The Lost House of Israel

[keras]

And Amos 9:14 and 15. says that Israel. was SAVED and no mention Christian Israel , what happened ??

dan p

The Hebrew word 'israel', literally means - 'an overcomer for God'.
Which is what we Christians are. Galatians 6:14-16, confirms this.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I don't watch talking heads give their opinions.
Your rude accusations count against you.

There are many Bible Prophesies which tell of the regathering of all the 12 tribes of Israel. We only know where the 2 tribes of Judah and Benjamin are today.
But Jesus came to save the lost tribes of Israel. He was successful and we Christians are the result. WE are His peoples and the Holy Land is our heritage. Isaiah 57:13b, Isaiah 49:22-23, Psalms 69:35-36, Romans 9:24-26

Not true AT ALL. What are you if not a talking head giving your opinions? At least Singer has some credibility! You need to get off your high horse and learn some things! See there you go again, using scripture OUT OF CONTEXT. YES there WILL be a regathering of the tribes. There are still Jews and some do not even know they are Jews (because of forced conversions or intermarriages)...Sephardic, Mizrahi and Ashkenazi. What are the Ethiopian Jews...Judah? Benyamin? Levi (you forgot that one)? Yemeni Jews? Iranian Jews? Syrian Jews? Italian Jews (Italkim)? There are Jews all over the world! Which tribes were at Shavuot after Yeshua rose?

The Lost Tribes of Israel: Who are their descendants today? | The Jerusalem Post

There is a group of people looking to uncover the truth behind the lost tribes in order to determine where they went and to integrate them back into the Jewish people.

www.jpost.com

 

[Dan Perez]

The Hebrew word 'israel', literally means - 'an overcomer for God'.
Which is what we Christians are. Galatians 6:14-16, confirms this.

And I read Gal 6:15 and what does. , BUT A NEW CREATION. , what does that mean ??

dan p

 

[keras]

Cleanse Your Holy Land and give strength to Your People:

Psalms 68:1-35 Let the Lord arise, let His enemies be scattered. Let those who hate Him be gone! Let the Lord’s enemies perish in His fiery judgement 1, like wax before a fire and as smoke is dispersed.
Lord: summon Your strength, use it now as You did for Your people long ago. Rebuke those wild beasts, those proud and arrogant sinners; all those who love violence and war 2. All power and strength belongs to the Lord, enthroned on high. Cleanse now Your holy Land and give strength to Your people, we pray.

The Lord says: I shall bring My enemies together into the place of slaughter, from wherever they are. I will smite them there, their blood will flow out so that you can bathe your feet in it and your dogs will lick it up. Psalms 63, Micah 4:11-12

When the Lord speaks out in mighty thunder 1, kings and their armies will flee in terror. When the Almighty scatters those evil peoples and clears the holy Land, snow will fall on Mt Zalman 3.

We sing the praises of our Saviour and Redeemer. He who rides on the clouds, He is our Father and the defender of His righteous people, but those who refuse to acknowledge Him will remain in the desert 4.

When the Lord saves His people, there will be thousands of vehicles for them 5, as He leads them to safety through the barren desert. The earth will tremble and rain will pour down to replenish the holy Land 6. There Your people will settle, for in Your goodness Lord, You provide for the poor and needy.

The procession of all Israel comes into view; into the Holy city. First the singers, then the musicians. The little tribe of Benjamin will lead, with Judah, Zebulon and Naphtali following, marching on their way the Zion’s holy mountain: on to the Temple in Jerusalem. Kings will bring gifts and envoys will come from far off nations to honour and praise Israel’s God. His Majesty and blessing is over the holy Land , the Lord enthroned in heaven will give strength to His people 7.
Praise be to God!
Ref: REB, CJB. Psalm 68 in a chronological order.

