law discussions belong in the law/sabbath area, or controvertial.

[Abraham1st]

This is separate to remind Jerusalem of the new FAITHFUL covenant...


Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the Lord, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the Lord.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the Lord, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

 

[RandyPNW]

Randy says that there is goodness in all, in a delayed or unrecognised manner. That would be fine, but once the testimony of Christ was told to the world, the commandment to repent was given to all men, so the sin that became death was unbelief.

I don't know why you spend so much time gathering up passages of Scripture just to condemn Israel? What Israel experienced was an example for the world. If Israel backslid, and she did, then Christian nations have done the same.

The idea is to bring out another option--the option of Grace. When people repent by the Gospel they can escape the judgment that fell upon Israel and that now falls upon the world. That is what we should focus upon.

I don't think Israel or Jerusalem is the "Mother of Harlots" indicated in Rev 17. I think that role belongs to Rome, which was Christianized early in NT history. Rome has gone down the same path that Israel did, gradually and intermittently turning to compromise and gross sin. Certainly in the time of the Reformation Catholic abuses in Rome turned very ugly. And though things have improved over the course of the last number of centuries I think things may turn ugly again.

When Rome and Europe turns to the Antichrist the true Church will have to go underground for a short time. That will not just be an Israeli thing--it will be a Europe-wide thing, I believe.

Anyway, yes, I think all men were created with the capacity to do genuine good things. We see them every day. Even non-Christians can do good works--how can that be doubted?

But justification is what you mentioned, and I agree that despite all the good works men do they cannot be justified unless they turn to Christ for Grace. We are justified by faith in what Christ did and by faith in what he gives us by his mercy.

The environment in the world today has been breaking out in a fit of antiSemitism. Let's not involve ourselves in that ugly spirit. Why should we criticize the victims rather than the oppressors?

 

[ARBITER01]

I don't have any hostility with respect to you or this subject, but you offer one final argument which I don't believe should go unanswered for any who may read this thread in the future. Your argument is that Jesus and the apostles kept the Sabbath Law throughout the New Covenant. I have answered this before, and will answer it again.

1) Jesus, during his earthly ministry, upheld the total number of requirements under the Law of Moses because this was before the cross, and when the Law of Moses was still in effect. Jesus keeping the Sabbath at this time, therefore, has zero bearing on this issue.

2) The Apostles kept the Sabbath after the cross because they were Jews, and naturally followed the tradition they had been raised with and the tradition prevalent among the Jewish People. It was a cultural tradition as much as it had been law under the Old Covenant. Keeping Sabbath observance is not the same thing as keeping Sabbath Law.

3) Paul taught that it was acceptable to observe the cultural traditions of people among whom evangelists and ministers of the Gospel have to work. They are cultural traditions and not endorsements of any law associated with those traditions. Paul made it clear that Christians are not under any law to observe religious days. They simply attempted to "fit in" with various cultures in order to not let peripheral matters become a stumbling block or impediment to the Gospel ministry among those peoples.

Let me be clear that I have Scriptures to back this up because repeatedly I've been told, falsely, that I do not use Scriptures to back up my claims. The main passage of Scripture I've been asked to focus on was Matt 5, where Jesus clarified that the *entire Law* was required at that time with all of the requirements, and not just some--not just the 10 Commandments or Sabbath Law, but all 613 or so requirements specified under the Law. And this would certainly include the 10 Commandments and Sabbath Law because they were all given to Israel at Horeb at the same time. Here are some of the appropriate passages in closing out my arguments here...

Mal 4.4 “Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel."

Deut 4.10 Remember the day you stood before the Lord your God at Horeb, when he said to me, “Assemble the people before me to hear my words so that they may learn to revere me as long as they live in the land and may teach them to their children.” 11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness. 12 Then the Lord spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice. 13 He declared to you his covenant, the Ten Commandments, which he commanded you to follow and then wrote them on two stone tablets. 14 And the Lord directed me at that time to teach you the decrees and laws you are to follow in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess.
5.1 Moses summoned all Israel and said:
Hear, Israel, the decrees and laws I declare in your hearing today. Learn them and be sure to follow them. 2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. 3 It was not with our ancestors that the Lord made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today. 4 The Lord spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain. 5 (At that time I stood between the Lord and you to declare to you the word of the Lord, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.) And he said:
6 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
7 “You shall have no other gods before me....
30 “Go, tell them to return to their tents. 31 But you stay here with me so that I may give you all the commands, decrees and laws you are to teach them to follow in the land I am giving them to possess....”
32 So be careful to do what the Lord your God has commanded you; do not turn aside to the right or to the left. 33 Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess.

