Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

[Belk]

That is not even the primary concern. The biggest being that she is a sitting member of congress and her primary loyalties are to Somalia.

Perhaps we should form a house committee to investigate people and ensure they support America in the way you approve of?

 

[BCP1928]

It does seem strange to accuse Omar of disloyalty over the port deal, since she and the Adminstration seem to be on Somalia's side about the issue.

 

[rjs330]

Your source, Religionofpeace (dot) com, is an anti-Islamic propaganda website. It is not not a reliable source for information about the teachings of Islam. Many of the claims made on that site are nonsense. Taqiyya is simply an invention of anti-Islamic propagandist in an effort to discredit Muslims.

The word taqiyya isn't found anywhere in the Qur'an, but here is the definition:

Takiya (taqiyyah, taqiyya); “The principle of dissimulation of one’s religious beliefs in order to avoid persecution or imminent harm, where no useful purpose would be served by publicly affirming them.”

Below is the ONLY verse found in the Qur'an that mentions lying as being acceptable.

"As for anyone who denies God after having once attained to faith - and this, to be sure, does not apply to one who does it under duress, the while his heart remains true to his faith, but only, to him who willingly opens up his heart to a denial of the truth upon all such falls God's condemnation, and tremendous suffering awaits them" (Qur'an 16:106)

The following hadiths make it clear that lying is forbidden in Islam:

Verily, truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man may speak the truth until he is recorded with Allah as truthful. Verily, lying leads to wickedness and wickedness leads to the Hellfire. A man may tell lies until he is recorded with Allah as a liar. (Sahih al-Bukhari 5743, Sahih Muslim 2607)

"Avoid falsehood, for falsehood leads to wickedness, and wickedness to Hell; and if a man continues to speak falsehood and makes falsehood his object, he will be recorded in God's presence as a great liar. And adhere to the truth, for truth leads to good deeds, and good deeds lead to Paradise. If a man continues to speak the truth and makes truth his object, he will be recorded in God's presence as eminently truthful." (Sunan Abu Dawood vol. 3, no. 4971)

Aisha reported: There was no behavior more hateful to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, than dishonesty. A man would tell a lie when speaking in the presence of the Prophet and he would not be satisfied until he knew that he had repented. (Sunan al-Tirmidhi¯)

The following hadith says it is one of the greatest of sins.

"Beware I inform you regarding the greatest of the mortal sins: Associating anything with Allah, disobeying parents and lying!" (Wasaelush Shia)

According to the teachings of Islam, a Muslim is only permitted to lie about one’s religious beliefs in order to avoid persecution, imminent harm or death. In all other cases lying is forbidden and will lead to Hell.

There are exceptions where a Muslim can tell a minor lie to keep peace and harmony among others, an example of this would be like if a wife asks her husband if a certain dress makes her look fat, and he answers "no" even when it's obvious that it does. Flat out lying and deceit is not acceptable though.

O see, telling the truth is now anti-Islamic propaganda. How convenient. In the website it provides where the religion says its okay to lie to infidels. Im not going to go through it. The website provides the information.

 

[rjs330]

The same thing people mean when they say they stand with Israel or Ukraine.

Thats not what she said. She said she was there to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the system. Man if Trump ir Vance said he was there to protect the interests of Russia from inside the system you guys on the left would go nuts about them being a Russian asset.

Not its not the same thing as they stand with Israel.

 

[rjs330]

Is a Congressman who supports Israel because of his and/or his constituents' faith declaring his loyalty to the Israeli government?

I know good and well people who are calling Isreal bad in one form or another would do the exact same thing we are doing with Omar if they said the same thing as her. If some Corgressman said they were in congress to protect the interests of Israel from inside the system you'd all have a serious problem. And based upon what youve all done to Trump you'd accuse them of being an Isreali asset.

I'm done with this conversation.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Thats not what she said. She said she was there to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the system. Man if Trump ir Vance said he was there to protect the interests of Russia from inside the system you guys on the left would go nuts about them being a Russian asset.

Not its not the same thing as they stand with Israel.