1/The Lord’s judgement by fire; an earth directed CME explosion of the sun: Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Revelation 6:12-17, 2 Peter 3:10

2/ The Islamic peoples who love war and death: Ezekiel 35:5-6, Proverbs 1:16

3/ Mt Zalman – near Shechem. [Nablus] This detail informs us that the Day of the Lord’s wrath will happen during a Northern winter. Judges 9:48, Matthew 24:20

4/ Then all of the Lord’s people are gathered, all of the faithful Christian peoples from every tribe of Israel from every race, nation and language, are then ‘passed under the rod of judgement’. Ezekiel 20:35-38…’those who revolt and rebel will not enter the Land’. Deuteronomy 32:36, Isaiah 35:1-10

5/ The Lord will provide transport! Isaiah 66:20, Psalms 107:1-32, Isaiah 60:1-9

6/ All of the holy Land will be regenerated and become fertile: Ezekiel 36:8-11, Isaiah 35:1-2, Isaiah 66:12, Joel 2:21-26, Amos 9:13-15

7/ Strength and comfort to His people: Isaiah 40:29-31, Jer. 31:21-26, Zech. 10:12

Note: that the Lord remains ‘enthroned in heaven’. The glorious Return comes later. The Lord's true Christian people, from every tribe, [of Israel] every nation, [of the world] every language, [ethnic group] will gather in Jerusalem. Revelation 7:9.

WE will build the Temple, Zechariah 6:15.

WE will elect leaders, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11.

WE will greet Jesus after all that is prophesied takes place, with the shout: Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!

 

[Dan Perez]

The Hebrew word 'israel', literally means - 'an overcomer for God'.
Which is what we Christians are. Galatians 6:14-16, confirms this.

Cleanse Your Holy Land and give strength to Your People:

Psalms 68:1-35 Let the Lord arise, let His enemies be scattered. Let those who hate Him be gone! Let the Lord’s enemies perish in His fiery judgement 1, like wax before a fire and as smoke is dispersed.
Lord: summon Your strength, use it now as You did for Your people long ago. Rebuke those wild beasts, those proud and arrogant sinners; all those who love violence and war 2. All power and strength belongs to the Lord, enthroned on high. Cleanse now Your holy Land and give strength to Your people, we pray.

The Lord says: I shall bring My enemies together into the place of slaughter, from wherever they are. I will smite them there, their blood will flow out so that you can bathe your feet in it and your dogs will lick it up. Psalms 63, Micah 4:11-12

When the Lord speaks out in mighty thunder 1, kings and their armies will flee in terror. When the Almighty scatters those evil peoples and clears the holy Land, snow will fall on Mt Zalman 3.

We sing the praises of our Saviour and Redeemer. He who rides on the clouds, He is our Father and the defender of His righteous people, but those who refuse to acknowledge Him will remain in the desert 4.

When the Lord saves His people, there will be thousands of vehicles for them 5, as He leads them to safety through the barren desert. The earth will tremble and rain will pour down to replenish the holy Land 6. There Your people will settle, for in Your goodness Lord, You provide for the poor and needy.

The procession of all Israel comes into view; into the Holy city. First the singers, then the musicians. The little tribe of Benjamin will lead, with Judah, Zebulon and Naphtali following, marching on their way the Zion’s holy mountain: on to the Temple in Jerusalem. Kings will bring gifts and envoys will come from far off nations to honour and praise Israel’s God. His Majesty and blessing is over the holy Land , the Lord enthroned in heaven will give strength to His people 7.
Praise be to God!
Ref: REB, CJB. Psalm 68 in a chronological order.

1/The Lord’s judgement by fire; an earth directed CME explosion of the sun: Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Revelation 6:12-17, 2 Peter 3:10

2/ The Islamic peoples who love war and death: Ezekiel 35:5-6, Proverbs 1:16

3/ Mt Zalman – near Shechem. [Nablus] This detail informs us that the Day of the Lord’s wrath will happen during a Northern winter. Judges 9:48, Matthew 24:20

4/ Then all of the Lord’s people are gathered, all of the faithful Christian peoples from every tribe of Israel from every race, nation and language, are then ‘passed under the rod of judgement’. Ezekiel 20:35-38…’those who revolt and rebel will not enter the Land’. Deuteronomy 32:36, Isaiah 35:1-10

5/ The Lord will provide transport! Isaiah 66:20, Psalms 107:1-32, Isaiah 60:1-9

6/ All of the holy Land will be regenerated and become fertile: Ezekiel 36:8-11, Isaiah 35:1-2, Isaiah 66:12, Joel 2:21-26, Amos 9:13-15

7/ Strength and comfort to His people: Isaiah 40:29-31, Jer. 31:21-26, Zech. 10:12

Note: that the Lord remains ‘enthroned in heaven’. The glorious Return comes later. The Lord's true Christian people, from every tribe, [of Israel] every nation, [of the world] every language, [ethnic group] will gather in Jerusalem. Revelation 7:9.