Here, the day Israel approached Horeb, or Mt. Sinai, the Old Covenant was linked as covenant, represented by the 10 Commandments, to the entire sets of laws, as the agreement between God and Israel. The fact the 10 Commandments are separated as a subset of the entire Law is no different than distinguishing food laws or laws of feasts from the entire set of laws. They are all part of the same Covenant, the Old Covenant given to Israel at Horeb. The 10 Commandments merely represented, symbolically, the entire Covenant as a kind of moral summary of the Law at that time. (Matt 19.16-22)

That Jesus was under the Old Covenant at the time he gave the Sermon on the Mt. is clear from the following...

Matt 5.17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Please note two things here...
1) Jesus had come to confirm the Law as still in place during his earthly ministry.
2) Jesus had come to bring the observance of the Law to the point of being fulfilled *in himself.*

We later read in Matthew that fulfilling this Law entailed Jesus going to the cross, where the veil was rent, indicating that the requirements of the Law were no longer necessary to achieve access to God. Christ had become the sole means of access to God.

Matt 27.51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.

Heb 9.8 The Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still functioning.

Paul accepted the cultural practice of things that were not law for Christians but were law for those in Judaism...

1 Cor 9.20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.

Very well said!

 

[Abraham1st]

I don't know why you spend so much time gathering up passages of Scripture just to condemn Israel? What Israel experienced was an example for the world. If Israel backslid, and she did, then Christian nations have done the same.

The idea is to bring out another option--the option of Grace. When people repent by the Gospel they can escape the judgment that fell upon Israel and that now falls upon the world. That is what we should focus upon.

I don't think Israel or Jerusalem is the "Mother of Harlots" indicated in Rev 17. I think that role belongs to Rome, which was Christianized early in NT history. Rome has gone down the same path that Israel did, gradually and intermittently turning to compromise and gross sin. Certainly in the time of the Reformation Catholic abuses in Rome turned very ugly. And though things have improved over the course of the last number of centuries I think things may turn ugly again.

When Rome and Europe turns to the Antichrist the true Church will have to go underground for a short time. That will not just be an Israeli thing--it will be a Europe-wide thing, I believe.

Anyway, yes, I think all men were created with the capacity to do genuine good things. We see them every day. Even non-Christians can do good works--how can that be doubted?

But justification is what you mentioned, and I agree that despite all the good works men do they cannot be justified unless they turn to Christ for Grace. We are justified by faith in what Christ did and by faith in what he gives us by his mercy.

The environment in the world today has been breaking out in a fit of antiSemitism. Let's not involve ourselves in that ugly spirit. Why should we criticize the victims rather than the oppressors?

If you don't know anything, read again what I am about to post to all on this thread in these forums.

 

[Abraham1st]

Anyone got any wisdom, any understanding on these forums, on this particular thread ?

Look below at John 8, and see if anyone can understand the reason why the Pharisees of the law, brought a woman to Jesus to be stoned, and why Jesus wrote on the ground, AS THOUGH HE DIDNT HEAR THEM ? The first simple answer is because The Pharisees we have it testified, did not HEAR MOSES AND THE PROPHETS. ( so would not be persuaded though one rose from the dead. Would not be persuaded by faith.) So LIKEWISE, Jesus does NOT HEAR THEM. The next testimony is that we have it testified again, against the Pharisees or those under the law, that God does NOT HEAR SINNERS. Jesus continues to reveal they are indeed those sinners who are not heard, as all were CONVICTED BY THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE, when Jesus answered to them, that they are WITH SIN.



Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If TEY HEAR NOT MOSES AND THE PROPHETS, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

John 9:31 Now WE KNOW THAT GOD HEARETH NOT SINNERS: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

John 8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

John 8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, AS THEY HE HEARD THEM NOT.

