Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

[Desk trauma]

<looks at all the Muslim countries not at war with "infidels">

Do tell.

I don’t know how you could have forgotten when the Indonesian navy steamed north and bombarded the west coast.

 

[friend of]

<looks at all the Muslim countries not at war with "infidels">

Do tell.

You are ignorant of Islam and Sharia law. That much is clear.

 

[JosephZ]

You are ignorant of Islam and Sharia law. That much is clear.

Apparently the vast majority of Muslims in the world, including the more than 4 million in the US, are ignorant of what Islam teaches as well. Either that or mainstream Islam teaches that Shari'a prioritizes peace and coexistence over war, and that war is to be used only as a last resort for self-defense or to protect the oppressed. Having extensively studied the religion of Islam and lived in the company of Muslims for much of my life, I'm going with the latter.

 

[Belk]

You are ignorant of Islam and Sharia law. That much is clear.

Indeed. It is almost as if I don't glean my knowledge from random people claiming expertise on the interwebs.

 

[rjs330]

Apparently the vast majority of Muslims in the world, including the more than 4 million in the US, are ignorant of what Islam teaches as well. Either that or mainstream Islam teaches that Shari'a prioritizes peace and coexistence over war, and that war is to be used only as a last resort for self-defense or to protect the oppressed. Having extensively studied the religion of Islam and lived in the company of Muslims for much of my life, I'm going with the latter.

I most certainly agree that most Muslims are not the Islamist types. In fact many of them suffer under them.

It also cannot be argued rhat there are a great number of the Islamist types as well and rhey are very dangerous and everywhere. And its difficult to know who is and who isn't just on the face of it. We've seen in the UK what they do. We have them in the US as well.

We have entire cities becoming Islamic cities and natural born Americans told they aren't welcome there when they want to know about streets being named after known terrorists. That doesn't sound peaceful to me. Also complaints of the call to prayer at 5:30 in tye morning are being dismissed because its non-muslims.

That is just not right. Can you imagine if a Muslim person was told that by a white counselman or mayor?

Basically yes, most Muslims are decent people. There are radicals, Islamists, who are not. If there currently were Catholics committing the same atrocities around the world I think there would be a lot of people looking sideways at the Catholic Church.

I mean even today people bring up what the church was involved in almost 1000 years ago, even though rhe majority of Catholics didn't do those things.

Not trying to dump on all Muslims here. I know several of them where I live. They are good people and dislike rhe Islamists.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

What’s the “crime” though?

I guess you didnt watch the video

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

He wasn't nice the first the first time.

Compared to now he was lol!

 

[Desk trauma]

Compared to now he was lol!

Not an appreciable difference, he’s the same small vindictive petty man, but now without any adults in the room.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Hilary will definitely be in jail.

Why do you say that?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Not an appreciable difference, he’s the same small vindictive petty man, but now without any adults in the room.

No he is not taking crap from Dems anymore. He worked more across the aisle his first term. Look what that got him. He learned his lesson. He is vindictive now and he has a right to...he and the conservatives ARE the only adults in the room among the Dems...example the Schumer Shutdown.

 

[BCP1928]

I most certainly agree that most Muslims are not the Islamist types. In fact many of them suffer under them.

It also cannot be argued rhat there are a great number of the Islamist types as well and rhey are very dangerous and everywhere. And its difficult to know who is and who isn't just on the face of it. We've seen in the UK what they do. We have them in the US as well.

We have entire cities becoming Islamic cities and natural born Americans told they aren't welcome there when they want to know about streets being named after known terrorists. That doesn't sound peaceful to me. Also complaints of the call to prayer at 5:30 in tye morning are being dismissed because its non-muslims.

That is just not right. Can you imagine if a Muslim person was told that by a white counselman or mayor?

Basically yes, most Muslims are decent people. There are radicals, Islamists, who are not. If there currently were Catholics committing the same atrocities around the world I think there would be a lot of people looking sideways at the Catholic Church.