WE will build the Temple, Zechariah 6:15.

WE will elect leaders, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11.

WE will greet Jesus after all that is prophesied takes place, with the shout: Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!

And when. are going to answer OP # 103 JUST SAYS YES. or NO. if you can ??

dan p

 

[keras]

And I read Gal 6:15 and what does. , BUT A NEW CREATION. , what does that mean ??

dan p

It is rather obvious that when a person to becomes a Christian, they remain in their mortal bodies. But we have Gods Promise of Eternal life, in Spiritual bodies, which will be given to all whose names are found in the Book of Life, at the GWT Judgment.

Galatians 6:14-16 is proof that Christians are the true Israelites of God. Anyone disputing this fact, is contradicting the Bible.

 

[Semper-Fi]

And I read Gal 6:15 and what does. , BUT A NEW CREATION. , what does that mean ??

dan p

This is talking about becoming a new creation, a Son of God.
I see keras [tried to explain] this subject but not very good.

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible,
by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

-The word used here for "Being born again" is: G313

anagennao¯
an-ag-en-nah'-o
From G303 and G1080; to beget or (by extension) bear (again):
- beget, (bear) X again. Total KJV occurrences: 2

It means begettal, not birth, ask any mother there is a big difference.
It is a process that is patterned like after human reproduction.
People say they are born again but that is not quite accurate.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which according to his abundant mercy [hath begotten us] again
unto a lively hope [by the resurrection] of Jesus Christ from the dead,

#1 The Father
From impregnation—begettal on the part of the father.
A father sires/begets a child, God begets/gives you His Holy Spirit.

[begotten] when God’s divine Holy spirit-life is imparted to us,
we become heirs to his kingdom, now called a Son of God.
It is the unborn child of its father. You are now [a new creation].

The gift of the Holy Spirit, which is the earnest of our inheritance, until
the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

#2 The Mother
And having conceived on the part of the mother, the church.

The Church is called “Jerusalem above,” or “the heavenly Jerusalem”
Heb. 12:22-23, Galatians 4:26: “But Jerusalem which is above is free,
which is [the mother of us all].”

after one's repentance, faith and baptism, and receives the Holy Spirit,
the Spirit of God puts him into/ baptizes him into God’s Church.
“for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body …”

#3 The gestation period, our growth in God in this mortal life

There is a time element between begettal and birth, called gestation.
We develop and grow spiritually in our pre-birth state.

The human mother of the fetus serves the function of feeding her
unborn child with physical food so that it may develop and grow.

The spiritual mother the Church is commissioned to “feed the flock”
(iPet. 5:2) through the ministry which God has set in the Church.

“[f]or the perfecting of the saints … for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son
of God, unto a perfect man …” (Eph. 4:11-13).

The church also helps keep the child safe.

“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried
about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning
craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive”

#4
The birth into the Kingdom/family of God.

"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;..."

At the time of the resurrection, we in the Church the spiritual mother shall be
delivered from her, and born into and inherit the Kingdom of God, as a spirit being.

Most of my posts are unpopular, this subject would be no exception.
Telling fellow Christion's they are not yet "born again" is very unpopular.

 

[Dan Perez]

The Hebrew word 'israel', literally means - 'an overcomer for God'.
Which is what we Christians are. Galatians 6:14-16, confirms this.

And I LIKE Gal 6:14-17. and since you claim be to be a teacher of. PROPHECY. , would you please explain Gal 6:14-16. IF YOU CAN ??

Take your PICK. ??

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

Cleanse Your Holy Land and give strength to Your People:

Psalms 68:1-35 Let the Lord arise, let His enemies be scattered. Let those who hate Him be gone! Let the Lord’s enemies perish in His fiery judgement 1, like wax before a fire and as smoke is dispersed.
Lord: summon Your strength, use it now as You did for Your people long ago. Rebuke those wild beasts, those proud and arrogant sinners; all those who love violence and war 2. All power and strength belongs to the Lord, enthroned on high. Cleanse now Your holy Land and give strength to Your people, we pray.

