-calling the democratic party, and now No King's protesters, terrorists....

Sounds kind of like Fascism.

 

[Say it aint so]

Yes they COULD. I think it should be a legitimate concern for the organizers and should prepare for that possibility. The fact that the last rally went pretty well, bodes well for them this time. But they shouldn't poo poo away the fact that there are those who would latch on and be a problem. We've seen it before. I hope they are able to rally and be peaceful while doing it.

I want that from every group that does that.

"I want that from every group that does that."

You do, but apparently come the US government, certain groups not so much.

 

[rjs330]

deporting people with no due process

Thats not happening.

- detaining citizens based on their appearance

Thats not happening either.

snatching students off our streets by masked agents

Thats happening legally and it has been legal since the installment of immigration law.

calling the democratic party, and now No King's protesters, terrorists....

Thats free speech as much as calling Republicans Nazis and racists is. I actually don't recall the government calling the democratic party a terrorist organization. When did that happen?

Of course that ANTIFA wil be there and the pro-Hamas crowd would be tgere and would cause trouble is concern that is legit considering the actions shown during previous and current actions by those groups. And the facts are they primarily supported by the democrats and vote Democrat. Just like neo-nazis primarily vote republican. Calling tgat out isn't in anyway authoritarian on either side.

Thats why I said I hope the No Kings protests stay as peaceful this time and they dont suffer infiltration by these groups who could stir up trouble with their paid protestors.

It is only wise to prepare for trouble rather than not. It would be blatantly stupid not to plan for contingencies in light of what has happened.

If all is peaceful, great! If not, its better to be ready rather than trying to scramble at the last second if things go south.

I honestly don't expect them to myself. But I also understand the concerns.

 

[rjs330]

Not that it will do them any good. Protesters in Oregon are taunting ICE agents with donuts and are dressing up in inflatable frog suits and Trump wants to call out the army to stop them.

Ignoring the violent and aggressive stuff and just focusing on the non-violent stuff is not a good tactic. I expect better from you.

I will say that the Portland police have stepped up and helped clear out some of the bad stuff. Happy to see that. Hopefully them being more involved will help calm things down.

 

[camille70]

A narrative informed by actual abuse of power by this president:

- deporting people with no due process
- detaining citizens based on their appearance
-snatching students off our streets by masked agents
-calling the democratic party, and now No King's protesters, terrorists....

Basically SCOTUS has, "temporarily" at least, given permission to racially profile.

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5507125/the-supreme-court-clears-the-way-for-ice-agents-to-treat-race-as-grounds-for-immigration-stops

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2025-10-01/lawsuit-filed-against-immigration-authorities-after-u-s-citizens-arrested-in-raids

“DHS law enforcement uses ‘reasonable suspicion’ to make arrests,” Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement. “What makes someone a target for immigration enforcement is if they are illegally in the U.S. — NOT their skin color, race, or ethnicity." McLaughlin did not address why Venegas was detained twice even though he's a U.S. citizen.

People have been warning about NSPM 7.

MSN

The Terrifying New Memo Trump Could Use to Go After His Opposition

Donald Trump is upping his rhetoric about cracking down on anyone who opposes him, and his new NPSM-7 memo is a terrifying look at how he could do it.

www.rollingstone.com

The problem is that the vast majority of political violence of it is not coming from the places that Trump, via NSPM-7, is ordering federal law enforcement to look. The week before Trump’s new memo went out, the Department of Justice removed a report from its website that showed “the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the now-archived report reads. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

White House Deputy Press Secretary Abigail Jackson inadvertently cited similar statistics when she posted a chart with the headline, “Left-wing terrorism climbs to 30-year high” — a chart that shows that, since 2016, there have been almost four times as many attacks by right-wing terrorists as attacks by left-wingers.

But the same week as Trump’s speech, and amid the administration’s new crackdown, Kash Patel, the director of the FBI, announced that the agency has cut ties with both the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center — two of the nation’s leading anti-hate groups, devoted to combating anti-semitism and white nationalism, respectively. (This, after a lobbying campaign by a right-wing influencers.)