I mean even today people bring up what the church was involved in almost 1000 years ago, even though rhe majority of Catholics didn't do those things.

Not trying to dump on all Muslims here. I know several of them where I live. They are good people and dislike rhe Islamists.

I wonder if you would say the same thing if they were Jews who were critical of Israel and Zionism.

 

[Pommer]

What’s the “crime” though?

I guess you didnt watch the video

@ 2:00 even the news show doesn’t know what Comey was indicted for…let alone Clinton.

What’s the “crime”?

 

[JosephZ]

We have entire cities becoming Islamic cities and natural born Americans told they aren't welcome there when they want to know about streets being named after known terrorists. That doesn't sound peaceful to me.

That is just not right. Can you imagine if a Muslim person was told that by a white counselman or mayor?

Dearborn has a long history of "Christians" harassing the Muslim population. Frequent Qur'an burnings, terrorist attacks and threats, and even "Christian" missionaries showing up with a pig's head on a stake and calling Muslim children wicked, heathens, and dirtbags, among other things, during an Arab festival. So, while it was wrong for the mayor to tell someone they were not welcome in the city, it's understandable how that could happen when someone starts talking about a member of the community supporting terrorism. If you watch the video of the exchange, you will notice that it was a Christian member of the city council, Robert Abraham, that first interrupted Mr. Barham and told him that Osama Siblani didn't support violence and that they were not going to allow attacks on people in the community during the meeting.

Osama Siblani isn't a known terrorist, and the street in question wasn't renamed. There were honorary signs erected at a couple of street corners; that’s it. It was also Wayne County, and not the city of Dearborn, that approved the signs. Wayne County has less than a 20% Muslim population.

That doesn't sound peaceful to me.

Here's the response from the man who was told to leave the city:

Dearborn resident told he wasn't welcome hopes to see something positive come out of exchange

Addressing the mayor's remarks that he was unwelcome in the city, Barham called Dearborn the 'most hospitable, kind city' he's ever been in, drawing from his experiences living in the diverse, majority-Arab American community and his global travels, including a year in Lebanon and visits to Israel and Palestinian territories.

He also disagreed that Christian people are at risk of facing oppression in the U.S., pushing back against narratives amplified by some conservative commentators who framed the incident as evidence of anti-Christian sentiment in Dearborn...

He said the mayor has 'done a terrific job in many ways', specifically praising Hammoud’s leadership on community initiatives like funding playgrounds, despite their disagreement. Barham added that he wants to encourage love for Muslim people, consistent with his missionary work...

He expressed no intention of leaving Dearborn, stating he hoped the controversy would lead to positive outcomes, such as greater religious freedom and understanding between Christians and Muslims.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Dearborn has a long history of "Christians" harassing the Muslim population. Frequent Qur'an burnings, terrorist attacks and threats, and even "Christian" missionaries showing up with a pig's head on a stake and calling Muslim children wicked, heathens, and dirtbags, among other things, during an Arab festival. So, while it was wrong for the mayor to tell someone they were not welcome in the city, it's understandable how that could happen when someone starts talking about a member of the community supporting terrorism. If you watch the video of the exchange, you will notice that it was a Christian member of the city council, Robert Abraham, that first interrupted Mr. Barham and told him that Osama Siblani didn't support violence and that they were not going to allow attacks on people in the community during the meeting.

Osama Siblani isn't a known terrorist, and the street in question wasn't renamed. There were honorary signs erected at a couple of street corners; that’s it. It was also Wayne County, and not the city of Dearborn, that approved the signs. Wayne County has less than a 20% Muslim population.



Here's the response from the man who was told to leave the city:

Dearborn resident told he wasn't welcome hopes to see something positive come out of exchange

Addressing the mayor's remarks that he was unwelcome in the city, Barham called Dearborn the 'most hospitable, kind city' he's ever been in, drawing from his experiences living in the diverse, majority-Arab American community and his global travels, including a year in Lebanon and visits to Israel and Palestinian territories.