The Lord says: I shall bring My enemies together into the place of slaughter, from wherever they are. I will smite them there, their blood will flow out so that you can bathe your feet in it and your dogs will lick it up. Psalms 63, Micah 4:11-12

When the Lord speaks out in mighty thunder 1, kings and their armies will flee in terror. When the Almighty scatters those evil peoples and clears the holy Land, snow will fall on Mt Zalman 3.

We sing the praises of our Saviour and Redeemer. He who rides on the clouds, He is our Father and the defender of His righteous people, but those who refuse to acknowledge Him will remain in the desert 4.

When the Lord saves His people, there will be thousands of vehicles for them 5, as He leads them to safety through the barren desert. The earth will tremble and rain will pour down to replenish the holy Land 6. There Your people will settle, for in Your goodness Lord, You provide for the poor and needy.

The procession of all Israel comes into view; into the Holy city. First the singers, then the musicians. The little tribe of Benjamin will lead, with Judah, Zebulon and Naphtali following, marching on their way the Zion’s holy mountain: on to the Temple in Jerusalem. Kings will bring gifts and envoys will come from far off nations to honour and praise Israel’s God. His Majesty and blessing is over the holy Land , the Lord enthroned in heaven will give strength to His people 7.
Praise be to God!
Ref: REB, CJB. Psalm 68 in a chronological order.

1/The Lord’s judgement by fire; an earth directed CME explosion of the sun: Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Revelation 6:12-17, 2 Peter 3:10

2/ The Islamic peoples who love war and death: Ezekiel 35:5-6, Proverbs 1:16

3/ Mt Zalman – near Shechem. [Nablus] This detail informs us that the Day of the Lord’s wrath will happen during a Northern winter. Judges 9:48, Matthew 24:20

4/ Then all of the Lord’s people are gathered, all of the faithful Christian peoples from every tribe of Israel from every race, nation and language, are then ‘passed under the rod of judgement’. Ezekiel 20:35-38…’those who revolt and rebel will not enter the Land’. Deuteronomy 32:36, Isaiah 35:1-10

5/ The Lord will provide transport! Isaiah 66:20, Psalms 107:1-32, Isaiah 60:1-9

6/ All of the holy Land will be regenerated and become fertile: Ezekiel 36:8-11, Isaiah 35:1-2, Isaiah 66:12, Joel 2:21-26, Amos 9:13-15

7/ Strength and comfort to His people: Isaiah 40:29-31, Jer. 31:21-26, Zech. 10:12

Note: that the Lord remains ‘enthroned in heaven’. The glorious Return comes later. The Lord's true Christian people, from every tribe, [of Israel] every nation, [of the world] every language, [ethnic group] will gather in Jerusalem. Revelation 7:9.

WE will build the Temple, Zechariah 6:15.

WE will elect leaders, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11.

WE will greet Jesus after all that is prophesied takes place, with the shout: Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!

And Gal 6:15. , says , For in Christ Jesus NEITHER circumcision , means JEWS , is of ANY FORCE. , NOR

UNCICUNCISION. , nor GENTILES , but a NEW CREATION pointing the BODY of Christ and I am not tying to be CAUSTIC !!

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

This is talking about becoming a new creation, a Son of God.
I see keras [tried to explain] this subject but not very good.

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible,
by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

-The word used here for "Being born again" is: G313

anagennao¯
an-ag-en-nah'-o
From G303 and G1080; to beget or (by extension) bear (again):
- beget, (bear) X again. Total KJV occurrences: 2

It means begettal, not birth, ask any mother there is a big difference.
It is a process that is patterned like after human reproduction.
People say they are born again but that is not quite accurate.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which according to his abundant mercy [hath begotten us] again
unto a lively hope [by the resurrection] of Jesus Christ from the dead,

#1 The Father
From impregnation—begettal on the part of the father.
A father sires/begets a child, God begets/gives you His Holy Spirit.

[begotten] when God’s divine Holy spirit-life is imparted to us,
we become heirs to his kingdom, now called a Son of God.
It is the unborn child of its father. You are now [a new creation].