John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, HE THAT IS WITHOUT SIN AMONG YOU, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And THEY WHICH HEARD IT, BEING CONVICTED BY THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.



What did it also mean that these of the LAW WERE CONVICTED OF THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE ?

It means that is why the Sprit expressly spoke about the latter times, how men DEPART FROM THE FAITH, hearing seducing spirits and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS, SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY, and having THEIR CONSCIENCE SEARED WITH A HOT IRON. ( unlike the Pharisees who were CONVICTED BY THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE by what Jesus answered them.)

Jesus had corrected those under the law, to not do as Moses had commanded in the law, to stone a woman taken in adultery to death.

Now we know that these are now DEPARTED FROM THE FAITH, with a devils doctrine/SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY. What s testified is them taking control of men, they forbid to marry, and they COMMAND ( NOTICE HOW MANY ON THIS FORUM TEACH TO KEEP COMMANDMENTS AS THEIR DOCTRINE.) to abstain from meats. ( also testified that this is against those WHICH BELIEVE, and KNOW THE TRUTH.)

If we put the brothers in memory/understanding of these things, we are being a GOOD minister of Jesus Christ, NOURISHED up in the word of FAITH, and GOOD doctrine. ( not heading those doctrines of DEVILS.)

Instead we are to give all focus on reading, exhortation ( like this says in the faith) and to doctrine ( GOOD.) to meditate upon those things, and t give ourselves wholly to them, to TAKE HEED unto yourself, and unto the doctrine, and to continue in THEM, to SAVE BOTH YOURSELF, and THOSE WHO HEAR YOU. ( unlike the Pharisees of the law not heard by God, and these who depart the faith who do not hear Christ.)

The word is to be preached, to reprove these ones, to rebuke them, with all longsuffering and doctrine, the time came ( before Christ Jesus will judge the quick and the dead at His appearing and His Kingdom.) when they will NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE, but with their own lusts heap to themselves these TEACHERS, ( with DOCTRINES OF DEVILS..) to turn away their ears from the truth unto fables. But we are to WATCH IN ALL THINGS, to endure afflictions, to make full proof of our ministry.




1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM THE FAITH, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY; having THEIR CONSCIENCE3 SEARED WITH A HOT IRON;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

1 Timothy 4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a GOOD minister of Jesus Christ, NOURISHED UP IN THE WORDS OF FAITH and of GOOD DOCTRINE, whereunto thou hast attained.

1 Timothy 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
15 Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.
16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves TEACHERS, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.


Now these people do not have the Spirit by promoting doctrines of devils and by departing from the faith. ( as was foretold to be with COMMANDMENTS of men.) But those who make full proof of their ministry have the Spirit of revelation. Turning to fables, is what was predicted to happen, and it is happening as if it is a good thing on the FORUMS.

It was testified in this very thread, ( began by me to try to stop law discussion.) that nobody without Christ in them can have morals, as they are then REPROBATES. That was ignored completely and also attempted to be answered back. ( that would prove if anyone was in the FAITH. 2 Corinthians 13:5.)

Now look at the REVELATION, God has given them over to a REPROBATE MIND, to do those things NOT CONVENIENT, and are filled with all that unrighteousness is, ( unrighteousness is not the transgression of the law to those who are in Christ Jesus, as what is NOT OF FAITH IS SIN..1 John 3:3-10. Romans 14:23. John 8:24.) with wickedness covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, DEBATE, DECEIT, MALIGNITY, ( causing harm/division) by being despiteful, proud, boasters, INVENTERS OF EVIL THINGS, IMPLACABLE, ( wont ever be corrected.) they know the judgement of God that if anyone COMMITED these things, they are WORTH OF DEAATH, they do them and have PLEASURE IN THOSE WHO DO THEM. ( instead of having pleasure as God does when we have FAITH and DILLIGENTLY SEEK HIM. Hebrews 11:6.)




Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a REPROBATE MIND, to DO THOSE THINGS which are not convenient;
29 BEING FILLED WITH ALL unrighteousness, fornication, WICKEDNESS, COVETOUSNESS, MALICIOUSNESS; FULL OF envy, murder, DEBATE, DECEIT, MALIGNITY; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, DESPITEFUL, PROUD, BOASTERS, INVENTERS OF EVIL THINGS, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, IMPLACABLE, unmerciful:
32 Who KNOWING THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD, that they which COMMIT SUCH THINGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH, not only DO THE SAME, but HAVE PLEASURE IN THEM THAT DO THEM.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.