The power and influence of the President and Vice President are not comparable to one single member of Congress especially not in regards to foreign policy.

And granting they did say something like that, what could anyone even do about it besides complain to the internet like we’re doing now? It’s not like either Trump or Vance would be removed from office over saying such a thing.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I know good and well people who are calling Isreal bad in one form or another would do the exact same thing we are doing with Omar if they said the same thing as her. If some Corgressman said they were in congress to protect the interests of Israel from inside the system you'd all have a serious problem. And based upon what youve all done to Trump you'd accuse them of being an Isreali asset.

I'm done with this conversation.

They might not say out outright but that’s exactly what a majority of our Congress is doing by standing by Israel no matter what. Why do you think their prime minister has been invited and spoken directly to our congress many times before, pushing specifically for support for his government? How many times has the Somali president spoken to our congress directly?

I can see why you don’t want to continue with this conversation.

 

[wing2000]

Donald Trump doesn't care about race and has women working for him that are not of European descent and they actually love working for him.

Donald Trump is full of opinions about people he disagrees with or who disagree with him and he isn't shy about giving his opinion.

Welcome to equality, it's not like those 4 women don't dish out worse than they get.

You can't turn around and cry about. If they showed respect to others maybe they would get respect in return.

The most loyal Trump official is a black woman

Meet Lynne Patton.

www.motherjones.com

"The Most Loyal Trump Official Is Actually a Black Woman"

Women who are loyal to Trump have no issue. However, if a woman stands up to him.....

 

[Bradskii]

Gee, I dont remember ever claiming that Omar pledged to Somalia over the US.

You said:

...her primary loyalties are to Somalia.

Do you not actually understand what 'primary' means?

 

[JosephZ]

O see, telling the truth is now anti-Islamic propaganda. How convenient. In the website it provides where the religion says its okay to lie to infidels. Im not going to go through it. The website provides the information.

It's a garbage site. Common sense should tell you that a website that intentionally mocks Islam by calling itself "The Religion of Peace," isn't going to be truthful about what that religion teaches.

 

[rjs330]

It's a garbage site.

Says you. I find it very helpful in understanding rhe problems with Islam. Especially since Islam is directly responsible for SO MUCH terrorism, slavery and death in the modern world.

 

[MotoToTheMax]

Says you. I find it very helpful in understanding rhe problems with Islam. Especially since Islam is directly responsible for SO MUCH terrorism, slavery and death in the modern world.

Oh boy, you'll love this site then. I find it very helpful in understanding the problems with Christianity. Especially since Christianity is directly responsible for SO MUCH terrorism, slavery, and death in the modern world.

 

[rjs330]

Oh boy, you'll love this site then. I find it very helpful in understanding the problems with Christianity. Especially since Christianity is directly responsible for SO MUCH terrorism, slavery, and death in the modern world.

Lol. Nice try. We all know its Islam.

ISIS, world's deadliest terror group, responsible for 1,805 deaths last year

At least 14 of the top 20 terrorists are all Islamists. White supremacists are others, and they dont proclaim to be following Christian tenants.

Of the top 10 prevalence rates for slavery today the vast majority of them are Islamic countries.

 

[MotoToTheMax]

Lol. Nice try. We all know its Islam.

ISIS, world's deadliest terror group, responsible for 1,805 deaths last year

At least 14 of the top 20 terrorists are all Islamists. White supremacists are others, and they dont proclaim to be following Christian tenants.

Of the top 10 prevalence rates for slavery today the vast majority of them are Islamic countries.

Islam is certainly a problem as well. Never said otherwise. If thereligionofpeace.com is a good source to learn from, then I'm just giving you a great parallel site to do further information gathering from.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

You said:

Do you not actually understand what 'primary' means?

Yes. Do you not actually understand what "pledge" means?

 

[Bradskii]

Yes. Do you not actually understand what "pledge" means?

Yeah. You said Omar didn't pledge allegiance with Somalia over the US. We all know that. Except that you did say that: '...her primary loyalties are to Somalia'.

