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Another look at the moon landing.

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But no one has ever come forward and said that it was all a lie, or a con.
Some of these men have since become Christians; born again believers who belong to the Truth and have the Spirit of Truth within them.
Charles Duke gives talks about his walk on the moon and has said that it was nowhere near as important as his walk with Jesus.
Is that a lie too? Would God allow the Gospel to be preached on the basis of a lie?
If anyone gave their lives to Christ as a result of hearing Duke's testimony, would it be valid if the testimony which moved them had been untrue?
Strong in him as I have stated you have your 18 astronauts and me has the Van Ellen’s Belt . They wouldn’t be giving any testimony if they’d gone through the Van Ellen’s Belt . They’d all be dead : )
 
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Strong in him as I have stated you have your 18 astronauts and me has the Van Ellen’s Belt . They wouldn’t be giving any testimony if they’d gone through the Van Ellen’s Belt . They’d all be dead : )
Not if they were protected from the radiation.
 
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Nonsense.
There was a race to get to the moon - the US and Russia were rivals.
You think the Russian leader, in 1969, said to Nixon - "ok, we'll let you make it look as though you got to the moon first. You can get all the praise, recognition and any awards or book deals which come from this. We don't mind if you make lots of money - it's a scam anyway."

Russia Finally Caught Them...​

https://rumble.com/v40n3m4-russia-finally-caught-them....html
 
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But it would not have been just the astronauts involved in lying if they didn't really go to the moon. Their families, friends and acquaintances, plus everybody else involved, so thousands of people, would need to be lying.
Well David certainly not all in the factories of the production lines needed to know they just built the parts. Like millions I once believed like you. Certainly some manning the computers must have known certainly some within Intel must have known . But some have come forth that worked on the project more so the rockets and have stated there no way the Apollo missions could have made it to the moon. How long did it take the Russians to admit to the Katayn massacre of which the Germans took the blame for some 45 yrs . Did any of the actual culprits come forth and confess . No only the Russian goverrment it finally under the Gorbachev government finally admitted to it but never the actual culprits that done the killing ever did . David I don’t know how many were in the know
 
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Not if they were protected from the radiation.
But they weren’t and there is still no known safe method to accommodate that 3 hour trial by radiation today
 
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Strong in him as I have stated you have your 18 astronauts and me has the Van Ellen’s Belt . They wouldn’t be giving any testimony if they’d gone through the Van Ellen’s Belt . They’d all be dead : )
No, they wouldn't.

I have already posted a link to an article which disproves that the moon landing was a hoax.
Here it is again:

Notice the following:
Some people don't believe in the space shuttle and the missions to the Moon because they think the journey itself was impossible because of something called the Van Allen belts.
The Van Allen belts are huge belts of radiation that surround the Earth. It's been claimed that humans would not be able to pass through these belts without being subjected to lethal doses of radiation.
Radiation sickness occurs when you have been exposed to around 200 to 1000 'rads' of radiation within a few hours.
Two giant swaths of radiation, known as the Van Allen Belts, surrounding Earth were discovered in 1958. In 2012, a third belt was found
The Apollo 11 crew were within the belts for less than two hours during their journey to the Moon, and so would have only been exposed to an estimated 18 rads - well within the safe limit.
Nasa made sure that the spacecraft was well-insulated so actually the average dose of radiation over the 12-day mission was just 0.18 rads - similar to a chest X-ray.
 
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But they weren’t and there is still no known safe method to accommodate that 3 hour trial by radiation today
Well, there seems no way of convincing you, as you don't believe that the moon landings happened, so it is no use me pointing out that none of the astronauts suffered from the effects of radiation.
 
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If you were driving along the M4 at night, would you take your eyes off the road to look at the stars in the sky? Of course not! I have obviously never been in a spacecraft, but I imagine tat controlling it, monitoring it, and keeping up communication with your fellow astronauts, and with Houston, would require all your attention, possibly more than driving a car along the motorway.
David that does not make sense. Was orbiting around the moon like a M4 highway other vehicles zooming by ever few seconds. Michael Collins was in moon obit for 22 hours all by himself and he certianly must have slept with no one at wheel
 
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You realize he was just asking a question?
That he was just expressing doubts abut their first landing - which had happened about 50 years before?

He did not come out with any evidence which said, "this was a fraud".
And why would he have done since, according to you, he was part of the scam and not only knew, but agreed with it?

Do you ever read the stuff you post?
 