He also disagreed that Christian people are at risk of facing oppression in the U.S., pushing back against narratives amplified by some conservative commentators who framed the incident as evidence of anti-Christian sentiment in Dearborn...

He said the mayor has 'done a terrific job in many ways', specifically praising Hammoud’s leadership on community initiatives like funding playgrounds, despite their disagreement. Barham added that he wants to encourage love for Muslim people, consistent with his missionary work...

He expressed no intention of leaving Dearborn, stating he hoped the controversy would lead to positive outcomes, such as greater religious freedom and understanding between Christians and Muslims.

A post entirely made of whataboutism

 

[JosephZ]

A post entirely made of whataboutism

Adding context surrounding what took place in Dearborn so the member I was addressing might better understand the situation there isn't whataboutism.

 

[Larniavc]

Why do you say that?

Trump said he would lock her up about nine years ago so I’m sure it must be happening in about two weeks.

 

[rjs330]

I wonder if you would say the same thing if they were Jews who were critical of Israel and Zionism.

There are Jews who are critical of Israel. I would also be as critical of Israel or Judaism if they were involved across the globe with the same things that the Islamists are doing.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Adding context surrounding what took place in Dearborn so the member I was addressing might better understand the situation there isn't whataboutism.

Okay. Makes sense.

 

[rjs330]

Dearborn has a long history of "Christians" harassing the Muslim population. Frequent Qur'an burnings, terrorist attacks and threats, and even "Christian" missionaries showing up with a pig's head on a stake and calling Muslim children wicked, heathens, and dirtbags, among other things, during an Arab festival. So, while it was wrong for the mayor to tell someone they were not welcome in the city, it's understandable how that could happen when someone starts talking about a member of the community supporting terrorism. If you watch the video of the exchange, you will notice that it was a Christian member of the city council, Robert Abraham, that first interrupted Mr. Barham and told him that Osama Siblani didn't support violence and that they were not going to allow attacks on people in the community during the meeting.

Osama Siblani isn't a known terrorist, and the street in question wasn't renamed. There were honorary signs erected at a couple of street corners; that’s it. It was also Wayne County, and not the city of Dearborn, that approved the signs. Wayne County has less than a 20% Muslim population.



Here's the response from the man who was told to leave the city:

Dearborn resident told he wasn't welcome hopes to see something positive come out of exchange

Addressing the mayor's remarks that he was unwelcome in the city, Barham called Dearborn the 'most hospitable, kind city' he's ever been in, drawing from his experiences living in the diverse, majority-Arab American community and his global travels, including a year in Lebanon and visits to Israel and Palestinian territories.

He also disagreed that Christian people are at risk of facing oppression in the U.S., pushing back against narratives amplified by some conservative commentators who framed the incident as evidence of anti-Christian sentiment in Dearborn...

He said the mayor has 'done a terrific job in many ways', specifically praising Hammoud’s leadership on community initiatives like funding playgrounds, despite their disagreement. Barham added that he wants to encourage love for Muslim people, consistent with his missionary work...

He expressed no intention of leaving Dearborn, stating he hoped the controversy would lead to positive outcomes, such as greater religious freedom and understanding between Christians and Muslims.

Well I did watch the exchange and found it to be utterly incomprehensible. Like I said, if a white mayor had done that to a Muslim, I cant imagine the backlash he would have received for it.

Christians in Muslim countries have suffered FAR worse than any Muslim.in Dearborn has. Can you imagine what would have happened to one if they had burned a Quaran in some Muslim countries?

Now I certainly don't agree with anyone doing that, or threatening them or anything of rhe sort. Its wrong for anyone to do it.

I.just thi k it was wrong for the Mayor to treat that man in that way in his own town and country. I also give kudos to the man for not responding in kind.

 

[rambot]

.Trump learned his lesson last term, he is not being "nice" again.

Trump didnt think he'd win rhe first time so he didn't have time or the possibility of setting himself up in the same way that he could in rhe last 4 years.

He was never nice.

And that's why you like him.