The Schumer Shutdown

[Always in His Presence]

Instead of a simple bipartisan CR. The Democrats want a 1.7 trillion dollar spending increase.

 

[Tuur]

Now? Not a peep out of the media or Democrats because they are rhe ones shutting it down.

A good bit of pearl clutching in the media leading up to it and in the news this morning. The reporting has been as vapid as usual. Waiting for all the "It's MAGA's fault!" comments here this morning.

Let's see if there's a grand production made out of this one. The one back when Obama was president saw automated web sites shut down.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

When 60 votes are needed, then the 53 GOP Senators cannot do it by themselves.

Especially when Rand Paul betrayed his President, Party, and County for siding with the Democrats and voted no. If he won't stand for what's right, he needs to change his party affiliation and caucus with AOC and the Squad.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Are you ignoring the facts that Senator Chuck Schumer and the Democratic Party Senators are refusing to pass the bill to fund the government? When 60 votes are needed, then the 53 GOP Senators cannot do it by themselves.

And why? Because many people will not be able to afford insurance. Like me. Here is the breakdown when I decided to start my own business:
Insurance premiums:
*2014-2016 $ 485.00 per month - with no ACA
*2017-2019 $ 945.00- then up again to $1250 per month- with no ACA
*2020- 2025 $365.00- $189.00 per month with ACA, (premium fluctuates with income levels. ) with no plan changes.

I thank God that this year I am on Medicare because I would be without insurance if the GOP gets their way.

Be blessed.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Where does the buck stop?

The Commander in Chief owns this shutdown. The Republican majority will do whatever he says.

 

[BCP1928]

Are you ignoring the facts that Senator Chuck Schumer and the Democratic Party Senators are refusing to pass the bill to fund the government? When 60 votes are needed, then the 53 GOP Senators cannot do it by themselves.

Right. They need at least some Democrats to agree with what they are doing. That's the point.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Instead of a simple bipartisan CR. The Democrats want a 1.7 trillion dollar spending increase.

So you talk and meet somewhere in the middle.

That’s how negotiations are supposed to work.

 

[durangodawood]

Instead of a simple bipartisan CR. The Democrats want a 1.7 trillion dollar spending increase.

I thought the Ds just want current ACA spending to remain at current levels....?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

A good bit of pearl clutching in the media leading up to it and in the news this morning. The reporting has been as vapid as usual. Waiting for all the "It's MAGA's fault!" comments here this morning.

Remind me again who won the House, Senate, White House and has a majority control of the SCOTUS?

Let's see if there's a grand production made out of this one. The one back when Obama was president saw automated web sites shut down.

How about the shutdown Trump “was proud to take credit for” when he was last president?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I thought the Ds just want current ACA spending to remain at current levels....?

Well yeah, but the Rs can call it an "increase" because that spending comes off the books at the end of the year.

 

[mark46]

Tough. Does no one know how to work out a deal both sides can agree upon?

Nope.

The Republicans want a shutdown so that they can restructure departments and cut jobs, much easier to do during a shutdown. Many of the non-essential workers won't be coming back.

 

[Fantine]

First, the government has had years to correct the imbalance of funding. They have raised the debt level 78 times since 1960.
So everyone's at fault, it is not Schumer and the 44 democrats in the Senate. If there is a moral high ground the one that comes the closest is the sole conservative Sen. Rand Paul. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/25/rand-paul-debt-ceiling-hike-00369740

I think the rest of the GOP too deserve some blame because they have not addressed the 44 democratic senators concerns. They represent about half of America and nearly every large city. Trump's problem is that he extended the tax cuts, increased spending in the military and homeland security and wants the cuts to fall on the poor who already are faced with higher inflation due to the tariffs.