That was one revelation of who is reprobate, the next. We saw how the time had come for men to not endure sound doctrine, but to be TURNED UNTO FABLES. ( heaping to themselves these teachers/with doctrines of devils.)

This continues in Timothy, how we are exhorted not to give HEED UNTO FABLES, they minister QUESTIONS/DEBATE, rather than GODLY EDIFYING WHICH IS IN FAITH. The commandment ( of faith.) is CHARITY, out of a PURE HEART, ( hearts purified by FAITH. Acts 15:9.) and of a GOOD CONSCIENCE, of FAITH unfeigned. ( these teaching law in the latter times have their CONSCIENCE SEARED WITH A HOT IRON.)

Some swerved FROM THE FAITH, and turned ASIDE unto VAIN JANGLING, DESIRING TO BE TEACHERS OF THE LAW, and are seen to not understand what they say nor what they affirm. ( DO THOSE SAME TEACHERS OF THE LAW ON THESE FORUMS EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT SIN IS, OR WHAT REPROBATE/TO BE WITHOUT MORALS IS ? The answer to both is to be without the Faith of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is THEIR DOCTRINE. )

The law is made for the unrighteous man, when 1 John 3, as told so many times, is not for men any longer under the law, as it testifies of being righteous with Christ IN YOU. ( in FAITH and NOT UNDER ANY LAW/as WITHOUT LAW.)

We are enabled and counted FAITHFUL, to obtain mercy when we do in ignorance by UNBELIEF, ( not with faith and under any law, which is what transgression of the law is.) to receive the GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with faith and love.




Acts 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

1 Timothy 1:4 NEITHER GIVE HEED UNTO FABLES and endless genealogies, WHICH MINISTER QUESTIONS, rather THAN GODLY EDIFYING WHICH IS IN FAITH: so do.
5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

1 Timothy 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.


1 Timothy 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.


1 Timothy 1:12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.



That is how to draw near to God, in FULL ASSURANCE OF FAITH, having our hearts SPRINKLED from an EVIL CONSCIENCE.

Now we are saved, by the ANSWER OF A GOOD CONSCIENCE towards God, BY ( FAITH.) in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who is gone into heaven and is on the right hand of God. ( angels and authorities and powers being MADE SUBJECT unto HIM..)



Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

 

[Abraham1st]

One more reminder, as for some reason it has to be spoken and then believed, that we see good done by all sorts of people, whatever brand of Christi\n they are, or those of law or those who are of other religions entirely, or atheist.

Now of course the Pharisees are an example of doing wrong to the world, all know that, right ? ( this gospel is the testimony by which we are saved by, or we fall by not believing in what is testified by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, to all the world.)

So take note, their WORKS, are seeming like GOOD WORKS, but they are NOT. ALL THEIR WORKS THEY DO, TO BE SEEN OF MEN.

What else do these who are the example of DECEIT, to the world, and to NOT BE DECEIVED BY THEM ?

They APEAR RIGHTEOUS UNTO MEN, but in their heart, within, they are FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND INIQUITY. ( hypocrisy for believing in and following lies, and iniquity which is UNBELIEF, and all who do not BELIEVE in Christ ( that He is Lord and Saviour.) SHALL DIE IN THEIR SINS.




John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Matthew 23:2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

 

[Abraham1st]

All prophecy contained within the scripture, is not of ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. The will of man wont reveal the interpretation, anyone who speaks, has to speak as moved by the Holy Ghost.



2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.



This posting, is in relation to a mystery, of who the mother of harlots is referred to, in Revelation 17:5. There are many conflicting interpretations, and most are outside of scripture, but seeing as the mystery comes inside scripture, inside scripture we will remain. ( for the interpretation.) Will the rest of the interpretations still be relevant, if all is understood from the scriptures themselves, that Holy men of God spoke those scriptures as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, and then in turn understood by those who also have faith to believe in the same scriptures . If anyone is reading, bear with it, as it will all be relevant in the end.