The gift of the Holy Spirit, which is the earnest of our inheritance, until
the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

#2 The Mother
And having conceived on the part of the mother, the church.

The Church is called “Jerusalem above,” or “the heavenly Jerusalem”
Heb. 12:22-23, Galatians 4:26: “But Jerusalem which is above is free,
which is [the mother of us all].”

after one's repentance, faith and baptism, and receives the Holy Spirit,
the Spirit of God puts him into/ baptizes him into God’s Church.
“for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body …”

#3 The gestation period, our growth in God in this mortal life

There is a time element between begettal and birth, called gestation.
We develop and grow spiritually in our pre-birth state.

The human mother of the fetus serves the function of feeding her
unborn child with physical food so that it may develop and grow.

The spiritual mother the Church is commissioned to “feed the flock”
(iPet. 5:2) through the ministry which God has set in the Church.

“[f]or the perfecting of the saints … for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son
of God, unto a perfect man …” (Eph. 4:11-13).

The church also helps keep the child safe.

“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried
about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning
craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive”

#4
The birth into the Kingdom/family of God.

"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;..."

At the time of the resurrection, we in the Church the spiritual mother shall be
delivered from her, and born into and inherit the Kingdom of God, as a spirit being.

Most of my posts are unpopular, this subject would be no exception.
Telling fellow Christion's they are not yet "born again" is very unpopular.

And the term , BORN AGAIN in John 3:3 and John 3:5. be BORN of WATER and of Spirit is hard for. those that says it

means SALVATION. and. means that they. are saved and Rom 10:9 and 10 is nor salvation to them and I showed them what

what it does REALLY means and it is water off a duck and John and the 3 gospels are speaking to Israel

and Paul's 13 letters speak to salvation by GRACE !!

And EZE chapters 36 and 37 and 38 explains when and How Israel and Judah are BORN AGAIN !!

dan p

 

[keras]

The children of ethnic Israel are not the chosen people of God. Only the believers and followers of the promised Seed are the children of God. The children of the flesh are those who have denied Jesus Christ, following the wrong paths, the children of the promise are the only ones who have the Holy Spirit anointing in their lives and their birthright in God. Romans 9:8

Most Jews may have descent which comes from their lineage of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. But when they turned from their true inheritance and embraced the Babylonian Talmud, they lost their birthright in God.

Jesus came to redeem the lost sheep of the house of Israel, the Northern 10 tribes. But we know from the whole message of the New Testament, that salvation is open to people of every race, nation and language, who believe in Him. John 3:16

Luke 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for He hath visited and redeemed His people. Jesus came to bring redemption to the sons of Judah, but instead they cried out, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!" The Jews have suffered the consequence of this rejection ever since.

When Jesus spoke of Israel, it was always in the positive. When He spoke of the Jews, it was always in the negative. The separation that happened in King Rehoboam’s time still remains to this day. The great spiritual and physical rejoining of Christian Israel and Messianic Jewry, prophesied in Ezekiel 37, awaits fulfilment.

When Jesus walked the earth those who were His enemies were the religious Jews. There were three main sects of the Jewish religion: the Sadducees, the Pharisees and the Herodians:

The Sadducees were the keepers of the ancient laws. The name Sadducee means "righteous." They did not believe in the resurrection of the body, nor did they believe in retribution in a future life. The Jewish priests embraced the Sadducee's religion.

The name Pharisee means "separatist." The main tenets of this religion is that the soul will never perish and the wicked will be punished with eternal torment. In other words, they believe the lie the serpent spoke to Eve in the garden that "Ye shall not surely die." The scribes embraced the Pharisee's religion.

The Herodians were those who loved the Greek way of life and followed the dictates of Herod (secular government). They did not adhere to the Jewish law. Their only loyalties were to Rome.

These same three beliefs have infiltrated the church system today. The religious Sadducees today, no matter what name they go by, still want to keep the old law. They keep the Sabbath, observe the ritualistic holidays and dietary laws.

The religious Pharisees are those who are separatists, teaching the eternal lost soul of the wicked, believing they are the only righteous ones, and have made doctrines and creeds to live by. If their people go to any other church, they are reprimanded.