You have completely contradicted yourself. And you have claimed that she said something that she clearly hasn't. Perhaps you can show otherwise or you can correct your post.

 

[JosephZ]

Says you.

And others.

Overall, we rate The Religion of Peace as Questionable for having an extreme right-wing bias, promotion of conspiracy/propaganda, lack of transparency, and anti-Islam tendencies.

Reasoning: Propaganda, Conspiracy, Lack of Transparency, Anti-Islam
Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

The Religion of Peace - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

When I asked AI if religionofpeace.com is a credible source, I got the following answer:

AI Overview

The website TheReligionofPeace.com lacks credibility due to its strong anti-Islamic bias, use of polemic and propaganda, and presentation of cherry-picked and misrepresented information. It is widely criticized by Muslim groups, academic sources, and religious dialogue websites for its dishonesty and inaccuracies.

Anti-Islamic bias and agenda

The website is recognized as a counter-Islam and anti-Islamic propaganda site. Its name itself is a sarcastic and polemical take on the phrase often used to describe Islam.

The site acts as a clearinghouse for arguments that depict Islam as inherently violent, with the express purpose of belittling and dismissing the faith.



I've already shown you how the site was incorrect in its explanation of taqiyya and lying in Islam. Its annual "List of Killing in the Name of Islam" also contains false or misleading information. Many entries on the list either can't be verified, aren't related to religion, or never happened at all. Since I'm very familiar with events in the southern Philippines, I will show some examples of this from that country.

The religionofpeace site claims: "These are not incidents of ordinary crime involving perpetrators who happen to be Muslim. This is deadly violence that is reasonably determined to have been committed out of religious duty or sanction - as interpreted by the terrorist. Islam needs to be a factor, but not necessarily the only one."


2025.06.15 Philippines Zamboanga del Sur 2 killed Muslim terrorists are suspected in the shooting deaths of two Christians, a mother and daughter.

Local reporting doesn't identify the suspects.

2 die, 1 hurt in Zamboanga del Sur gun attack

A mother and her daughter were shot to death while on their way to church on Sunday in Barangay Kagawasan, Dimataling town, Zamboanga del Sur province.

The still unidentified gunmen fled toward the Tabina road, Arañas said.


2024.11.14 Philippines Mindanao 1 killed A female water employee is murdered by Bangsamoro Islamists.

Local reporting says the suspect is a hired killer. There's no mention of religion being a factor.

Female engineer in BARMM public works ministry shot dead

A suspected hired killer shot dead a female engineer in the Bangsamoro public works ministry while in a roadside eatery along a highway in Barangay Tamontaka in Datu Odin Sinsuat, Maguindanao del Norte on Thursday, November 14.

Engineer Darlene Pacete was with companions inside the establishment when a man approached, pulled out a pistol from his bag, shot her repeatedly and ran away.


024.05.26 Philippines Tantangan 4 killed Muslim terrorists are suspected of machine-gunning four farmers drinking alcohol.

Local reporting says suspects are unknown.

4 farmers killed in South Cotabato gun attack

Four farmers who were drinking in Barangay Dumadalig in Tantangan, South Cotabato were killed, while another was wounded in an attack by men armed with M16 assault rifles at almost Sunday midnight.

The gunmen hurriedly escaped, according to witnesses.


2023.11.23 Philippines Barangay Kudarangan 2 killed Moro Islamists assassinate a secular politician and guard.

Local reporting says this was related to a long-standing feud.

Village councilman, pal slain in North Cotabato gun attack

A village councilman and a watchman were killed when they were attacked in what police believed was triggered by a long-standing clan war in the town of Midsayap in North Cotabato at 1 a.m. Thursday.

Calinga said the families of Singh, a member of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), and that of a certain Sukarno Madidis, also an MNLF member, have been locked in a long-standing “rido” (family feud).


2023.10.10 Philippines Maguindanao 1 killed 1 injured Bangsamoro Islamists are suspected in the assassination of a foreign national.

The killer is unknown.