First I will tell of a pattern to watch out for and to see, it is linked also to the mystery of godliness and in turn to the mystery of iniquity, opposing mysteries which counterbalance one another. ( 1 Timothy 3:16. 2 Thessalonians 2:7.)


Focus now on Ezekiel, and the cause to let JERUSALEM to know HER ABOMINATKIONS.

Jerusalem is shown her beginning, the mother being a Hittite.

God recalls the clothing He gave to Jerusalem, broidered work, fine linen, covered her with silk, decked her with ornaments, bracelets upon her hands, and a chain upon her neck, a JEWEL ON HER FOREHEAD, earrings in her ears, and a beautiful crown UPON HER HEAD. She was thus decked with gold and silver, and her clothing swas of fine linen and silk, broidered work, exceeding beautiful and prospered into a kingdom. Her fame went into the heathen, for her beauty, which was PERFECT through the Lords comeliness. Jerusalem trusted in her own beauty. ( went about to ESTABLISH her own righteousness. Romans 10:3.)


Revelation 17:5 And upon HER FOREHEAD was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The GREAT, The MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Ezekiel 16:2 Son of man, cause JERUSALEM TO KNOW HER ABOMINATIONS,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.

Ezekiel 16:10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12 And I put a JEWEL ON THY FOREHEAD, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.
15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.



Fornication was committed with the Egyptians by Jerusalem, and with the Assyrians, and the fornication of JERUSALEM went into the land of Chaldea. ( TO BABYLON the land of the Chaldeans. Daniel 5:7.) That is testified by the Lord to be THE WORK OF AN IMPERIOUS WHORISH WOMAN. ( BY JERUSALEM EVEN INTO BABYLON.)




Ezekiel 16:26 Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.
27 Behold, therefore I have stretched out my hand over thee, and have diminished thine ordinary food, and delivered thee unto the will of them that hate thee, the daughters of the Philistines, which are ashamed of thy lewd way.
28 Thou hast played the harlot also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied.
29 Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied therewith.
30 How weak is thine heart, saith the Lord God, seeing thou doest all these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman;



God declares with fury poured out He will rule over Jerusalem, and will gather Jerusalem from the countries she was scattered to after HIs fury is poured out, and will bring Jerusalem INTO THE WILDERNESS of the people, and there will plead with Jerusalem. The Lord causes Jerusalem to pass through the rod, and bring JERUSALEM into the BOND OF THE COIVENANT. God purges out from among Jerusalem those who rebel and transgress against Him, they do not re-enter and they shall know that He is the Lord.


Ezekiel 20:33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I WILL BRING YOU INTO THE WILDERNESS OF THE PEOPLE, and THERE WILL I PLEAD WITH YOU FACE TO FACE.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I WILL CAUSE YOU TO PASS UNDER THE ROD, and I WILL BRING YOU INTO THE BOND OF THE COVENANT:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.




Jerusalem has ben testified its LEWDNESS AND ABOMINATIONS, and God deals with Jerusalem as she had done, in despising the oath in BREAKING THE COVENANT. God remembers HIs covenant with her in the days of her youth, and ESTABLISHES unto Jerusalem an everlasting COVENANT, remembering her own ways she is ASHAMED. ( ashamed in the law without faith. Isaiah 8:13-18/29:22./45:17. Mark 8:38. Romans 9:33.)



Ezekiel 16:58 Thou hast borne thy lewdness and thine abominations, saith the Lord.
59 For thus saith the Lord God; I will even deal with thee as thou hast done, which hast despised the oath in breaking the covenant.
60 Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
61 Then thou shalt remember thy ways, and be ASHAMED, when thou shalt receive thy sisters, thine elder and thy younger: and I will give them unto thee for daughters, but not by thy covenant.
62 And I will establish my covenant with thee; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord:
63 That thou mayest remember, and be confounded, and never open thy mouth any more because of thy SHAME, when I am pacified toward thee for all that thou hast done, saith the Lord God.



Are two patterns immerging, one of the flesh and one of the Spirit ?

One was that first covenant, it did not continue, it was the opposite to holiness by Jerusalem, it was instead abomination. That is what we are tracing, to see what testimony was given by the Lord against Jerusalem, and if Jerusalem is the mother of harlots. ( in the mystery told in Revelation 17.)