The religious Herodians are those who think mankind can bring about a utopian society by their own efforts and shun all teaching of righteousness with their "if it feels good do it" attitude, but still maintain their belief in a God. Call ‘him’ Gaia or ‘her’ Mother Earth, they all follow ancient paths of Satanic deceit.

Matthew 23:13-15 But woe unto you, scribes, Pharisees, all hypocrites! For ye shut up the Kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
This certainly describes the modern Jews who have closed up the Kingdom of God to their people. As Jesus stated they would not enter in themselves, and they hinder all those who want to go into the Kingdom realm.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

 

[Dan Perez]

This is talking about becoming a new creation, a Son of God.
I see keras [tried to explain] this subject but not very good.

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible,
by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

-The word used here for "Being born again" is: G313

anagennao¯
an-ag-en-nah'-o
From G303 and G1080; to beget or (by extension) bear (again):
- beget, (bear) X again. Total KJV occurrences: 2

It means begettal, not birth, ask any mother there is a big difference.
It is a process that is patterned like after human reproduction.
People say they are born again but that is not quite accurate.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which according to his abundant mercy [hath begotten us] again
unto a lively hope [by the resurrection] of Jesus Christ from the dead,

#1 The Father
From impregnation—begettal on the part of the father.
A father sires/begets a child, God begets/gives you His Holy Spirit.

[begotten] when God’s divine Holy spirit-life is imparted to us,
we become heirs to his kingdom, now called a Son of God.
It is the unborn child of its father. You are now [a new creation].

The gift of the Holy Spirit, which is the earnest of our inheritance, until
the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

#2 The Mother
And having conceived on the part of the mother, the church.

The Church is called “Jerusalem above,” or “the heavenly Jerusalem”
Heb. 12:22-23, Galatians 4:26: “But Jerusalem which is above is free,
which is [the mother of us all].”

after one's repentance, faith and baptism, and receives the Holy Spirit,
the Spirit of God puts him into/ baptizes him into God’s Church.
“for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body …”

#3 The gestation period, our growth in God in this mortal life

There is a time element between begettal and birth, called gestation.
We develop and grow spiritually in our pre-birth state.

The human mother of the fetus serves the function of feeding her
unborn child with physical food so that it may develop and grow.

The spiritual mother the Church is commissioned to “feed the flock”
(iPet. 5:2) through the ministry which God has set in the Church.

“[f]or the perfecting of the saints … for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son
of God, unto a perfect man …” (Eph. 4:11-13).

The church also helps keep the child safe.

“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried
about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning
craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive”

#4
The birth into the Kingdom/family of God.

"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;..."

At the time of the resurrection, we in the Church the spiritual mother shall be
delivered from her, and born into and inherit the Kingdom of God, as a spirit being.

Most of my posts are unpopular, this subject would be no exception.
Telling fellow Christion's they are not yet "born again" is very unpopular.

AND , BORN AGAIN // ia ANAGENNAGO. , is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , in. the PASSIVE VOICE , is a PARTICIPLE

is. a NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the Plural and I agree with 1. Peter 1 :23 !!

And what is BORN AGAIN . really means ??

And in. John 3:5. , EXCEPT a man. be BORN OF WATER , and of the SPIRIT. , he cannot enter into the KINDOM. OF GOD !!

So take one or the OTHER. BUT I say BOTH. are speaking. to Israel without a DOUBT. !! An have nothing to do

with the BODY of Christ and waiting for your reply and that CONTEXT is SUPREME. !!

dan p

 

[Semper-Fi]

For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but "Through Isaac shall your offspring be named”.
This means that it is not the ethnic children who are God’s people, but the children of the promise, who have faith in Him, who are counted as Abrahams descendants.

The seed of Abraham who received [the birthright inheritance] here are physical decedents.

God promised Abraham and Sarah a son/heir. The couple waited,
the days grew into weeks; weeks to months; months to years.

This couple now in old age, who lacked/lost faith in God to give an heir and tried
through the flesh. We cannot rush promises given from God in our own way.

Abraham made the serious mistake; he agreed to the adulterous relationship
with Hagar, Sarah’s [Egyptian handmaid/bondwoman] through the flesh.