Saudi embassy in Manila is working to repatriate deceased citizen’s body

The embassy received with great sadness and sorrow the news of the killing of a Saudi citizen and the injury of his wife, at the hands of an unknown person who opened fire on them while the citizen was driving his vehicle along with his wife on a public road in Shariff Aguak in the southern Maguindanao del Sur province.


2022.03.17 Philippines Sitio Tenorio 1 killed A man is shot off his motorcycle by Moro Islamists.
2022.03.16 Philippines Datu Odin Sinsuat 2 killed Two civilians are gunned down by suspected Moro Islamists.

Another feud.

Maguindanao gun attacks claim 4 lives, hurt 3 others

Four persons were killed while three others were wounded in separate gun attacks in Maguindanao in what police believed were due to “rido” or family feud, a police official said Thursday.

Capt. Fayed Canda, the Maguindanao police spokesperson, said most of the shooting incidents--five in Datu Odin Sinsuat town and one in Datu Saudi Ampatuan municipality--were motivated by clan war.

“The latest victim was a 51-year-old man who was attacked in Sitio Tenorio, Barangay Awang, Datu Odin Sinsuat, Maguindanao at 9 a.m. Thursday,” Canda said.


2021.01.27 Philippines Tulunan 2 killed 6 injured Islamists plant a bomb at a bus station, killing two patrons

A local report says 1 person was killed and 3 injured. Religionofpeace doubled the numbers. Also, extortion, not religion, was the motive behind the bombing.

Extortion group behind Tulunan bombing: SITG

The police’s Special Investigation Task Group (SITG) Sibsib has identified the Al Khobar extortion group as responsible for the Jan. 27 bombing incident here that killed one and injured three others.

Napat said “extortion” on the bus company was the primary motive in the bombing that killed fruit vendor Gina Paunon, 53.


All of the following are false claims made by ISIS, but religionofpeace included these events in their list anyway.


2023.09.19 Philippines Lanao del Norte 4 killed Four Christian farmers are brutally shot in the head by apparent ISIS.

Never happened.

2023.07.13 Philippines Maguindanao 3 killed 3 injured Several locals lose their lives to armed Islamic extremists.

Never happened.

2023.02.10 Philippines Maguing 4 killed 3 injured Four people are killed in an ambush by elements of the Moro Islamic Front.

Never happened.

2022.05.25 Philippines Bindatin 6 killed 10 injured Islamic extremists ambush a security patrol, killing six members.

Never happened.

2022.05.25 Philippines Maguindanao 6 killed 10 injured The ISEAP group claims the killing of six soldiers in a recent ambush.

Never happened.

2021.08.21 Philippines Lindongan 3 killed 3 injured Mujahideen claim the killing of three local soldiers.

Never happened.


If religionofpeace has this many errors in its reporting from just one country over a short period of time, just imagine how many there are in total on that site. Like I said, it's garbage.

I find it very helpful in understanding rhe problems with Islam.

Despite anything it may claim, that site was created to intentionally mislead people and to create a fear of Muslims and Islam.

Religionofpeace even uses an extremist interpretation of the Qur'an throughout it's site and even recommends people use this translation over others.

"We recommend the Noble Quran, a recent translation by Islamic scholars, but one that is generally faithful to the Arabic."

Below are a few articles where the Noble Qur'an is discussed:

QUR’AN: Playing into the Hands of the Extremists? (Hilali-Khan Qur’an Translation)

Muslim Extremism Found in Problematic Quran Translation

Hilali-Khan Qur’an Translation

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Yeah. You said Omar didn't pledge allegiance with Somalia over the US. We all know that. Except that you did say that: '...her primary loyalties are to Somalia'.

You have completely contradicted yourself. And you have claimed that she said something that she clearly hasn't. Perhaps you can show otherwise or you can correct your post.

I dont see a contradiction. A dog's primary loyalties can be to its owner, but did the dog have to make a pledge for it to demonstrate loyalty? Or do you just want to continue beating up that strawman of yours?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

And others.

Overall, we rate The Religion of Peace as Questionable for having an extreme right-wing bias, promotion of conspiracy/propaganda, lack of transparency, and anti-Islam tendencies.