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David that does not make sense. Was orbiting around the moon like a M4 highway other vehicles zooming by ever few seconds. Michael Collins was in moon obit for 22 hours all by himself and he certianly must have slept with no one at wheel
I agree there was no other "traffic", but he certainly would have had other things to occupy his attention. Unlike the supposed motorway driver, for Michael Collins, orbiting the moon would have been a completely new experience.
 
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No, they wouldn't.

I have already posted a link to an article which disproves that the moon landing was a hoax.
Here it is again:

Notice the following:
Do you know how radiation works anything made of steel attracts radiation like a bee hive it would have been all through the module . You say two hours ? Try 3 hours . Again they had no protection that could have protected them from such a fatal ordeal. Their space suite had certain elements of metal in them as well
 
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What I was referring to was the fact that Apple Sky had said something about it being wrong for man to go up in a space rocket.
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I guess you will have to ask her about that.
 
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I agree there was no other "traffic", but he certainly would have had other things to occupy his attention. Unlike the supposed motorway driver, for Michael Collins, orbiting the moon would have been a completely new experience.
Yes But David he had 22 hours zooming around the moon . Why is it such a crime to look out the window ? : ) I’m sure he had certain things he had to do but I sought of think he had a good two hours to gaze at his own leisure and probably some time more to gaze upon the universe while he was doing other activities that’s if they ever made it to the moon. But when thinking upon the M4. I did just discover the Jetsons zooming off to the moon. So David there might be moon 4 highway traffic after all . Guess Michael Collins will have to keep his hand on the wheel at all times : )
 
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Do you know how radiation works anything made of steel attracts radiation like a bee hive it would have been all through the module . You say two hours ? Try 3 hours . Again they had no protection that could have protected them from such a fatal ordeal. Their space suite had certain elements of metal in them as well

Maybe the Van Allen Belts are God's way of saying ' We can go no further. '

2 Timothy 3:9 states that those who teach and spread false doctrine will not succeed in the end because their "folly will be manifest to all," just as the magicians Jannes and Jambres failed when they opposed Moses. The verse assures that their true nature and the emptiness of their message will become evident to everyone, and their efforts will ultimately fail.
 
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I personally do not believe in the van allen radiation belt. To do so, a person whould have to also believe there is an outer space where the sun, moon and stars are thousand's/ millions miles/light years away from a globe earth moving in an outer space.

So, there are no van allen radiation belts to get through to begin with.
 
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Maybe the Van Allen Belts are God's way of saying ' We can go no further. '

2 Timothy 3:9 states that those who teach and spread false doctrine will not succeed in the end because their "folly will be manifest to all," just as the magicians Jannes and Jambres failed when they opposed Moses. The verse assures that their true nature and the emptiness of their message will become evident to everyone, and their efforts will ultimately fail.
Apple I do think upon the great enlightenment offer given to our ancestral parents Adam & Eve . Partake and ye shall be as God . And so is the way of lucifer I shall ascend the heavens I shall be as God I shall be as the most high. The only future destination of lucifer shall be the lake of fire. Man was created for the earth and not for the universe. And I saw a new heavens and a new new earth and with the God dwelling with people ❤️
 
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I personally do not believe in the van allen radiation belt. To do so, a person whould have to also believe there is an outer space where the sun, moon and stars are thousand's/ millions miles/light years away from a globe earth moving in an outer space.

So, there are no van allen radiation belts to get through to begin with.

I agree, I were just thinking out aloud.
 
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Hentenza when thinking upon the witness testimony. You mention of the 12 astronauts that supposedly landed on the moon . I can think of a recent case where over 50 people many with high rank standing testified in a written and signed document by them all that the lap top from hell was mis information. Their testimony was accepted as truth by many . But it was finally realised that they had lied and that the computer did indeed belong to Hunter . So people do lie . Often under the oaths they have taken. I guess it comes down to this you have your 12 astronauts or 18 if we count the other 6 up yonder manning the module and I have Van Ellen’s Belt of which I call Mt Impassable before me. 6 hours of radiation all up 3 hours each way. Honey to me that’s a long time to fry
There is absolutely no evidence of a mass (in the millions) deception. There is no testimony under oath that NASA faked the lunar landings. The proof though is absolute that they indeed landed in the moon. The telemetry signal from the Apollo missions was not encrypted so thousands of scientists and amateurs alike were tracking the mission Including the Russians. We are talking about a global network of independent observers. All of these track a signal coming from the moon not a signal coming from earth. This would have been easy to determine.

Secondly, crossing the Van Allen Belt takes 53 minutes not 6 hours. The Apollo astronauts crossed it at ballistic speeds, with shielding, and at the weaker, upper portion. All crewed missions from Apollo 8 to Apollo 17 crossed the Van Allen belt.
 
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