We see this sprang from Abraham, the beginning of the Hebrews, before there were Hebrews in Jerusalem, ( as Jerusalem was before the Hebrews. Joshua 10:1.) and we see when a division was made, ( again this was before there was a Jerusalem of the Hebrews, also before the law was given which was four hundred and thirty years after the promise was given to Abraham,)

Abraham then had two sons by two different women, this is the testimony and will of God, two paths separate from here, even TWO COVENANTS, one of bondage which is JERUSALEM which is now, in the flesh, and the other is GREAT JERUSALEM which comes down from God out of HEAVEN. ( we have so far, GREAT BABYLON AND GREAT JERUSALEM, according to Revelation 17:5 and 21:10. Also we have Jerusalem which is after the flesh, and we have Babylon which is the same.) Jerusalem which is above ( coming down from God our of heaven.) is the MOTHER OF US ALL. As written in Isaiah 54:1, the desolate who had no husband, now has more children than she which has. ( as those of the promise and by faith, are married to their Maker faithfully.)

The separation is made distinct, the bondwoman is cast out and her son, who shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. ( Jerusalem that is not by faith, and a broken covenant that was not kept/honoured by faith, is separated from.




Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

Galatians 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that GREAT CITY, the holy JERUSALEM, descending OUT OF HEAVEN from God,




Lets move on to wonders that appeared. A WOMAN, ( remember in the pattern there are two ways to notice, we saw the mother of harlots, BABYLON THE GREAT, now we see another GREAT wonder, a woman. We also saw who was the mother of all in faith, and we saw who is the mother of those born after the flesh.)

This woman has a crown of twelve stars. ( of the twelve tribes of Israel.) She is with child ready to be delivered. A corresponding wonder appears at the same time, a GREAT red dragon, ( it cant be unnoticed, of Babylon the GREAT, of Jerusalem that GREAT City, of the GREAT wonder of the woman, and of the other wonder in heaven, a GREAT red dragon. Notice they are the two separations described in two different unions, one ff the flesh and with the devil, and one of the Spirit and with God.)




Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.



This great woman brought forth the man child who rules all nations with a ROD OF IRON, caught up to God and to His throne.

See now that the woman FLED into the WILDERNESS. Remember earlier, God pleaded with those of Jerusalem in the WILDERNESS of the people, and had passed them under the ROD, and this is bringing Jerusalem from above into the bond of the covenant. ( Ezekiel 20:33-38.)

Michael ( Jesus Christ the child caught up unto God and to His throne. ) and angels fight against the dragon and angels and the GREAT dragon was cast out, the old serpent, the devil, satan, who deceives the whole world.

The dragon saw he was cast out of heaven, ( which is the sepearation of the Jerusalem from above and that which s in bondage with her children>) then the dragon PERSECUTES THE WOMAN. ( the woman is Jerusalem which is from above/the mother of us all.) who brought forth the man child, the woman escapes into the WILDERNESS. ( WHERE GOD BRINGS JERUSALEM THERE TO PLEA WITH HER, AND TO BRING HER INTO THE BOND OF THE COVENANT.)

The serpent casts out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, to cause her to be carried away of the flood. The earth helped, ( in the wilderness where God pleaded and brought her into the bond of the covenant.) and the earth opened her mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. The dragon is then angry with the woman, and goes to make war with the REMNANT of her SEED, which keep the commandments of God and have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ. ( see also how Korah and all his company were swallowed up by the earth opening her mouth. Numbers 16:32. Also i wont go into the seven times/2520 days/years where the woman was fed right now., that's the times of the \gentiles and Jerusalem to be trodden down Luke 21:24.)



Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.



We saw the dragon cast out his mouth as a flood, now we see the beast given the power by the dragon, coms from the sea. ( this we will see is the beast the WOMAN WHO IS BABYLON THE GREAT riding.)



Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.



Now we focus on an angel having the everlasting gospel to preach, to all people, to fear God, to give Him glory, as the hour of HIs JUDGEMENT is come. To worship Him that made the heavens and the earth and the SEA, and the fountains of WATERS. Another angel follows saying, BABYLON IS FALLEN, THAT GREAT CITY, she made all nations drink of the wine of the WRATH of her FORNICATION.



Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

 

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John sees a white cloud, and one like the Son of man, ( the man child caught up to God and to HIs throne/MIchael.)having a sharp sickle. Another angel comes out of the temple and ells the Son of man to thrust in HIs sickle and reap, the time had come to reap, the harvest of the earth was ripe.

Another angel comes out of the temple which is in heaven, and having a sharp sickle and was cried to by another angel who came out from the alter and had power over fire, to thrust in his sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, her grapes were fully ripe, and the angel thrst in his sharp sinckle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the GREAT winepress of the WRATH of God. (two kinds gathered, first the good int vessels, then cast the bad away. ( Matthew 13:47-50.)



Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Matthew 13:47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.



In the seven last plagues are filled up the WRATH of God. ( as we just saw in Revelation 14:19.) John sees the SEA of glass mingled with FIRE, the fire as it is them who had gotten the victory over the beast, STAND on the SEA of glass. They sing the song of Moses and the song of the Lamb,ad who shall not fear the Lord, and glorify HIs name, for only He ( Christ) is holy, His JUDGEMENTS are made manifest.




Revelation 15: 1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Revelation 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy JUDGEMENTS are made manifest.


Remembering that Jerusalem in her new covenant was to never speak again and be ASHAMED, we har the same exhortation from Christ here, for us to watch, or we will be naked and they see our SHAME. ( by not BELIEVING, FAITH AND NOT LAW, THE WHOLE WORLD IS FOLLOWING LAW/IS DECEIVED.)

All then are gathered unto Armageddon, the SEVENTH angel pours out his vial into the air, and a GREAT voice out of the temple of heaven, from the Throne saying, it is done. The GREAT city was DIVIDED, the cities of the nations fell, and GREAT BABYLON coms into REMEMBRANCE before God, to give HER, the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.



Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.



John is shown by one of the seven angels who had the seven vials, the JUDGEMENT of the GREAT harlot, that sits upon MANY WATERS. ( Isaiah 60:5.)and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the people of the earth were made drunk with the wine of HER fornication. ( which is LAW and not FAITH.)

The WOMAN sits upon the beast, in the WILDERNESS, ( where the Lord pleaded with Jerusalem and brought her into the bond of the covnant. Ezekiel 20:35-37.) the woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, decked with gold and precious stones and pearls. ( as Jerusalem caused by the Lord to know her ABOMINATIONS WAS. Ezekiel 16:13.) the woman had a golden cup in her hand FULL of ABOMINATIONS and filthiness of HER FORNICATION. Upon FOREHEAD a name written, MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, the MOTHER of harlots and ABOMINATIONS of THE EARTH. The woman was drunken with the blood of the SAINTS, and with the blood of the MARTYRS of Jesus, ( Jerusalem was caused to know her AIOMINATIONS, and was given a chain on her forehead by the Lord. Ezekiel 16:2/12.)



Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters:
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the WILDERNESS and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.



The MYSTERY of the WOMAN, the harlot sits where there are WATERS, THESE ARE PEOPLE, NARIONS AND TONGUES, the WOMAN which John saw is that GREAT city, which rules over the kings of the EARTH. ( Jerusalem in bondage with her children of the EARTH/the flesh, and not Jerusalem from above/heaven which does not reign over the kings of the earth, it rules over heaven, MAKING us kings and priests NTO KOUR GOD, and we shall REIGN on the EARTH. Revelation 5:10..)



Revelation17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.



Another angel comes DOWN FROM HEAVEN, having GREAT power, the EARTH is LIGHTENED with HIS GLORY. He cried mightily with a STRONG voice, Babylon the GREAT is fallen, and become the habitation of devils, all nations have drunk of the wine of the WRATH of HER FORNICATION, the kings of the EARTH have committed FORNCATION with HER, another voice from HEAVEN is heard saying, to come out of HER, people, to not be partaker of HER sins, HER sins have reached unto HEAVEN, God has remembered HER INIQUITIES. ( law, and not faithfulness.)