Reasoning: Propaganda, Conspiracy, Lack of Transparency, Anti-Islam
Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

The Religion of Peace - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

When I asked AI if religionofpeace.com is a credible source, I got the following answer:

AI Overview

The website TheReligionofPeace.com lacks credibility due to its strong anti-Islamic bias, use of polemic and propaganda, and presentation of cherry-picked and misrepresented information. It is widely criticized by Muslim groups, academic sources, and religious dialogue websites for its dishonesty and inaccuracies.

Anti-Islamic bias and agenda

The website is recognized as a counter-Islam and anti-Islamic propaganda site. Its name itself is a sarcastic and polemical take on the phrase often used to describe Islam.

The site acts as a clearinghouse for arguments that depict Islam as inherently violent, with the express purpose of belittling and dismissing the faith.



I've already shown you how the site was incorrect in its explanation of taqiyya and lying in Islam. Its annual "List of Killing in the Name of Islam" also contains false or misleading information. Many entries on the list either can't be verified, aren't related to religion, or never happened at all. Since I'm very familiar with events in the southern Philippines, I will show some examples of this from that country.

The religionofpeace site claims: "These are not incidents of ordinary crime involving perpetrators who happen to be Muslim. This is deadly violence that is reasonably determined to have been committed out of religious duty or sanction - as interpreted by the terrorist. Islam needs to be a factor, but not necessarily the only one."


2025.06.15 Philippines Zamboanga del Sur 2 killed Muslim terrorists are suspected in the shooting deaths of two Christians, a mother and daughter.

Local reporting doesn't identify the suspects.

2 die, 1 hurt in Zamboanga del Sur gun attack

A mother and her daughter were shot to death while on their way to church on Sunday in Barangay Kagawasan, Dimataling town, Zamboanga del Sur province.

The still unidentified gunmen fled toward the Tabina road, Arañas said.


2024.11.14 Philippines Mindanao 1 killed A female water employee is murdered by Bangsamoro Islamists.

Local reporting says the suspect is a hired killer. There's no mention of religion being a factor.

Female engineer in BARMM public works ministry shot dead

A suspected hired killer shot dead a female engineer in the Bangsamoro public works ministry while in a roadside eatery along a highway in Barangay Tamontaka in Datu Odin Sinsuat, Maguindanao del Norte on Thursday, November 14.

Engineer Darlene Pacete was with companions inside the establishment when a man approached, pulled out a pistol from his bag, shot her repeatedly and ran away.


024.05.26 Philippines Tantangan 4 killed Muslim terrorists are suspected of machine-gunning four farmers drinking alcohol.

Local reporting says suspects are unknown.

4 farmers killed in South Cotabato gun attack

Four farmers who were drinking in Barangay Dumadalig in Tantangan, South Cotabato were killed, while another was wounded in an attack by men armed with M16 assault rifles at almost Sunday midnight.

The gunmen hurriedly escaped, according to witnesses.


2023.11.23 Philippines Barangay Kudarangan 2 killed Moro Islamists assassinate a secular politician and guard.

Local reporting says this was related to a long-standing feud.

Village councilman, pal slain in North Cotabato gun attack

A village councilman and a watchman were killed when they were attacked in what police believed was triggered by a long-standing clan war in the town of Midsayap in North Cotabato at 1 a.m. Thursday.

Calinga said the families of Singh, a member of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), and that of a certain Sukarno Madidis, also an MNLF member, have been locked in a long-standing “rido” (family feud).


2023.10.10 Philippines Maguindanao 1 killed 1 injured Bangsamoro Islamists are suspected in the assassination of a foreign national.

The killer is unknown.

Saudi embassy in Manila is working to repatriate deceased citizen’s body

The embassy received with great sadness and sorrow the news of the killing of a Saudi citizen and the injury of his wife, at the hands of an unknown person who opened fire on them while the citizen was driving his vehicle along with his wife on a public road in Shariff Aguak in the southern Maguindanao del Sur province.