Abraham still wanted Ishmael, Genesis 17:18, but God chose Isaac, his first
lawful son. Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac (Genesis 25:5)
Isaac was born by promise, and by a miracle from God.
The promise, as confirmed to Isaac, Genesis 26:3-5 all these countries....

"not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring"

Ishmael and Abraham’s other sons were rejected from the birthright.
but "Through Isaac shall your offspring be named”.
"But my covenant will I establish with Isaac …” .
-

Being the first born of Isaac, Esau would have inherited the birthright, but
he sold his birthright blessing for a bowl of soup, so it went to Jacob/Israel.
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Reuben, the firstborn son of Jacob and Leah, was entitled to the birthright,
that included a double portion of the inheritance and leadership of the family.
However, his actions led to the forfeiture of these privileges. The primary reason
for this loss is recorded in Genesis 35:22,

“For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel”

Reuben, a descended of Israel, was rejected from the birthright inheritance.
Joseph, the favorite son of the patriarch Jacob, that his envious brothers
sold into slavery in Egypt, receives the birthright inheritance.

Just as All Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Jews.
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1 Chronicles 5:2 (KJV) For Judah prevailed above his brethren,
and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's.

Both the birthright and the scepter promises were re-promised by
the Eternal to Abraham and Isaac and to Jacob before splitting.

The Septer promise [I have never heard you mention],
was separated from the birthright promise.

 

[Semper-Fi]

And what is BORN AGAIN . really means ??

One will certainly know when they are born again, they will be a spirit being.

 

[Semper-Fi]

But the 10 Northern tribes, that is, the House of Israel, have been lost to history.
Deuteronomy 32:26 says - I will cause the memory of them to cease among men.

Lets reread that [whole] verse, and the next verse after it in context.

"I would have said" .." Had I not feared.."

26 [I said, I would] scatter them into corners,[I would] make
the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

27[Were it not that] I feared the wrath of the enemy, Lest their
adversaries should behave themselves strangely, And lest they
should say, Our hand is high, And the LORD hath not done all this.

God did not make the memory of the House of Israel to cease among men, this
thread proves it. But He is hiding His eyes from them for [their sins of today].

 

[keras]

God did not make the memory of the House of Israel to cease among men, this
thread proves it. But He is hiding His eyes from them for [their sins of today].

Well, I know that the Lost tribes of Israel still exist and remain scattered among the nations. God knows who they are and we can too, by their Christian faith. 1 Peter 2:9-10, Revelation 5:9-10.
Our great Test of faith and trust in the Lord, will come in fire, 1 Peter 4:12, at the next Prophesied event, - the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.
The Lords winnowing fork, Matthew 3:12

BTW; your translation of Deuteronomy 32, makes the Lords intentions unclear. He didn't destroy the Israelites because the enemies would take the credit. But He did make the memory of them to be lost.

 

[Semper-Fi]

But He did make the memory of them to be lost.

There is a big difference being lost, and the memory of them to cease.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Well, I know that the Lost tribes of Israel still exist and remain scattered among the nations. God knows who they are and we can too, by their Christian faith.

I do to, So the memory of them did not cease among men.

Just have to just look at the first words in verses
[I said, I would]...
[Were it not that]....

He said he would , but He did not

 

[Dan Perez]

Well, I know that the Lost tribes of Israel still exist and remain scattered among the nations. God knows who they are and we can too, by their Christian faith. 1 Peter 2:9-10, Revelation 5:9-10.
Our great Test of faith and trust in the Lord, will come in fire, 1 Peter 4:12, at the next Prophesied event, - the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.
The Lords winnowing fork, Matthew 3:12

BTW; your translation of Deuteronomy 32, makes the Lords intentions unclear. He didn't destroy the Israelites because the enemies would take the credit. But He did make the memory of them to be lost.

And 1 Peter 2:9. say that we are A PRIESTHOOD but Paul we are the BODY of Christ. and Peter is one of 12 apostles

where Paul is the apostle for the BODY of Christ. ??

And that verse that we ARE A HOLY NATION. and seem that you. wrote the wrong verse. !!

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

One will certainly know when they are born again, they will be a spirit being.

And do you have a verse that when. being BORN AGAIN. that they are spirit. BEINGS??

First. time I have seen that written. ??

dan p