I have a big problem too with why the government pays the back salaries of all Federal Employees when they shut the government down. Like someone in the private sector, they need to face the realities and file for unemployment, not get backpay for the days they do not work. The 2018-2019 shutdown - "According to the Congressional Budget Office, the shutdown cost the government $3 billion in back pay for furloughed workers, plus $2 billion in lost tax revenues due to reduced tax evasion compliance activities by the Internal Revenue Service, and a smaller amount of lost fees such as for visits to national parks, for a total of about $5 billion.

I wouldn't worry about Trump giving backpay to furloughed workers. They aren't important enough to him.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Nope.

The Republicans want a shutdown so that they can restructure departments and cut jobs, much easier to do during a shutdown. Many of the non-essential workers won't be coming back.

Indeed. The republicans who had no problem with the thousand upon thousands of jobs being cut from the federal workforce by DOGE and the president, taking a metaphorical chainsaw to the government, now want to shed their crocodile tears over all the people that will be affected by this shutdown.

 

[Always in His Presence]

So you talk and meet somewhere in the middle.

That’s how negotiations are supposed to work.

You should let them know - Schumer is the one who publicly stated he wouldn't budge.

I thought the Ds just want current ACA spending to remain at current levels....?

No - they want Medicare for illegals reestablished

I wouldn't worry about Trump giving backpay to furloughed workers. They aren't important enough to him.

He wouldn't have to worry about back pay if Schumer didn't try to hold the country hostage and really not care about those workers, woman and children and the elderly not getting the funds they need.

It is more important to him to continue blocking everything possible. Even a cr that reflected ones he voted for three times when Biden was in office -

 

[essentialsaltes]

You should let them know - Schumer is the one who publicly stated he wouldn't budge.

Schumer said he wouldn't sign the Republican plan. He was open to negotiation. Trump canceled one negotiating meeting and the last minute one didn't have much hope. But now Trump is showing signs of negotiating on healthare.

No deal at White House shutdown summit, but Trump broaches health care talks​

Trump administration officials for the first time opened the door to possible bipartisan negotiations over an extension of soon-to-expire health insurance subsidies — a key Democratic demand.

OK, now maybe we can get somewhere.

No - they want Medicare for illegals reestablished

It was never established, so it can't be reestablished.

AI Overview

Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for federal Medicare coverage

 

[mark46]

Indeed. The republicans who had no problem with the thousand upon thousands of jobs being cut from the federal workforce by DOGE and the president, taking a metaphorical chainsaw to the government, now want to shed their crocodile tears over all the people that will be affected by this shutdown.

Bill Clinton cut almost 400K government jobs.

The real issue is NOT whether the government should cut another 200K jobs. The issue is the method of deciding which jobs are cut. The real issue is access to health care.

Democrats want more federal jobs, Republicans want fewer. The American people do not trust the federal government to do the right thing, or to be efficient in the roles that they take on for themselves.

Jobs cuts after they are deemed to be non-essential for a month or two can are likely to be accepted by the courts.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

You should let them know - Schumer is the one who publicly stated he wouldn't budge.

Sure I’ll tell him when I see him lol.

Good on Schumer for finding a spine though. Remember the president tell us all to “never surrender, fight fight fight!”? I think Chuck is just taking his encouraging words to heart.

No - they want Medicare for illegals reestablished

There is no Medicare for illegals but besides that… I thought they were all being deported, so what does it matter?

He wouldn't have to worry about back pay if Schumer didn't try to hold the country hostage and really not care about those workers, woman and children and the elderly not getting the funds they need.

Oh like how Trump didn’t care until he got funding for his wall that never happened. I guess it’s only ok for the GOP to use a shutdown as a bargaining chip.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Schumer said he wouldn't sign the Republican plan. He was open to negotiation. Trump canceled one negotiating meeting and the last minute one didn't have much hope. But now Trump is showing signs of negotiating on healthare.

What
Schumer said about shutting down the government.

 

[Always in His Presence]

They want to claw back the funding for rural hospitals:

 

[RocksInMyHead]

They want to claw back the funding for rural hospitals:

Only in the sense that they want to restore the original funding streams whose termination forced the creation of the support fund.