2022.03.17 Philippines Sitio Tenorio 1 killed A man is shot off his motorcycle by Moro Islamists.
2022.03.16 Philippines Datu Odin Sinsuat 2 killed Two civilians are gunned down by suspected Moro Islamists.

Another feud.

Maguindanao gun attacks claim 4 lives, hurt 3 others

Four persons were killed while three others were wounded in separate gun attacks in Maguindanao in what police believed were due to “rido” or family feud, a police official said Thursday.

Capt. Fayed Canda, the Maguindanao police spokesperson, said most of the shooting incidents--five in Datu Odin Sinsuat town and one in Datu Saudi Ampatuan municipality--were motivated by clan war.

“The latest victim was a 51-year-old man who was attacked in Sitio Tenorio, Barangay Awang, Datu Odin Sinsuat, Maguindanao at 9 a.m. Thursday,” Canda said.


2021.01.27 Philippines Tulunan 2 killed 6 injured Islamists plant a bomb at a bus station, killing two patrons

A local report says 1 person was killed and 3 injured. Religionofpeace doubled the numbers. Also, extortion, not religion, was the motive behind the bombing.

Extortion group behind Tulunan bombing: SITG

The police’s Special Investigation Task Group (SITG) Sibsib has identified the Al Khobar extortion group as responsible for the Jan. 27 bombing incident here that killed one and injured three others.

Napat said “extortion” on the bus company was the primary motive in the bombing that killed fruit vendor Gina Paunon, 53.


All of the following are false claims made by ISIS, but religionofpeace included these events in their list anyway.


2023.09.19 Philippines Lanao del Norte 4 killed Four Christian farmers are brutally shot in the head by apparent ISIS.

Never happened.

2023.07.13 Philippines Maguindanao 3 killed 3 injured Several locals lose their lives to armed Islamic extremists.

Never happened.

2023.02.10 Philippines Maguing 4 killed 3 injured Four people are killed in an ambush by elements of the Moro Islamic Front.

Never happened.

2022.05.25 Philippines Bindatin 6 killed 10 injured Islamic extremists ambush a security patrol, killing six members.

Never happened.

2022.05.25 Philippines Maguindanao 6 killed 10 injured The ISEAP group claims the killing of six soldiers in a recent ambush.

Never happened.

2021.08.21 Philippines Lindongan 3 killed 3 injured Mujahideen claim the killing of three local soldiers.

Never happened.


If religionofpeace has this many errors in its reporting from just one country over a short period of time, just imagine how many there are in total on that site. Like I said, it's garbage.


Despite anything it may claim, that site was created to intentionally mislead people and to create a fear of Muslims and Islam.

Religionofpeace even uses an extremist interpretation of the Qur'an throughout it's site and even recommends people use this translation over others.

"We recommend the Noble Quran, a recent translation by Islamic scholars, but one that is generally faithful to the Arabic."

Below are a few articles where the Noble Qur'an is discussed:

QUR’AN: Playing into the Hands of the Extremists? (Hilali-Khan Qur’an Translation)

Muslim Extremism Found in Problematic Quran Translation

Hilali-Khan Qur’an Translation

What is the credibility and bias rating of MediaBias FactCheck?

From the horse's mouth.

What Is Taqiyyah? - Islam Question & Answer

islamqa.info

So basically, Islam has different denominations and sects. Not all believe lying and deceit is morally wrong. Some actually encourage it.

 

[JosephZ]

From the horse's mouth.

What Is Taqiyyah? - Islam Question & Answer

islamqa.info

So basically, Islam has different denominations and sects. Not all believe lying and deceit is morally wrong. Some actually encourage it.

When getting information from IslamQA, it's important to know that the material on that site is produced by Muhammad Al-Munajjid. He is a Salafi cleric who applies the teachings from the Salafi school of thought and Hanbali jurisprudence, both of which take a literal and strict approach to Islam, to answer questions on his website. Since his opinions and rulings come from a Salafi perspective/interpretation (a minority in Islam) and from Hanabali (an even smaller minority), much of what is found on his site would be an extremist interpretation of Islam and not accepted as being representative of Islam by more than 95% of the world's Muslims.