She glorified HERSELF ( Jerusalem sought their own glory. Romans 10:3. Notice no testimony in the gospel or the epistles, or anywhere else in the new testament, is about Babylon, all is ENTIRELY about Jerusalem/Israel.)) SHE says in her heart she sists as a queen, and was no widow, and shall see no sorrow. ( Jerusalem of the law who was told their covenant is broken, they are a widow and had to have a new covenant but REFUSED, as do all following LAW.) So her plagues come in a day by the STRONG Lord God who judges HER. The kings who committed fornication with her say, alas that GREAT city, Babylon, in ONE HOUR is thy JUDGEMENT come.




Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Revelation 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.



If there was any doubt that this is Jerusalem, see the final words of judgement, in HER was found the BLOOD OF PROPHETS, and of SAINTS, and of ALL THAT WERE SLAIN upon the EARTH.

The PROPHETS were sent to Jerusalem, wise men and scribes, some they killed and crucified, that upon JERUSALEM may come ALL THE RIGHTEOUS BLOOD SHED UPON THE EARTH. JERUSALEM, JERUSALEM, HER that killed the PROPHETS, and stond them who were sent unto you, the house of Jerusalem is left DESOLATE. They shall not see Him until they shall say, blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord.




Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.





All the prophets testify how this is Jerusalem, a SEED of EVIL doers, laden with INIWUITY. ( law and faithlessness.)

Except the Lord had left a very small remnant they had been as Sodom. So hear the word of the Lord you rulers of SODOM. ( this is to know that Babylon is indeed Jerusalem in the mystery.) and give ear you people of GOMORRAH. ( people of Babylon the great.)

THE FAITHFUL CITY IS BECOME A HARLOT. ( Babylon the great the mother of harlots and also is named as SODOM..)

God puts HIs hand against Jerusalem and purifies them ( by faith) and afterwards the CITY WILL BE CALLED THE CITY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE FAITHFUL CITY.

Zion redeemed with this JUDGEMENT, HER converts with righteousness. ( their righteousness is of the Lord. Isaiah 54:17.) this is also the destruction of the transgressors and sinners. ( those who are not of faith and are in law as the world are now.)



Romans 9:29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

Isaiah 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.

Isaiah 1:4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

Isaiah 1:8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
9 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

Isaiah 1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

Isaiah 1:25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:
26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed.

 

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Now it may make more sense why we have the testimony both in old and the new testament, about Babylon is fallen, is fallen. hat which is heard of the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, is declared unto you.

Virgin daughter of Babylon, has her nakedness discovered, her shame seen, ( with aw and not faith) she will sit silent and no more be called the LADY OF KINGDOMS. God was angry with HIs people, and gave them into the hand of Babylon, who showed them no mercy. Babylon said she shall be a lady for ever, her that is given to pleasures and wells carelessly, that says in HER HEART, she is, and none beside her, she shall not SIT AS A WIDOW, nor kw the loss of children. Those two things come upon her IN A OMENT ( IN ONE HOUR.) the loss of children and widowhood. ( Jerusalem is married to the Lord when from above, this one of the earth/flesh is not and is a widow. Revelation 18:10.) trusting in her wickedness ,as Israel trusted in their own righteousness. Romans 10:3.)




Isaiah 21:9 And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.
10 O my threshing, and the corn of my floor: that which I have heard of the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, have I declared unto you.

Isaiah 47:1 Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
2 Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.
3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.
4 As for our redeemer, the Lord of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel.
5 Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.
6 I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.
7 And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.
8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:
9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.
10 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.





Here Babylon is testified to be the place Jerusalem is redeemed from.



Jeremiah 51:33 For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.
34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.
36 Therefore thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her springs dry.

Jeremia 51:41 How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised! how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations!
42 The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.

Jerusalem 51:44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the Lord.
46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the Lord.
49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth.
50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the Lord afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.

Jeremiah 51:55 Because the Lord hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:
56 Because the spoiler is come upon her, even upon Babylon, and her mighty men are taken, every one of their bows is broken: for the Lord God of recompences shall surely requite.

Jeremiah 51:60 So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that should come upon Babylon, even all these words that are written against Babylon.
61 And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, When thou comest to Babylon, and shalt see, and shalt read all these words;
62 Then shalt thou say, O Lord, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.
63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:
64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.

Micah 4:10 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Micah 4:6 In that day, saith the Lord, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;
7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.

Micah 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counsellor perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail.
10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the Lord shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.
11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.
12 But they know not the thoughts of the Lord, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.
13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the Lord, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.